Posted on 06/29/2010 4:21:08 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist
Thanks GGG,
Havn’t heard from you in a while, hope everything is well; glad your back!
It's not just evolution/creationism, it's all the implications of "Young Earth Creationism". A 6000 (more or less) year old earth requires throwing out most of the science of geology, astronomy, physics, etc, etc.
If you are not going to teach evolution through natural selection of genetic variation, what “actual science” on the subject ARE you going to teach?
Creation Science, of course.
That's what will be taught, because that's what we will purchase.
I mean as long as you are going to discount physical evidence in favor of Biblical interpretation; one may as well be a Geocentrist - it is the most logically consistent position once you refuse to consider physical evidence.
Creationism doesn't have a scientific explanation for the diversity of life, they have a miraculous explanation.
A miraculous explanation is not now and never will be a scientific explanation.
And where is the demand for ACTUAL scientists in the Free Market going to go? You think suddenly oil exploration companies will hire YEC geologists to help them find oil; that suddenly biotechnology companies will hire creation-biologists to help them find cures for disease?
Why don't they do so now?
I know why! Because the Free Market has shown that assumptions of great age of the Earth pays off in terms of accurate prediction in geology; thus the Free Market hires REAL geologists.
Similarly the Free Market has shown that assumptions of evolution pays off in terms of accurate predictions in biology; thus the Free Market hires REAL biologists.
But good luck convincing the Free Market they are wrong, and that there is untapped potential in hiring creationists posing as scientists to make the next big discovery that will pay off!
You can do your song and dance, but the Free Market isn't interested in purchasing much of what you are selling!
My oldest daughter had a SAT practice book. She had done about 3 exams and announced about the verbal section *They don’t want the real correct answer, they want the politically correct answer. I’m taking another test!*
She upped her verbal score 100 points just by figuring that out.
My son, God bless him, tried and tried but could not figure out how to do that. You might as well have tried to explain color to a color blind person. He’s a true geek.
Taking more than one SAT may not make much difference if you only take two or three. My kids took a lot and figured out how to take the test.
But you can’t fudge the math part and obviously they did well on that.
You do have a good reason for being distracted. I know how hard it is to be motivated and concentrate after the death of a parent.
Sure it is. Most of the great scientists of history were Creationists.
You can do your song and dance, but the Free Market isn't interested in purchasing much of what you are selling!
Okay. Then why don't you just support returning to Creationist Parents the $10,000 per-child, per-year which is currently extorted from them for the teaching of Evolutionism -- and prepare to marvel at the sudden, massive demand which will erupt for scientist-educators from the Discovery Institute, the Institute for Creation Research, the Creation Research Society, and the many other Creation Science foundations.
Of course, many Evolutionists will very quickly be out of a job, without Government Subsidies for the teaching of Child-Abuse Evolutionism. We Parents will not support Child Abusers with our purchasing dollars, for ANY amount of alleged post-graduation "payoff", given the Economic Choice.
But you don't want to do that, because you support Communism in Education, not Capitalism.
I, however, am a Capitalist.
Of course, Jefferson was right.
You ought to very seriously consider reversing that order. We looked into Christian schooling and decided against it for a variety of reasons, the primary one being money.
Find out whether there are good homeschool support groups in your area. That will provide a lot of extra-curricular activity for the kids and perhaps the opportunity for homeschool co-ops.
Christian schools are definitely a better option than public schools, but the amount of time demanded to help the school in fund raising and cafeteria duty and janitorial duty, etc,wasn't worth it. There's WAY more freedom homeschooling. You set the schedule.
What may be a sin for you may not be for me. That’s Biblical.
And your comments ARE telling people how to raise their children. Because you are saying if we don’t give them a creationist education, we are sending them off for mental raping. That’s telling us implicitly how to raise our children. Both sides mouth/talking..... ;)
Agree. Have had that discussion with one of my students just this past semester; he being a diehard YEC.
#20, well said!
The ToE is based on forensic evidence and extrapolation. While science is used to provide support for the ToE, GD is correct about it being a philosophical construct.
I’ve thought that I was going to have to teach two lessons to my kids as they get up into the place where they’re going to have to take a “worldly knowledge” evaluation test.
One of the truth, and one of what the world wants you to think.
I can’t tell what the article is trying to say.
My kid brother, whose educational options my Christian mother was able to consider on their own merits once my Marxist Atheist father passed away, was privileged to receive a Classical Education at a Reformed Episcopalian academy (all the "liberal arts", PLUS Greek, Latin, Logic, and Rhetoric) for only a little over $300 per month. Barely over one-third of what the Government "charges" for its Government Schooling "services".
We'll consider all options, but I really admired my kid brother's education. It's a consideration, y'know?
At any rate, even if we do go with our first choice of Christian Schooling, we don't intend to just stick 'em in class and forget about them. We'll try to at least supplement their "formal" schooling with home instruction, as well. I Promise. ;-)
eh? Really? There is no objective measurement of sin? I'd be interested in your Biblical reference for that, in context.
Sounds more like this new age "emergent" crap that's apostasizing the churches these days, or even the serpent's lie that you can know (define) good and evil for yourself.
For example, light from a galaxy one hundred million light years away; creationists just “know” that the universe is not that old, so they have a ‘fudge factor’ that they use to pound the square peg of the data into the round hole of their religious assumptions.
Most of the great scientists of history before 1860 were creationists. Do you know what happened in 1860? Do you know that most great scientists from that point on accepted evolution?
And I do not support Public schools; I know that the Free Market does do and will continue to do a better job. But so long as there ARE public schools, I am against teaching a particular religious belief instead of teaching science.
That is because I support the Constitution and freedom of conscience.
If you support teaching your particular religious views of creationism instead of the science of evolution; do you similarly support teaching the (supposed) history of the Semitic people in America as put forth by the Book of Mormon in history class in Utah? Should the teachings of the Quran prevail in Muslim dominated areas of Michigan (they are also creationists, if that helps you decide)?
I am entitled to my beliefs.
You are equally entitled to disagree with them.
I harbor no ill will on the matter.
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