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Jon Stewart’s Walter Cronkite moment [Stewart questions big government now]
Washington Examiner ^ | Matthew Sheffield

Posted on 06/29/2010 10:33:55 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com

Lyndon Johnson is famous for saying that if he had lost the favorable opinion of liberal former CBS News anchor Walter Cronkite that he had lost that of most of America.

President Barack Obama may be at a similar juncture now. With his poll numbers continuing a downward trend in light of the Gulf oil leak, his unpopular health care bill, and deficit spending, liberal comedian Jon Stewart asked a question Monday that is now beginning to emerge even in the minds of stalwart Democrats: Is government capable of doing anything large and expansive ?

As chronicled by Noel Sheppard at NewsBusters, Stewart challenged top Obama adviser David Axelrod on whether or not the administration is capable of doing any of the big things it’s promised, an argument long made by conservatives and libertarians wary of government encroachment.

“It’s clear that this administration believes that government can have a stronger hand in regulating Wall Street, in regulating energy, in doing these things. But has government during this time proved itself competent?” Stewart asked.

Axelrod defended his colleagues and argued, as pointed out here by David Freddoso, that the administration’s response to the H1N1 flu is proof that it is up to the task of big government. It was a striking remark that illustrated perhaps the biggest reason why President Obama is similar to Jimmy Carter: big government in practice is actually the best argument against big government in theory.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: comedian; comedycentral; dailyshow; davidaxelrod; jonstewart; metrosexual; obamalegacy; pravdamedia; thedailyshow; viacommie

1 posted on 06/29/2010 10:33:59 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com
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To: RatherBiased.com
Lyndon Johnson is famous for saying that if he had lost the favorable opinion of liberal former CBS News anchor Walter Cronkite that he had lost that of most of America.

I think that's not quite right.

2 posted on 06/29/2010 10:37:16 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: RatherBiased.com

“that the administration’s response to the H1N1 flu is proof “

And didn’t H1N1 turn out to be a semi-fraud?


3 posted on 06/29/2010 10:38:43 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: RatherBiased.com

Perhaps Obama has been a blessing in disguise.


4 posted on 06/29/2010 10:38:52 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: RatherBiased.com

This may all be true of Stewart right now, but come October and November he’ll be pimping hard for Obama and Democrats.


5 posted on 06/29/2010 10:39:18 AM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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To: RatherBiased.com

“Big government in practice is actually the best argument against big government in theory”

That quote sure hits the nail on the head. I’ll have to remember that one.


6 posted on 06/29/2010 10:40:27 AM PDT by The4thHorseman
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To: PetroniusMaximus
And didn’t H1N1 turn out to be a semi-fraud?

Don't know about fraud but the vaccine was late and then when it arrived there was so much that a great deal had to be dumped.

7 posted on 06/29/2010 10:41:05 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: RatherBiased.com
Sadly, this is quite a commentary on where this country has fallen.

I did not like Cronkite. I think he was always an ideologue, and I think it was a pity that he was trusted so much by the public.

Be that as it may, Cronkite was perceived to be an objective journalist, reporting the truth as he saw it, keeping the public informed on how the world really was. When LBJ learned that Cronkite was against the war, the president knew that this was a serious PR matter.

Stewart, on the other hand, is a clown. Some years ago, he was talking to a guest (possibly Al Gore?) and the guest was trying to correct Stewart and make sure that the statements on the show were fair and accurate. Stewart let his jaw drop a bit and said, "You ... you realize this is a comedy show, right? I mean ... we're not trying to be fair and accurate here, you know. We're trying to be funny. There's a difference."

But society may have come to the point where the people do not understand what is True, but are prepared to adopt whatever opinion is spouted by the clown on TV -- the guy trying to get cheap laughs while he sells car insurance.

"Truth is funny, and Funny is truth. And that is all we know, and all we need to know." -- apologies to Keats.

8 posted on 06/29/2010 10:43:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: RatherBiased.com

So, how long before Rahm neuters this sex poodle?


9 posted on 06/29/2010 10:47:05 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: The4thHorseman

One of the best arguments against big government is going on right around us.

With all the agencies involved, the government cannot clean up this oil spill.

One agency gets booms, another says they’re in the wrong spot, another says people can’t put them out, etc. They are all tripping over one another with an inefficient bureacracy. And in the meantime nothing is accomplished.

And people, because they are legislated out of the process, sit around either frustrated that they can’t do anything, or waiting for the government to handle something it’s fundamentally incapable of doing.


10 posted on 06/29/2010 10:47:14 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Stewart, on the other hand, is a clown...


Yes, he is. And very biased too. But you would be amazed at the number of people (especially young people) who confuse his comedy show for real news. He influences them...so what is the difference?


11 posted on 06/29/2010 10:48:07 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: I still care

I’ve always asked—why is it that because it’s a government program, why is that so great?


12 posted on 06/29/2010 10:49:17 AM PDT by gman992
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To: rbg81

Well, that is precisely my point. And it’s a sad state of affairs.


13 posted on 06/29/2010 10:50:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: rhombus

I’m pretty sure an article came out last week saying that the thread was greatly overhyped.


14 posted on 06/29/2010 10:54:54 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Exactly. It was supposed to be a Primmer for forcing public opinion toward supporting Obama Deathcare. It never materialized because the H1N1 Flu is NOT a serious threat. Damn near 40,000 people die of the flu every year, it is a NORMAL sort of virus which has plagued human kind for millennia. There are some things in nature which are capable of killing humans. We are NOT immortal, and this stupid nanny state Government isn’t going to change the natural world. I just wish Liberals would just disappear, go to some other country. I am sick of their Jonestown koolaide.


