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Obama to Deliver Major Speech on Immigration (Obama to demand amnesty before securing the border)
fox news ^ | 7/1/2010 | ap

Posted on 07/01/2010 3:24:32 AM PDT by tobyhill

President Barack Obama hopes to rally new momentum behind the push for an immigration overhaul by explaining why he thinks a comprehensive approach is the only way to fix what he and others say is a system badly in need of repair.

Obama was laying out his rationale in a speech Thursday, his first as president on the issue.

Obama wasn't expected to announce any new proposals or policy changes. But feeling pressure from a range of supporters, he was aiming to jump-start the effort he had promised to make a priority in his first year and which advocates had hoped would be completed by now.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegalinvasion; illegalmeansillegal; illegalpresident; immigrantlist; immigration; ineligible; invaders; itstheillegalsstupid; notimmigrants; notimmigration; obama; sealtheborder; usurper

1 posted on 07/01/2010 3:24:38 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
Will he also demand all the oil be cleaned out of the Gulf before pluggin the Damn hole?
2 posted on 07/01/2010 3:28:02 AM PDT by Shqipo (I stand with AZ!)
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To: tobyhill

Bravo Sierra


3 posted on 07/01/2010 3:29:14 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: tobyhill
Illegal Alien

Let's see, Obama could only attend elementary school in Indonesia as a "citizen" ... Is he even a citizen of the USA? Is he so identified with illegal aliens because he is one??

4 posted on 07/01/2010 3:30:08 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: missnry

yes, it may well draw unwanted attention to that topic...


5 posted on 07/01/2010 3:35:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: All

FUBO


6 posted on 07/01/2010 3:36:18 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: tobyhill
Why is this written as if had already given the speech?
7 posted on 07/01/2010 3:36:43 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: tobyhill

Heis going to anounce all Illegals are going to become citizens with immediate voting rights as the Rats need the votes this November and November 2012.

Welcome to Obamaville, USSA.


8 posted on 07/01/2010 3:39:13 AM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: tobyhill; All

i had a thought as i was listening to this crap tonight...

what if a group of citizens got together... and established a project to get the land along the border donated to the project. just about 100-200 feet deep and as far along the border as possible. and in the sections where there is at least 1 mile of contiguous land, start building a proper wall... with appropriate monitoring stations.

this would help increase the property value of those properties along the border, since they would be more secure, and may even generate some revenue... as the govt would have to pay a certain number per foot along the border (the govt would spend more building the wall themselves)

the work crews would be 20 man teams and would work on 1/4 mile sections. maybe 500-1000 teams (shouldn’t be any shortage of labor these days).

maybe put this on the internet and let the community solve every aspect of it... showing what people can do, especially compared to the gov’t.

this might be a bit half baked... but this was the beginnings of a thought. i think it would have potential of becoming reality, considering the number of people that are for the wall. maybe it could take donations, managed by some big 6 firm, and the books would be open for the public to see.

thoughts??


9 posted on 07/01/2010 3:41:23 AM PDT by sten
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To: Red_Devil 232

The teleprompter leaked the speach.


10 posted on 07/01/2010 3:42:01 AM PDT by Not a 60s Hippy (They are SOCIALISTS, not Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, Special interest groups.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

It’s sourced from the AP (Amerikan Propaganda). They got the fax from the White House, so why waste time writing two articles?


11 posted on 07/01/2010 3:44:36 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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To: tobyhill
(Obama to demand amnesty before securing the border)

Even if we were to give in to this extortion, considering his record for breaking his word all of the time, why should we believe that he will follow through on his side of the bargain?

12 posted on 07/01/2010 3:44:47 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: tobyhill

close the border first.the go fir reform


13 posted on 07/01/2010 3:47:16 AM PDT by screaming eagle2 (bama)
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To: lowbridge

he won’t


14 posted on 07/01/2010 3:48:22 AM PDT by screaming eagle2 (bama)
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To: lowbridge

he won’t


15 posted on 07/01/2010 3:48:22 AM PDT by screaming eagle2 (bama)
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To: ncfool

WAKE UP AMERICA



16 posted on 07/01/2010 3:53:11 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: screaming eagle2

no reform. reform is code for amnesty. deport. it can be done.
just like the bp oil spill, it will take time to clean up.


