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Obama's Rules of Engagement, Not McChrystal's
private email | June 24, 2010 | withheld

Posted on 06/30/2010 6:09:58 PM PDT by Anselma

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The General and the Community Organizer

By [author’s name withheld by Anselma] June 24, 2010

Channel-surfing from ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN through MSNBC and Fox News, the inside-the-beltway pundits had a field day trying to get Inside the heads of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, General Stanley McChrystal, and McChrystal's top aides. The one thing common to all Of the analyses, by the most famous and highly-paid talking heads in The Western World, was that they are all wrong. Dead wrong. What is Certain is that they all owe General McChrystal and his senior aides An apology for assuming that they are lame-brained numbskulls.

The facts of the McChrystal case are not in dispute. General McChrystal and his senior officers allowed a reporter for Rolling Stone Magazine, Michael Hastings, to have almost unprecedented access During an extended stay in Paris. The extended stay was due, in part, To an excess of atmospheric ash from Iceland's Eyjafjallajokull Volcano, keeping the McChrystal party grounded for days.

In an interview with CNN, Hastings reported that he had a tape Recorder in his hand most of the time and that McChrystal was "very Aware" that his comments would find their way into print. He said, "McChrystal and his people set no ground rules for their Conversations, although they did ask that some parts of their Conversations were off the record." Hastings subsequently published a Lengthy profile of General McChrystal on June 22, titled, The Runaway General.

As Hastings wrote in his profile, McChrystal thought that Obama looked "uncomfortable and intimidated" by the roomful of military brass During their first meeting. Of their second meeting, an advisor to McChrystal quoted the general as saying that it was "a 10-minute photo op." He went on to say, "Obama clearly didn't know anything about (McChrystal), who he was. Here's the guy who's going to run his f_ _ _ing war, but he didn't seem very engaged. The Boss was pretty Disappointed."

As General McChrystal flew from Afghanistan to Washington to face Obama in the Oval Office, the almost unanimous opinion of the talking Heads was that the comments made by McChrystal and his staff were off The cuff and inadvertent. But to believe that is to totally ignore Who these men are.

General McChrystal and his top officers are not simple-minded, knuckle- Dragging brutes. To the contrary, they are intelligent, thoughtful, Highly educated, patriots. Graduates of West Point and other fine Universities. Who are dedicated to duty, honor, and country. To think That such men would be so careless as to speak unflatteringly of Obama, Biden, and other top administration figures, in the presence of a reporter for a notoriously left wing publication, defies logic. At The very least. To think that men who are trained to be careful and Deliberate in everything they do, could do something so Careless and so unguarded is simply beyond comprehension.

I would argue that McChrystal and his aides knew exactly what they Were doing.

From the day that he became the handpicked "spear carrier" for Obama's unique brand of warfare. Playing at being Commander in Chief While playing to his far left constituency. McChrystal's life had been One of constant frustration. After telling Obama exactly how many Troops he needed to carry out his mission, Obama dithered for months Before deciding to give him just half the troops he requested. McChrystal could not have been happy about that.

The Obama team insisted on new Rules of Engagement designed to reduce Collateral damage (civilian casualties). Obama's ROE (Rules of Engagement) Required that U.S. Troops must be able to see the enemy with Weapon in hand before They were allowed to return fire. One videotape circulated on the Internet showed a platoon of Marines pinned down by enemy sniper Fire. But since the enemy was firing from some distance behind the Open window of a building, the Marines could not actually see the Weapon being fired. Although they were taking deadly fire, they were Prohibited by the ROE from putting small arms fire or an RPG Through the window opening.

Under Obama's politically correct ROE, our soldiers and Marines were Required to fight with one hand tied behind their backs. McChrystal Could not have been happy about that.

A strict new interrogation policy, dictated by Attorney General Eric Holder, required that prisoners must be delivered to an Interrogation Center within twenty-four hours of being captured or be released. A Great deal of actionable intelligence was lost as a result and battle- Hardened enemy fighters were returned to the field to kill Americans. McChrystal must have found that to be incomprehensible.

But the greatest insult to our troops in the field, and to the Officers who lead them, may be a new battlefield medal designed by the Obama team. It is called the Courageous Restraint Medal and is awarded to soldiers and Marines who demonstrate uncommon restrain in combat by not firing their weapons even when they feel threatened by the enemy. Would we be surprised to learn that the preponderance of these medals were awarded posthumously? McChrystal must have found that to be an insanity.

