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Immigrants To Unemployed: 'Come On, Take Our Jobs' (ONE FOR MICHAEL SAVAGE ...)
IMPO Insider ^ | June 25, 2010 | Juliana Barbassa, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 06/25/2010 10:13:56 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — In a tongue-in-cheek call for immigration reform, farm workers are teaming up with comedian Stephen Colbert in a challenge to unemployed Americans: Come on, take our jobs.

Farm workers are tired of being blamed by politicians and anti-immigrant activists for taking work that should go to Americans and dragging down the economy, said Arturo Rodriguez, the president of the United Farm Workers of America.

So the group is encouraging the unemployed — and any Washington pundits who want to join them — to apply for the some of thousands of agricultural jobs being posted with state agencies as harvest season begins.

All applicants need to do is fill out an online form under the banner "I want to be a farm worker" at www.takeourjobs.org, and experienced field hands will train them and connect them to farms.

Three out of four farm workers in the U.S. were born abroad, and more than half are illegal immigrants, according to the Labor Department.

Proponents of tougher immigration laws have argued that farmers have become used to cheap labor. The problem with the UFW's proposition, they argue, is that growers don't want to raise wages and improve working conditions enough to attract Americans.

In either case, those who have done the job have some words of advice for applicants.

First, dress appropriately. During summer, when the harvest of fruits and vegetables is in full swing in California's Central Valley, temperatures hover in the triple digits. Heat exhaustion is one of the reasons farm labor consistently makes the Bureau of Labor Statistics' top ten list of the nation's most dangerous jobs.

Second, expect long days. Growers have a small window to pick fruit before it is overripe; work starts before dawn and goes on for 12 or more hours.

And don't count on a big paycheck. Farm workers are excluded from federal overtime provisions, and small farms don't even have to pay the minimum wage. Fifteen states don't require farm labor to be covered by workers compensation laws.

Any takers?

"The reality is farmworkers who are here today aren't taking any American jobs away. They work in often unbearable situations," Rodriguez said. "I don't think there will be many takers, but the offer is being made. Let's see what happens."

To highlight just how unlikely the prospect of Americans lining up to pick strawberries or grapes is, Comedy Central's "Colbert Report" plans to feature the "Take Our Jobs" campaign on July 8. Requests to Comedy Central and Colbert for comment on the nature of the collaboration weren't immediately answered.

Another way of tackling the issue is to strengthen immigration enforcement, said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which supports strict immigration laws.

It's an idea that might not end up on Comedy Central, but reducing the pool of farm workers would force growers to improve working conditions and raise wages.

"They're daring the American people to get by without farm workers," he said. "What I'm saying is, 'Let's take them up on that and call their bluff.'"

The campaign is being played for jokes, but the need to secure the right to work for immigrants who are here is serious business, said Michael Rubio, supervisor in Kern County, one of the biggest ag producing counties in the nation.

"Our county, our economy, rely heavily on the work of immigrant and unauthorized workers," he said. "I would encourage all our national leaders to come visit Kern County and to spend one day, or even half a day, in the shoes of these farm workers."

Hopefully, the message will go down easier with some laughs, said Manuel Cunha, president of the California grower association Nisei Farmers League, who was not a part of the campaign.

"If you don't add some humor to this, it's enough to get you drinking, and I don't mean Pepsi," Cunha said, dismissing the idea that Americans would take up the farm workers' offer.

California's agriculture industry launched a similar campaign in 1998, hoping to recruit welfare recipients and unemployed workers to work on farms, he said. Three people showed up.

"Give us a legal, qualified work force. Right now, farmers don't know from day to day if they're going to get hammered by ICE," he said, referring to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. "What happens to my labor pool?"

His organization supports AgJobs, a bill currently in the Senate which would allow those who have worked in U.S. agriculture for at least 150 days in the previous two years to get legal status.

The bill has been proposed in various forms since the late 1990s, with backing from the United Farm Workers of America and other farming groups, but has never passed.

Politicians' and advocates' perspectives on the matter might change if they were to take up the farm workers' offer, said Rubio from Bakersfield.

"The view and the temperature is much different from a row in a field than from inside an air conditioned office," he said. "Is it a challenge? Most certainly, yes. Come on down."


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This is a challenge that should be answered; yesterday, Savage was complaining about young whites not taking these jobs so this would be a good one for him to push. Imagine how surprised Colbert would be when this backfires.
1 posted on 06/25/2010 10:14:04 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

We can dream...but it won’t backfire. Know many American teenagers? Just look at Obamacare, humans in America are kids now until 26? Those little spoiled bastards, with few exceptions will not take a job that makes them sweat.