17 posted on 07/01/2010 3:57:26 AM PDT by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: All
Vote-starved endangered Dems are lusting for latino votes that they hope will keep them (or bring them) in office. I got news----it did not work for NJ Dem Corzine in 2009. Ohaha and Corzine pulled out all the stops for latino votes......but the calculated strategy flopped bigtime.

AMNESTY AND DEM LOSERS Ohaha's carefully laid plans for installing a permanent Dem Majority of amnestied illegals----might look like this flopola: Ohaha was heavly invested in the NJ gubernatorial race---one of only two statewide 2009 races w/ VA.

OBAMA WAS DESPERATE FOR NJ's CORZINE TO WIN W/ ILLEGAL VOTES--- Obama put the power of the WH machine behind Corzine.

The NY Times reported :
(a) every TV ad Corzine put on the air was being screened by Obama's WH team.
(b) Corzine's aides gave the WH daily briefings.
(c) Obama’s pollsters took over for Corzine’s polling team, and,
(d) White House operatives were on the ground for internal strategy sessions,

Vote-starved Democrats rigged the election with latino votes (so they thought)

(e) White House operatives were orchestrating obscure pep rallies with Latinos (kept secret from voters),
(f) Corzine had a "Peruvian Pac" endorsing him.
(g) Ohaha campaigned in the state three times, Biden was there twice. Ohaha TV ads ran relentlessly.
(h) Corzine promised to give illegals ‘driving credentials’ & in-state tuition.
(i) Corzine sucked up to illegal immigrants and REFUSED to enforce current immigration laws
(j)Corzine formed a Blue Ribbon committee of hypenates using tax dollars to mine votes for Corzine.
(k)Also sucking up to illegals was Sen Robert Menendez, a Corzine campaigner.

OTHER SALIENT POINTS

>> Incumbent Dem Jon Corzine (the wealthy loser) outspent the Repub winner Chris Chirstie about 4-1.
>> New Jersey has a huge Democratic registration.
>> Corzine bragged he had 20,000 paid union helpers on the ground election day to get out the vote.
>> There was a third party candidate siphoning off Republican votes.
>> Corzine had the power of incumbency.
>> Corzine had the power of a crooked Democrat Machine cooking the vote.
>> Ohaha hid $17.5 BILLION stimlulus in New Jersey.....for Corzine's reelection campaign.

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NEW JERSEY IS IDENTITY FRAUD CENTRAL FOR LATINOS
Two Texans busted in bogus ID operation in NJ

NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- July 21, 2006 -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, authorities said. The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force, regularly runs checks.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards.

AND THIS The winning Republican Lt Governor candidate, former County Sheriff Kim Guadagno, had applied for the federal 287(g) program, which sought to question every inmate coming to the County jail about his/her immigration status, regardless of the offense. Then-Sheriff Guadagno said she wanted to ensure that "illegal criminals" were not unduly released for fear of further harm to the community. The 287(g) program would provide the Sheriff with personnel and tools to punish individuals being held at the County jail (even if they do not meet the criteria set forth by Corzine's sucking up to illegals). Illegals lacerated Sheriff Guadagno for political pandering and for scouting incidents of indictable offenses such as driving under the influence by undocumented immigrants. She won state office, anyway.

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CONCLUSION Pulling out all the stops for Corzine made Ohaha a VERY good target for those disgusted with Ohaha’s policies. The New Jersey race was the shape of things to come for dumbo Dems. The Ovomitons know they are headed into a Republican tsunami.........in 2010-12.

18 posted on 07/01/2010 3:58:37 AM PDT by Liz
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To: tobyhill

See Greta Van Sustern’s interview with Ksrl Rove on the subject last night. Karl presented a chronology of the “O” remarks on immigration throughout his term. He has never once laid the foundation for such legislation and only mentions it when it serves his interests. He is a liar and unfit for public office. Hell, I wouldn’t even let this guy pour me a cup of coffee (not that he’s ever really worked)


19 posted on 07/01/2010 4:13:51 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!)
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To: SueRae
He is a liar and unfit for public office.

