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Gulf Coast Restoration Chief Ray Mabus has No Oil Spill Answers Just Yet
Nola.com ^ | 6/30/2010 | Frank Donze

Posted on 06/30/2010 3:19:43 PM PDT by Qbert

If Louisianians were hoping to get a clearer picture of the federal government's strategy for fixing their battered coast in the wake of the Gulf oil spill, they didn't get much help Tuesday from the Obama administration's new point man for Gulf Coast restoration, who made his first visit to the area since taking the post.

Hours after a flyover of the oil-stained Louisiana shoreline Tuesday, former Mississippi Gov. and current Navy Secretary Ray Mabus delivered this sobering message: Don't look for specifics anytime soon.

With a White House game plan for fixing the economic and ecological damage from the BP oil spill still in the formative stages, Mabus -- who has said very little publicly since being named to the new position two weeks ago -- asked for patience from residents of the four states reeling from the catastrophe.

"I understand that people are very, very concerned about today - about the here and now - and that it's hard to focus on something that may happen a month from now or two months from now or even years from now," Mabus said during a news conference at New Orleans Lakefront Airport.

(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: la; oilspill
...Somehow I doubt this guy would have answers even if he did work full-time.
1 posted on 06/30/2010 3:19:49 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

MABUS is working on the oil spill???!!!!

Ut oh, here comes the Nostradamus stuff..


2 posted on 06/30/2010 3:23:14 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Qbert

I’ve been reading that the dispersant is more deadly than the oil. Wonder how much longer before they have to evacuate.


3 posted on 06/30/2010 3:23:24 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Qbert

71 days is enough patience, Mr. Mabus.

Get your ass in gear.


4 posted on 06/30/2010 3:23:40 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Kimberly GG

They are both toxic, and so is the methane gas. Extremely toxic, and the methane gas, should it ever come on land as a single mass, will kill anything that encounters it.

This is really bad.


5 posted on 06/30/2010 3:25:54 PM PDT by chris37
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To: chris37

62

‘Mabus’ then will soon die, there will come
Of people and beasts a horrible rout:
Then suddenly one will see vengeance,
Hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run.


I know, tinfoil city. But still creepy...


6 posted on 06/30/2010 3:26:55 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: chris37
Extremely toxic, and the methane gas, should it ever come on land as a single mass, will kill anything that encounters it.

And a relatively small quantity of air, should it ever be introduced intravenously, will kill every human on earth.
7 posted on 06/30/2010 3:27:50 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

and Obama wants to ignore this deadly problem. The media is afraid of hurting Obama with truthful reporting.


8 posted on 06/30/2010 3:34:18 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Kimberly GG

“Wonder how much longer before they have to evacuate.”

The time to evacuate was...oh, probably around day 55 or so.

But seriously, I think that folks down there should do whatever they need to do on their own- and bring in whatever researchers they need at the universities to do tests on this stuff. I have absoultely no faith that the Feds are telling the truth here after everything that has gone on.


9 posted on 06/30/2010 3:34:59 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: chris37

WWL, Channel 4 News....

BP Oil Spill - Toxic Gases Spreading Inland Scientist Says Move Out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q-msqPnkD4&feature=related


10 posted on 06/30/2010 3:38:51 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: fooman

64

Hope at hand will come to fail:

Fleet at the great port cannot be received.

http://www.nostradamus.org/q_en_c2.php#q62


11 posted on 06/30/2010 3:40:11 PM PDT by faq
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To: aruanan

The post that I responded to inquired about the toxicity of elements of this oil spill, not to the mortality rates of intravenous embolism.

But thank you for the useless data just the same.


12 posted on 06/30/2010 3:42:11 PM PDT by chris37
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To: chris37
The post that I responded to inquired about the toxicity of elements of this oil spill, not to the mortality rates of intravenous embolism.

But thank you for the useless data just the same.


You missed the point entirely, the point being that all that methane is not going to come onto land in one big mass. If it did, it would kill everything that breathed air that it overcame, but that's never going to happen. Just as a very small quantity of air is sufficient to kill every living human on earth if administered in the right way, but, like your methane gas scenario, it's never going to happen.
13 posted on 06/30/2010 3:47:19 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Qbert

Navy Secretary Roy Mabus is the one who was going to be fired and replaced by Joe Sestak if Sestak took Obama’s bribe.

Mabus is also famous for tape recording his first wife’s conversations with her minister to use against her.


14 posted on 06/30/2010 3:48:58 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Kimberly GG

Kimberly, thanks for that link. My best friend is in Metairie, La. I’m over in Milton, Fl.. We are both watching this very closely. At the first sign of evacuations or toxicity moving significantly inland, we will head to by brother’s house in Denver.

In fact, if the relief wells fail to bottom kill the gusher, it may well be time to head out then, if not sooner.


15 posted on 06/30/2010 3:49:14 PM PDT by chris37
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To: aruanan

Oh. I see.

What if a hurricane pulls the methane up out of the water and then pushes it onto land?

Did you see the video of boiling surf in Pensacola? That’s methane.

Do you know how much methane has been released into the gulf in the past 71 days? Sure, the water is holding much of it down at this time, but what if that changes?