2 posted on 06/25/2010 10:19:34 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Chi-townChief

This is good- I have nothing against peoppe who come here and work hard and take care of their families- I actually supported Bush’s ‘guest worker’ program

For this very reason. I doubt those on unemployment would take those jobs.

So... in order to get them here LEGALLY and know who we have in our country, have a guest worker program. That way they can come and go without fear and we have less of that problem and we would know who is here!

anyone else must be criminals and drug runners


3 posted on 06/25/2010 10:19:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!!!!!)
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To: Chi-townChief

I regularly drive by these fields and every single car parked at the side of the pick is better than mine.

Anyone taking them up on the offer will get the worst job in the field —count on that.


4 posted on 06/25/2010 10:20:16 AM PDT by TokuMei
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To: Chi-townChief
A friend was telling me about a small business in Arizona which hired only illegals (about 200). The place was raided (perhaps by ICE) and within a week all 200 illegals were replaced by American workers. So this idea or notion that Americans won't do the work of illegals is total and utter nonsense.

I know many here will want to know the name of the company. I'll try to get that as I know that's an important component for my argument.

5 posted on 06/25/2010 10:20:38 AM PDT by library user
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To: Chi-townChief

This is a good idea. But I don’t think this should be targeted at the unemployed. I think it should be targeted to those on welfare.


6 posted on 06/25/2010 10:20:59 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Obama: "I will gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.")
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To: Chi-townChief

Why would the unemployed take this work? They get a check form the government.


7 posted on 06/25/2010 10:21:44 AM PDT by all the best
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To: Chi-townChief

I mentioned before: I saw a number of contractor trucks in the neighborhood. THey were there to trim trees around the power lines. Near as I could tell, the workers, numbering about 10, were all Spanish speaking with broken English. Tell me that these are jobs that Americans won’t do? Tell me that most if not all were here legally?


8 posted on 06/25/2010 10:22:41 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (George W. Bush was the last conservative democrat)
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To: dynachrome

SAVAGE PING !!!! (I think you have the list)


9 posted on 06/25/2010 10:23:26 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: TokuMei

Why was the Cotton Gin invented? Because a war was fought over whether slavery was legal or not —the answer was no.

The altered cost structure made it rational to automatize cotton picking.

Hmmm...I wonder why we don’t have more innovation in farming labor? I WONDER...


10 posted on 06/25/2010 10:24:33 AM PDT by TokuMei
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To: Chi-townChief

A slaughterhouse was raided about a year ago. The worst job in the world if you ask me. At least 100 illegals were out. Thousands of Americans lined up for those jobs. Colbert is a POS.


11 posted on 06/25/2010 10:24:39 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: Chi-townChief

Every year we recruit thousands of kids in the midwest to detassel. It is hard/hot work. I did the calculations, and, it appeared, once you got past the promises, to amount to about $4-5/hr for my daughter who is now old enough to work.


12 posted on 06/25/2010 10:25:54 AM PDT by exhaustguy
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To: bigfootbob
One of the problems that I see is that the government stops kids from taking some of these jobs. When I was growing up in rural Iowa, we often made money in the summer by detasseling corn. Now farm workers are brought in to do it, because the companies are no longer allowed to employ teenagers for this work.

That said, I often laugh when I am being told that we need to build a skateboard park or some such because there is just nothing for the kids in our California town to do. Growing up on the farm, I never once complained that I had nothing to do, because my mother could always find something to occupy my time.

13 posted on 06/25/2010 10:26:00 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: Mr. K
So... in order to get them here LEGALLY and know who we have in our country, have a guest worker program. That way they can come and go without fear and we have less of that problem and we would know who is here!

What about diseases? Do we also require vaccinations as a condition for entering the country? Something else to think about.

14 posted on 06/25/2010 10:26:04 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Chi-townChief

Folks are missing the point.

First you close the borders. Then you deport all of the illegals.

Now farmers are offering their jobs only to people who are legally entitled to take them. The employers and applicants negotiate a wage they can both accept and work commences.

Econ 101, people. Learn it, believe it, use it.


15 posted on 06/25/2010 10:28:04 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Chi-townChief

So illegals are ONLY doing farm work??

How big a lie is that?


16 posted on 06/25/2010 10:28:11 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: bigfootbob

Oh I think it does a lot more than simply “make you sweat”. I grew up on a farm. Fed animals, baled hay, horses, built fences, from sunup to sundown, 6am to 6pm. It can be
backbreaking work. I would *not* recommend it to anyone over 30 if you are not in decent shape.

