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Robert Gates: David Petraeus can make changes
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| June 24, 2010
| Gordon Lubold
Posted on 06/24/2010 1:09:07 PM PDT by jazusamo
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I have to believe Gen. Petraeus has already discussed the ROE and pullout dates with Obama.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:09:10 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
To: smoothsailing; Lancey Howard; Just A Nobody; freema
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:10:25 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
How long until The Won fires Gen. Petraeus also?
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:13:22 PM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: jazusamo
Gen. David Petraeus will be given the flexibility to submit recommendations on the Afghanistan strategy once he arrives there, Awfully nice of them to allow the general to "submit recommendations". Can he do it through official channels or will he have to write a letter to the editor of Spin Magazine to get Obama to read it.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:15:15 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
To: jazusamo
Change the ROE and win the war. Don’t and you won’t.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:17:41 PM PDT
by
TomasUSMC
( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
To: jazusamo
The president has established the strategy Well, they always say that losing is the real test of a persons character.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:18:41 PM PDT
by
throwback
( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
To: jazusamo
So will American soldiers now be permitted to DEFEND themselves? You know...just like in a REEEEL war??
To: DuncanWaring
How long until The Won fires Gen. Petraeus also? Zero can give Petraeus the tools and means to win or how about Mr Commander in Chief Obama can go to Afghanistan in person and personally direct the war.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:19:37 PM PDT
by
Red Steel
To: DuncanWaring; KarlInOhio
I’m wondering if Petraeus may have a lot more standing with Zer0 than McChrystal did. Petraeus proved himself in Iraq when most Dems laughed at him and some insinuated he was lying.
If it should turn out that Zer0 fires Petraeus as well then I believe it will only make Zer0 look more the fool, but maybe not.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:21:55 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: TomasUSMC
I agree, they have to be changed.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:23:40 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
Defense Secretary Gates demonstrates the proper 0baMao posture on foreign policy.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:24:04 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
To: jazusamo
People best understand that this old war dog layed out his plans before accepting the position. If he didn’t get what he wanted, he wouldn’t have taken the job. Obama thinks he can scare these guys and so do the Democrats. These are warriors. They will make the political decisions that they want for their careers, country and family, but scare them into making a certain decision? I don’t think so.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:26:33 PM PDT
by
RC2
To: TigersEye
We have a bunch of a holes on this ship.
To: TomasUSMC
What is the objective? What does “win” mean in this situation? I don’t understand why conservatives are in favor of the wars (undeclared, so not really wars, due to the spineless cowards in Congress)in Iraq and Afghanistan. The initial objectives were long ago tossed aside, so what are we doing there now besides propping up the crooks, Maliki and Karzai?
We ought to bring our troops home, put them along our borders, and send all the Muslims back to where they came from.
Seriously, I would really like to know what it is we are trying to accomplish, because it looks like conflicts without resolution. I would like to think our guys are not dying just to save face for a bunch of weasel politicians.
To: RC2
People best understand that this old war dog layed out his plans before accepting the position. If he didnt get what he wanted, he wouldnt have taken the job.I'd bet money on that if I was a betting man.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:29:26 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
McChrystal had emphasized the need to protect the civilian population a tenet of an effective counterinsurgency strategy. Petraeus, who literally wrote the book on counterinsurgency by writing the Armys manual on it, is sensitive to this issue. Who is responsible for ROE in Afghanistan?
The one that wrote the rules? The one that enforced the rules? OR a CINC that doesn't give a damm if our troops are put in danger because of the rules?
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:30:19 PM PDT
by
BARLF
To: RC2
Remember that Petraeus was a President Bush appointee. Why him?? There are plenty of Generals...
To: jazusamo
If they don’t change the ROE’s, then we need to seriously consider packing up and pulling out!
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:31:07 PM PDT
by
Conservative Vermont Vet
((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
To: Red Steel
\\ General who? David?
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:33:06 PM PDT
by
GaltMeister
(All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.)
To: jazusamo
Among the issues Petraeus may examine carefully involve the rules of engagement, which govern when troops can and cannot fire. Some believe those rules under McChrystal were too restrictive, effectively tying one hand behind the backs of troops. Gates is an *********.
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posted on
06/24/2010 1:40:50 PM PDT
by
BARLF
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