15 posted on 06/29/2010 10:57:48 AM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; All

Clown nose on, clown nose off.

Stewart is a commie vampire...never doubt it.


16 posted on 06/29/2010 11:02:23 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: The4thHorseman
That quote sure hits the nail on the head. I’ll have to remember that one.

As shall I.

17 posted on 06/29/2010 11:17:05 AM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: RatherBiased.com

If Republicans ever came up with a scheme to put the worst Democrat possible in the White House to increase their numbers, they couldn’t have picked anyone as good as Dear Reader.

Hmmmmm, maybe there really is a vast right wing conspiracy <-— Just to get the DU and Kos trolls all worked up


18 posted on 06/29/2010 11:32:23 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Obadiah

Yep.


19 posted on 06/29/2010 11:39:46 AM PDT by karnage (Obama is nothing more than a soundbite-emitting hologram)
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To: RatherBiased.com
“It’s clear that this administration believes that government can have a stronger hand in regulating Wall Street, in regulating energy

.. regulating everything.. and then some.

We've gone from federalism to fetteralism.

fetter - n. Something that restricts; restrains. v. to shackle; to restrict freedom.

Could be.. arguably the Establishment is now the 1960s frenzied Marxist-Alinsky street/campus revolutionary rabble and their ideological issue.

20 posted on 06/29/2010 12:11:49 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: RatherBiased.com

About a year ago, I told someone who got most of their news for Stewart and Colbert that if things keep going the way they are, then ten years from now Colbert will still be flogging dead horses, looking for ratings once his core audience has been forced to grow up and Stewart would be a news host on Fox.


21 posted on 06/29/2010 12:16:05 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: Niuhuru
Perhaps Obama has been a blessing in disguise

I doubt that he is a "blessing" we can survive much longer...


Budget Deficit

22 posted on 06/29/2010 12:50:17 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: RatherBiased.com

The Obama administration will go down as the Bernie Madoff of politics.
They took the money and ran.
It will all be gone and the country will be in worse shape.

All of the Democrats will be screaming for the release of their second chakra.

23 posted on 06/29/2010 2:37:06 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: PetroniusMaximus
H1N1 turned out to be a classic gubbermint fiasco. First they couldn't get enough vaccine. Then they couldn't get it to the right people. Then they had to throw out millions of doses because no one wanted it(No one needed it), and it had expired.

And the common flu killed more people than H1N1 in the end.

Great example of gubbermint incompetence.

24 posted on 06/29/2010 2:37:20 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RatherBiased.com
Jon "Laddie" McStewart throws our side a bone every once in a while.

I'm looking forward to the time that nothing he says will be repeated by anyone, because nobody watches him anymore..

What are his ratings and demos lately?

25 posted on 06/29/2010 5:39:56 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“But society may have come to the point where the people do not understand what is True,”
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I believe we are far past that point, there seems to be little to no sense of proportion, of the borderline between the serious and the absurd. Obummer stood on the stage at Denver and said that he would DEFEAT POVERTY, DISEASE AND CLIMATE CHANGE! Think about that for a moment! I mentioned that to one man and his response was to tell me that, “They all make promises they don’t keep”! My jaw dropped and I replied that there is a huge difference in making insincere promises that are within human power to keep if a person intended to do so, or at least are not totally beyond the limits of human powers and making the type of promises Obama made which obviously could be kept only by a supreme being, an omnipotent God. He didn’t seem to even grasp my meaning.

I think that even twenty years ago such a statement made by a nominee for president would have guaranteed his loss rather than his being worshiped as a messiah. I find it exceedingly strange that there has been so little notice taken of such an absurd promise. In the past this kind of thing would have been taken as the insult it was. Obama may as well have looked at the audience and said, “I don’t really think I am God but I damned sure think you are stupid enough to believe that I am God”.

The acceptance was the last speech by the Kenyan that I have watched with full attention. I found it to be possibly the strangest political speech I have ever heard. I still shake my head when I realize that he was allowed to get away with something so ridiculous. In a sane world all McCain would have had to do is pick segments of that speech to keep replaying for the voters and McCain, as bad a candidate as he was, would have won with ninety percent of the vote. Instead we were subjected to reviews praising this clown to the skies for that ridiculous acceptance speech! Truth? Nearly half the population has no actual concept of truth.


26 posted on 06/29/2010 7:39:57 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: RatherBiased.com

BTTT!


27 posted on 06/29/2010 9:08:02 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
And didn’t H1N1 turn out to be a semi-fraud?

I don't believe so. It posed a danger. It could have been very, very bad. Always good to treat influenza A as if it might go 1918. But its nothing to claim credit for stopping. Axelrod and Obama had zero to do with the virus not being more deadly. But maybe they think they did. They are that arrogant.

28 posted on 06/29/2010 9:12:13 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Axelrod defended his colleagues and argued, as pointed out here by David Freddoso, that the administration’s response to the H1N1 flu is proof that it is up to the task of big government. It was a striking remark that illustrated perhaps the biggest reason why President Obama is similar to Jimmy Carter: big government in practice is actually the best argument against big government in theory.
IMHO Stewart was just serving up a question that Axelrod knew was coming, part of Stewart's ongoing and never-ending shilling for his political party.
29 posted on 07/01/2010 4:13:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: RatherBiased.com
But has government during this time proved itself competent?” Stewart asked.

The above question is waaaay too insightful for a democrat to ask. Stewart's becoming interesting...

30 posted on 07/01/2010 9:04:04 AM PDT by GOPJ (There is nothing unexpected about the failure of socialism/communism.freeper pieceofthepuzzle)
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