And I don’t appreciate being called a “bastard” by you or anyone else on this forum. Don’t criticize unless you have actually done the work yourself.


17 posted on 06/25/2010 10:28:42 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Mr. K

Millions more guaranteed socialist voters to boot.


18 posted on 06/25/2010 10:29:20 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Chi-townChief

Farm work is an excellent outlet for voluntary prison labor. Let the petty thieves, drunks and bar toughs pick and sort. It will do them well.


19 posted on 06/25/2010 10:31:53 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: Mr. K

proofreading is not my specialty... I swear I try!!!


20 posted on 06/25/2010 10:33:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofread- I swear I try!)
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To: Chi-townChief
And don't count on a big paycheck. Farm workers are excluded from federal overtime provisions, and small farms don't even have to pay the minimum wage. Fifteen states don't require farm labor to be covered by workers compensation laws.

If there weren't ILLEGAL immigrants willing to work under these conditions, and skewing the free market for labor, wages would have to rise and Americans WOULD take the jobs.

Imagines if there were ~550 Americans willing to be a Congressman/Senator for no wages/perks and actually read legislation and consider their constituents before voting. And current politicians had to compete with the people for their own jobs... fair??

21 posted on 06/25/2010 10:33:54 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Chi-townChief

This is just a way to confuse the issue. Jobs may be an issue in some cases. But the big and important issue is - the difference between legal and illegal immigrants. Legal, OK, illegal, not OK. All other talk is nonsense and a red herring.


22 posted on 06/25/2010 10:33:56 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: Chi-townChief
should be answered...

For both the farmer and the worker -- pay for production and not by the hour. No reason Jake should get the same as Sam if Sam picks twice as much.

It will also give a true value. Work to fill one basket of strawberries and you'll get an idea how hard it is to do, how long it takes, and what you'll take to work that hard for that long.

23 posted on 06/25/2010 10:36:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Chi-townChief

Around here the illegal aliens dominate the construction business except for electricians and plumbers and I expect that is just a matter of time.


24 posted on 06/25/2010 10:38:39 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Chi-townChief

Don’t live in nor near agricultural areas but we’d happily take “our jobs” from those doing roofing, construction, lawn, housecleaning, and all restaurant, not to mention the cities hiring illegals to do their “green work,” street repair, etc. in the Metro Kansas City area (especially on the KS side of the State Line.)


25 posted on 06/25/2010 10:38:54 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Chi-townChief

It isn’t itinerant farm labor jobs that is the problem.

It is the janitorial, meat packing, chicken-flicking, construction, ship yard, fence building, fast food & restaurant, hospital/hospitality ancillary, and other sector jobs that are being taken over by the invading hordes.

These people don’t want Americans to remember the huge lines of unemployed Americn applicants at several sites, in multiple states, after immigration raids under GWB.


26 posted on 06/25/2010 10:39:42 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: library user

Why not make juvenile delinquents and lifer convicts do all the work? Get them out of their cells and do something for the money that supports them.


27 posted on 06/25/2010 10:41:28 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Soothesayer9

I didn’t call you a bastard. I do think you’re a narcissistic idiot if you think what I posted refers to you as a bastard.

By the way, I own a small farm with sheep, chicken, several cattle, dogs with vegetable and orchard gardens. And I grew up on a 2,500 acre soybean and corn farm in Indiana. Which is why I said what I said only to have it validated by you some 9 minutes later.


28 posted on 06/25/2010 10:45:32 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: xzins; Chi-townChief
It will also give a true value. Work to fill one basket of strawberries and you'll get an idea how hard it is to do, how long it takes, and what you'll take to work that hard for that long.

"D. Illegal immigrants are not just underpaid; they are very likely to suffer work-related disabilities which are not covered by insurance. They often do not have a place to live. Since they usually do not get any benefits, their care increasingly has become the responsibility of the state government.

"The strawberry has long been known to migrants as la fruta del diablo - the fruit of the devil. Picking strawberries is some of the lowest-paid, most difficult, and therefore least desirable farmwork in California. Strawberries are fragile and bruise easily. They must be picked with great care, especially the berries that will be sold fresh at the market.

...

"You must bend at the waist to pick the fruit, which explains why the job is so difficult. Bending over that way for an hour can cause a stiff back; doing so for ten to twelve hours a day, weeks at a time, can cause excruciating pain and lifelong disabilities. Most strawberry pickers suffer back pain."

http://www.eriposte.com/civil_rights/non-citizens/ca_strawberry_industry.htm

29 posted on 06/25/2010 10:46:09 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Therefore, illegal immigant pickers create a false economy; certainly a false price for strawberries. that is probably the reason strawberries used to be grown at home.