Never say never.


16 posted on 06/30/2010 3:53:08 PM PDT by chris37
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To: iowamark

“Navy Secretary Roy Mabus is the one who was going to be fired and replaced by Joe Sestak if Sestak took Obama’s bribe.

Mabus is also famous for tape recording his first wife’s conversations with her minister to use against her.”

Sounds like a wonderful guy. Just the kind of man we need to level with people during a disaster. (/sarc)


17 posted on 06/30/2010 3:54:41 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert
mabus is a huge leftist commie loving, union hugging thief who was one of the very worst governors this State has ever endured.

LLS

18 posted on 06/30/2010 4:20:43 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: faq

It is all creepy, no?

Hope is failing-— Predicted by the man...


19 posted on 06/30/2010 4:22:27 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: chris37
What if a hurricane pulls the methane up out of the water and then pushes it onto land?

Did you see the video of boiling surf in Pensacola? That’s methane.

Do you know how much methane has been released into the gulf in the past 71 days? Sure, the water is holding much of it down at this time, but what if that changes?

Never say never.


There is no possible weather phenomenon that can selectively extract a gas from water, contain it at sea level, much less concentrate it over hundreds of square miles of water, and deliver it over a hundred miles to land.

Are you imagining the low pressure eye of a hurricane acting like a vacuum sweeper sucking up a giant deadly cloud of methane (without the lightning in the hurricane such as there was in Emily, Katrina, and Rita igniting it) and delivering it to a city? But the air inside the eye is descending and being exchanged into the ascending air of the eye wall. If methane was coming up into the eye from the sea, it would get sucked up into the up-currents of the eye wall. All of the air (and any gasses such as methane it contains) in the eye is constantly being exchanged and flowing out of the hurricane. If it weren't, the low pressure area would cease to be low pressure and the storm would stop.

There have been ships supposedly sunk by being directly over a methane outgassing but that's about it.
20 posted on 06/30/2010 4:52:51 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Qbert

Why are we letting this a-hole and his administation get away with this B.S.

I can’t understand we we aren’t protesting in the streets about this oil spill, this should be job one for everyone in this country, why aren’t we making these people do the right thing.

This is astounding, we have the technology at our disposal to mitigate most of the impact of the oil and virtually nothing is being done and it’s just Ho Hum just another day.

I’m outraged.


21 posted on 06/30/2010 5:05:19 PM PDT by VTenigma
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To: aruanan

Hurricanes make a large dome of water, the storm surge. Hurricanes also disturb and churn waters at deep levels. Perhaps a large pool of methane gas would be scattered harmlessly within a hurricane. Perhaps not.

I certainly hope you are right, but I’m not going to be here to find out first hand.


22 posted on 06/30/2010 5:10:46 PM PDT by chris37
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To: chris37
Hurricanes make a large dome of water, the storm surge.

The principal cause of the storm surge is wind. That's on the leading edge of the hurricane as it approaches land. If a hurricane were to approach directly to the northeast an area like the panhandle of Florida where it breaks to the Florida peninsula, the area on the panhandle side of the hurricane will have a lowering of water due to the wind blowing away from the land; the land on the peninusular side will experience a surge due to the wind blowing toward the land.
23 posted on 06/30/2010 5:57:21 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

That is not necessarily the case, aruanan. From my understanding, storm surge is caused by both wind and low atmospheric pressure. Underneath the hurricane, the level of seawater is actually raised up. While the hurricane is in deeper waters, wind is able to blow some of this water away, but as it approaches shallow waters, the mountain of water builds up as it cannot escape, and then comes ashore as a rapidly rising tide.

But it is the rising sea out in the open that concerns me, because that water is sucked upwards. It is here that I am worried deep pools of escaped methane could come into play. Maybe it will not happen. I certainly hope that this is the case, I don’t want to see anything like this.


24 posted on 06/30/2010 7:39:03 PM PDT by chris37
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To: chris37
From my understanding, storm surge is caused by both wind and low atmospheric pressure.

The lower atmospheric pressure is considered to exert a minor, secondary effect in the formation of the storm surge.

It is here that I am worried deep pools of escaped methane could come into play.

As soon as any methane would leave the sea in the eye of the hurricane, it would rapidly leave the eye with all the other air circulating down through the eye and exit with it up through the eye wall and be dissipated across the hundreds of thousands of square miles of the storm system. Any gas that is released from an relatively gas-impermeable container (like a tank or a balloon or a colon) will rapidly diffuse into the surrounding gases of the atmosphere (this is why a fart smells more intense in a car than in an auditorium).
25 posted on 07/01/2010 3:37:21 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: fooman
MABUS is working on the oil spill???!!!!

Any relation to Jeebus?
26 posted on 07/01/2010 3:38:38 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Mabus is a political hack. He don’t know nuffin from oil spills.


27 posted on 07/01/2010 3:45:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Qbert

a gutless weasel


28 posted on 07/01/2010 3:46:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Mabus is a political hack. He don’t know nuffin from oil spills.

So he's about as real as Homer's Jeebus.
29 posted on 07/01/2010 4:01:17 AM PDT by aruanan
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