I suggest that, having his best military judgments subjected to the White House political sieve for nearly a year and a half, McChrystal decided that he'd had enough. And when he announced to his senior staff that he was prepared to retire they decided to push back to make the most of a bad situation. It was clear that, if McChrystal were to simply take off his uniform and walk away, his retirement would be page-twenty news for a day or two before the mainstream media and the American people forgot all about him.

They had to make the most of his retirement because it provided a one- time opportunity to show the American people, as well as our enemies and our allies, that the man who claims the title of Commander in Chief of the U.S. military does not command the respect of our men and women in uniform. To make the most of that opportunity they had to choose their messenger very carefully.

They knew that, by openly showing their disrespect for Obama in front of just any newsman, they may not attract the attention they desired. Like any astute observer of the MSM, they knew that most reporters would turn on their own mothers if it meant a good story. But they could not take a chance that a mainstream media reporter might suffer a rare pang of conscience when confronted with the prospect of ruining the careers of some of the most senior officers in the War on Terror. They had to fix the odds as much as possible in their favor so they chose to use Michael Hastings and Rolling Stone Magazine.

During the long hours that General McChrystal was in the air between Kabul and Washington, Obama knew that he had just two choices, both bad. He could declare McChrystal to be an irreplaceable asset in the war effort, give him a public reprimand, and send him back to Kabul. Or he could fire McChrystal, sending a clear message that at least in his own mind, he was the Commander in Chief.

In the former case, he was certain to appear weak and ineffectual. A man not totally in charge. In the latter case, he might at least win a few rave reviews from the Kool-Ade drinkers in the mainstream media. He chose the latter of the two options.

But what is now lost in all of the hand-wringing and speculation is the fact that McChrystal and his people have succeeded in doing exactly what they set out to do. They wanted to plant the seed in the minds of the American people that Obama is not up to the task of being Commander in Chief and that he does not command the respect of the men and women of the uniformed services from the newest Private E-1 up to the top four-star generals and admirals.

That seed is now firmly planted and it cannot be unplanted.

From this day forward, no one will have to tell the American people that Stanley McChrystal is a true warrior, a man's man, and that Barack Obama is nothing more than a community organizer. Well done, General!


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; mcchrystal; obama; petraeus
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To: RC2

“The problem Obama has is.....what is he going to do with over 600,000 troops back in the U.S? There are no jobs for them. They can vote when they get home and he knows which way they will vote. I would be surprised if this thing lasted another two years.”

Now that’s worth thinking about. And don’t think they’re not puzzling over that one.
These jokers make it up as they go along, then find things never quite work out the way they’d theorized. They haven’t got a long-view thinker among them. We already saw that Team O wanted to start a ‘domestic army’. That didn’t go over too well, the Constitution being what it is ... But it seems that would have been their ‘solution’ to us being their ‘problem’.


41 posted on 06/30/2010 8:04:35 PM PDT by Anselma
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To: mazda77

“Your whole outlook on the world changes when someone is shooting at your arse”

I have a healthy respect for what you said. I bow to your greater experience and TG I haven’t had it.


42 posted on 06/30/2010 8:09:25 PM PDT by Anselma
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To: TigersEye

I posted this because I find it extremely interesting and want other’s views. I have my own views on parts of it, however, for example, it’s my own idea about a deal between McC and O re ‘early retirement’.
No apologies necessary!


43 posted on 06/30/2010 8:16:55 PM PDT by Anselma
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To: Conservative9

Courageous restraint medal? If ever a medal was created to be rewarded posthumously, this is it.


44 posted on 06/30/2010 8:21:55 PM PDT by chuckee (Krugman lied, the economy died)
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To: TigersEye

“That is very simple. He could have resigned and told the President, privately, why.”

It’s my understanding that there were rumbles about these stupid ROE for a while, but nothing was done to change them. I would imagine that McChrystal conveyed such to Resident Obama, previously. So maybe this ‘exit’ was meant to take advantage of the situation, gain publicity, and scrap the ROE? I’m just wondering, is all. If McC just resigned quietly and told O privately, why, then nothing would change. Guessing.


45 posted on 06/30/2010 8:24:16 PM PDT by Anselma
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To: chuckee

Good one, chuckee. Like your tagline also. Krugman is a weasel of the lowest order.


46 posted on 06/30/2010 8:28:55 PM PDT by Anselma
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To: Anselma

One very important thing would have changed. Gen. McChrystal would not have been in charge of executing 0baMao’s orders.