They are the equivalent of serf labor, and serf/slave labor distorts a free market.


30 posted on 06/25/2010 10:49:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Chi-townChief

This is total BS! The number of people unemployed is so full of shit. You can’t call a person who does not want to work “Unemployed”. SOme folks rather sit on their ass and collect ObamaCare rather than work. There is no incentive for these people. Just go out and have more children and sooner or later, you will out number those decent folks who work for what they get. Then, we all die from killing each other, just at they do in CHicago. No repect and no values. WHen the handouts stop, no reason not to go rob, rape or kill for what you want. You voted for him, now live with his shit!


31 posted on 06/25/2010 10:54:36 AM PDT by 57Chevy (Freedom is not Free!)
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To: Chi-townChief

This is total BS! The number of people unemployed is so full of shit. You can’t call a person who does not want to work “Unemployed”. SOme folks rather sit on their ass and collect ObamaCare rather than work. There is no incentive for these people. Just go out and have more children and sooner or later, you will out number those decent folks who work for what they get. Then, we all die from killing each other, just at they do in CHicago. No repect and no values. WHen the handouts stop, no reason not to go rob, rape or kill for what you want. You voted for him, now live with his shit!


32 posted on 06/25/2010 10:54:53 AM PDT by 57Chevy (Freedom is not Free!)
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To: Chi-townChief

This is total BS! The number of people unemployed is so full of shit. You can’t call a person who does not want to work “Unemployed”. SOme folks rather sit on their ass and collect ObamaCare rather than work. There is no incentive for these people. Just go out and have more children and sooner or later, you will out number those decent folks who work for what they get. Then, we all die from killing each other, just at they do in CHicago. No repect and no values. WHen the handouts stop, no reason not to go rob, rape or kill for what you want. You voted for him, now live with his shit!


33 posted on 06/25/2010 10:54:57 AM PDT by 57Chevy (Freedom is not Free!)
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To: Chi-townChief

You think lazy fat McDonalds eating Americans will take this job? Hahaha, and next you will tell me President Obama is not a socialist.

I bet no more then 25 Americans sign up for this. And I bet out of those 25, 20 don’t make it past the first day.

America, and white America in particular, has become a fat lazy country willing to suck off the government teet, and unable to do any hard labor anymore


34 posted on 06/25/2010 10:57:05 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: rogue yam

“Now farmers are offering their jobs only to people who are legally entitled to take them. The employers and applicants negotiate a wage they can both accept and work commences.

100% correct.


35 posted on 06/25/2010 11:00:36 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: bigfootbob

It’s a catch 22.... Because the Illegals take the jobs the farmers don’t have to pay even minimum wage and because they won’t pay even minimum wage Americans wont take the job..

I used to sell balloons in 95+ degree heat carrying 50 lbs worth of stuff when I was a teenager (90’s). Sometimes I would make a lot (300 in a day) some times a little (5$ a day)... It averaged out to a bout 10-15$ an hour and had friends lined up to do it should any slots open up.

If these farm workers were paying 10-12$ an hour they would have little trouble finding teens and college students willing to do it.


36 posted on 06/25/2010 11:00:55 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Mr. K

>>For this very reason. I doubt those on unemployment would take those jobs.<<

We would. In fact, I know tons of tweens and teens that would die to have those jobs.

We were out three hours at the height of the day. (would have been out longer if we didn’t miss the height of ripe) They make it out like it’s a living hell. It’s not. I did it as a kid for spending cash, now my kids do it to stock away food. A straw sun hat, white clothes, a cooler with bottles of water and you CAN go all day. It’s hard when you start (and my 49 year old hips are aching today) but my Tweens made it through just fine.

We were out picking Strawberries yesterday. Today we processed 30 pounds of them.


37 posted on 06/25/2010 11:05:11 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: MadIsh32

“America, and white America in particular, has become a fat lazy country...”

Let this hard-working white American be the first to say “up yours”.


38 posted on 06/25/2010 11:07:24 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: Mr. K

Of course-—have a guest worker program.
THere ARE INDEED some jobs Mexican illegals (or even
legals) would flock to well before any American of any age would. THAT , however, is the classic “false choice” that the open borders crowd likes to foist on us, as if it’s THAT the defines the whole issue of Illegal Immigration
and, beyond that, looming amnesty. It DOESN’T. Those of us
against Illegal Immigration might be against it for a whole host of reasons, but I assure you, CRIME, and NOT honest labor, is chief among them. They are demagoguing this issue even in these late stages, just as they’ve done for decades, because it’s worked. They’re hoping it will work again.