47 posted on 06/30/2010 8:44:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Hillbillary; All
You post, wistfully? ;”And all of a sudden Petraeus has the luxury of changing the ROE as if it was McCrystal’s rules. Why didn't Petraeus change the ROE a year ago?”

Sorry, folks. REALLY sorry as my dear grandson that I raised is fighting under these traitorous rules meant to protect the CICINO’s REAL friends, the Taliban.

"Incoming Afghan commander Gen. David Petraeus told senators today at his confirmation hearing that he has no intention of changing the rules of engagement or the “tactical directive,” which guides the use of air strikes, put in place by his predecessor."

Read more: http://defensetech.org/2010/06/29/no-real-change-coming-to-afghan-roe-or-tactical-directive-petraeus/#ixzz0sOm5cfLK
Defense.org

48 posted on 06/30/2010 8:51:47 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Conservative9
As a father of a soldier serving with special forces in Afghanistan, here is what I think. If McCrystall really has a problem with the ROE, if they really were not his rules (he has been quoted several times in various publications saying they were necessary), if he really thinks Obama is dangerous to his men, if he really loves his troops, if he is really a patriot, if he is really a man he would just go the cameras and warn the American people by speaking clearly instead of this charade with a liberal rag.

Sorry but a man with all the intelligence, conviction, and love for his men that you all say he has would just stand up and say this is wrong, his career be damned. Our sons lives are shown to be nothing but cheap resources while the General plays his game.

Exactly.

that is how a man of honor would do it. I had been praying - as the grandmother who raised a soldier who is in his second deployment in a unit that is "the point of the spear" , I had been praying that McCrystal AND other officers - even Petreaus - would stand up together and expose these traitorous ROE's for what they are. If they had all gone, in a block, to DC and said they would all publicly stand against these rules - what could obummer do? One, he could fire them all, which he wouldn't dare do.

He would never have dared risk the fire storm of having a block of top officers - from MULLEN on down - publically threatening to retire en masse and exploding the issue for all the world to see.

I wonder if they had presented him, quietly, with the choice of rescinding the ROE or having a public fight he would not win, if he wouldn't have backed down.

I doubt even his blind narcissism would have held up to that.

49 posted on 06/30/2010 9:10:00 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Hillbillary
Why didn't Petraeus change the ROE a year ago?

Maybe because he was a little busy - battling cancer?

50 posted on 06/30/2010 9:13:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: mazda77
I suspicion you are right.

His rigidity in his daily regimen was spookily stark -

Reportedly, he ran 7-8 miles a day, ate only one meal and slept only 4 hours a night....

51 posted on 06/30/2010 9:26:45 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: mazda77

“Your whole outlook on the world changes when someone is shooting at your arshe! Honor and respect takes on a whole new meaning.”

yep

http://www.restrepothemovie.com/


52 posted on 06/30/2010 9:41:47 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Gumption; Anselma; mazda77; chuckee

Article on Courageous Restraint Medal.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/world/Medal-for-_courageous-restraint_-plan-get-mixed-review-from-troops-93007014.html


53 posted on 07/01/2010 3:54:05 AM PDT by CaliGirl-R
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To: Anselma
McChrystal is legally entitled to his retirement whether he retires or is fired by Obama, so that played no part in this.

I don't believe McM is a fool. Only a fool would have idly badmouthed Obama & Co. to ROLLING STONE w/o good reason. The email author here makes a good argument as to McM’s intentions.

I expect McM to hit the talk & speakers circuit soon. That will be the tell as to why he did this. If he doesn't, that will be telling, too: He WAS a blabbermouth fool.

54 posted on 07/01/2010 4:08:13 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: maine-iac7

I agree completely. But, that does not follow their normal and necessary chain of command. However, these are unique and critical times which call for bold action like we saw in our founding fathers. Did these Generals tell Obama his ROE where so ludacris and dangerous they would not carry them out? Obviously not. I am quickly losing respect for the there military politicians.


55 posted on 07/01/2010 5:19:46 AM PDT by Conservative9
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To: Mister Da

“McChrystal is legally entitled to his retirement whether he retires or is fired by Obama, so that played no part in this.”

Oh HO! I beg to differ! I just heard this morning (day after my posting this) that McChrystal could and would have retired at the 3-star level, but it was too early for him to get retirement at the 4-star level. So that makes sense, no? Still a backroom Obama deal

What’s bothering me now is this: Is it true Petraeus promised Congress NOT to change the ROE? Or had they already been changed,say, just before he said that, so he was safe?


56 posted on 07/01/2010 9:04:18 AM PDT by Anselma
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