39 posted on 06/25/2010 11:08:27 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Every election is like an advance auction sale of stolen goods"--H.L.Mencken)
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To: Chi-townChief

Prisons are full of free labor use them time to earn their keep.


40 posted on 06/25/2010 11:10:58 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: N3WBI3

And to that one can add the little fact that Americans/Europeans have to pay taxes, pay for their own health insurance and so on.

This is the reason we see immigrants take over low-paying jobs and cash-businesses in country after country. If there is a business where one has the opportunity to cheat on taxes chances are it will be dominated by immigrants. And thus the little corner shops are replaced by foreign versions, taxis become dominated by foreigners who have no idea where anything is etc...

An American would actually be left with less money than an illegal for doing the same work for the same pay.


41 posted on 06/25/2010 11:12:51 AM PDT by LastNorwegian
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To: Mr. K

And having said all I just said, I wonder what would happen if the “other side” of this issue (whatever or whoever that is)were to propose some version of the Guest Worker program
that would make provisions for citizenship, be fair, and satisfy a lot more interests than what we have now (the most divisive and contentious issue in the nation today),
I wonder just how the Open Borders crowd would take it, however reasonable?
No, they’d fight it tooth and nail, because ultimately , what they want is amnesty, and what amnesty means is guaranteed votes for the Left in perpetuity.


42 posted on 06/25/2010 11:14:25 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Every election is like an advance auction sale of stolen goods"--H.L.Mencken)
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To: fightinJAG

” I think it should be targeted to those on welfare.”

Eliminate all welfare and there will be plenty of stoop labor available!

Welfare, food stamps, and subsidized housing is criminal!


43 posted on 06/25/2010 11:14:38 AM PDT by dalereed (in)
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To: Chi-townChief

If you stopped entitlements, these would be filled.


44 posted on 06/25/2010 11:15:41 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somwhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Magic Fingers
At last year Pinot Noir harvest (fancy grapes for wine making) about half the workers appeared to be native born 'Mericans.

So many people showed up for a chance to make 8-9 bucks an hour, they were only able to work about 2 & 1/2 hours before the bins were full.

Screw McCain and and ALL Amnesty types, B#stards, all of them.

45 posted on 06/25/2010 11:16:38 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating Heart)
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To: Chi-townChief

Stop welfare payments to able bodied people. Hunger is a good motivator.


46 posted on 06/25/2010 11:16:46 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (We don't have a leader in the Oval Office, we have a reader in the Oval Office.)
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To: Chi-townChief; All

What about the terrorists among the tens of millions of illegal aliens in our country Colbert? Can I have one of their jobs? I’m real good at shooting and blowing up stuff.


47 posted on 06/25/2010 11:17:56 AM PDT by KarinG1 (They should put the terror watch list online so we'd know who to drag out and feed to the gators.)
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To: xzins
Work to fill one basket of strawberries and you'll get an idea how hard it is to do, how long it takes, and what you'll take to work that hard for that long.

Ah! Things I used to do when I was a lot younger. Get on the berry bus, bust your butt all day, get the card punched for each flat, cash it at the end of the day.

Lots of us used to do that as kids. It builds character and teaches you to get an education because you don't want to do that for the rest of your life. Also helps you learn Spanish which is becoming increasingly useful to know.

Its a pity that the berry buses don't run anymore like they used to....

48 posted on 06/25/2010 11:18:51 AM PDT by superloser
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To: TokuMei
Hmmm...I wonder why we don’t have more innovation in farming labor? I WONDER...

Exactly.

A grower would recoup his investment in mechanized harvesting in a season or two.

AND the tax payers wouldn't be on the hook for all the handouts illegals line up for.

So long as farmers can pass a lot of their expenses off on the tax payer, the investment in technology isn't so attractive.

49 posted on 06/25/2010 11:18:56 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: N3WBI3

You’re right, but there’s another angle. Somewhere between $5 and $10 and hour it probably makes sense for the farmer to say to hell with it and automate everything.

So the illegals are not taking jobs from mythical American farm laborers, but from skilled American tradesmen working for Caterpillar and International Harvester.

And anticipating the next argument, Oh yes, all of these jobs can be automated. If we can automate cotton picking, we can automate whatever this is...


50 posted on 06/25/2010 11:20:47 AM PDT by delapaz
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