Obozo is an Alinsky communist....and mooslum - of course he's a liar!

20 posted on 07/01/2010 4:17:46 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: sten
Not a bad idea but the costs would be astronomical. Not because it costs that much to build a wall, but because deep-pocket organizations would file suit over ever yard of fence, plus Obama would have his “Justice Department” go after you as well. He's going to try to break the State of Arizona in this way. Line up your pro bono legal help first to have a chance.
21 posted on 07/01/2010 4:20:12 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: patriot08

Gonna round you up and send you to a re-education camp there young lady.


22 posted on 07/01/2010 4:51:58 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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To: sten

I like the idea. But you can see how Gov Jindal wanted to build sand berms to protect the Louisiana environment from Gulf oil — and the federal government just wouldn’t allow it. Building a wall would be great, but the feds won’t allow it to happen.


23 posted on 07/01/2010 5:00:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Shqipo

“Will he also demand all the oil be cleaned out of the Gulf before pluggin the Damn hole?”

Brilliant analogy.


24 posted on 07/01/2010 5:11:16 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: tobyhill
Major speech indeed. I'm reminded of the major award in Christmas Story.
25 posted on 07/01/2010 5:14:00 AM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will continue to have more relevant quality executive experience than B. Obama.)
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To: tobyhill
Isn't it cute that he wants immediate amnesty? Could be they might need the votes in about 5 months, huh?

EVERYONE has said that you should "stop the leak" (close the borders) before you attempt anything to "fix" immigration. If you declare amnesty with the borders still open, two things will happen:
(1) obama won't keep his word, the borders will never be closed, and;
(2) The rest of the mexicans - seeing all the "instant amnesty" going on, will come across by the millions.

We defeated Bush and McAmnesty by public outcry, and we need to do it tenfold for our "illegal alien" president.

THIS has GOT to stop...somewhere.
26 posted on 07/01/2010 5:22:07 AM PDT by FrankR ( If we don't win in November, welcome to the United Socialist States of America.)
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To: newfreep

This is why when someone calls me a Conservative I say Thank you. When I call them a Liberal, they make all kinds of excuses. Like everything else in their lives, they were trained in school to lie about who they really are.


27 posted on 07/01/2010 5:27:57 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Conservatives are producers. Liberals are parasites)
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To: tobyhill
Yes, Immigration “Reform”; Crisis; Dire threat to the deficit if we continue to allow this to go as it is; People dying and starving; Only way the economy can recover is we don't act NOW; Yadda; Yadda; Yadda, Blah, Blahblahblah!

(Executive Privilege anyone?) (Any bets?)

28 posted on 07/01/2010 5:34:09 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: ClearCase_guy; libertylover; All

ok... so what if we purchased the land... on the mexican side? of course, you wouldn’t tell them what it’s for or the actual owners, as you’d buy it through shell companies. you could tell them you might run irrigation pipes through the area... which might be accurate...

2,000 miles of border
200 feet deep.
26.4 acres per mile.
52,800 acres. assuming average cost under $1000/acre... $52m for the land in mexico.

almost seems like a small number considering the numbers they through around these days.


29 posted on 07/01/2010 5:40:52 AM PDT by sten
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To: tobyhill
The importance for amnesty to be granted to the criminals poor  undocumented immigrants who wish to become sponges of the welfare system good wholesome American citizens cannot be overstated.  These people only wish to become productive citizens who will cheat the system do the work that Americans won't do.

We welcome these Democrat voters  new American citizens.

Signed,

Obama (HMFWIC)

30 posted on 07/01/2010 6:44:18 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

That’s how the communists always work; Welcome to Pravda.

So this means no sanctuary cities.

BTW, will the gov’t jobs numbers go up re: processing and does it include illegals from terror countries?

I think it does.

Impeach.


31 posted on 07/01/2010 7:19:51 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray. Stop Barrystroika.)
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To: Hacklehead

I see you understand Obama logic,he has only one state of mind confused.


32 posted on 07/01/2010 7:28:07 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

“I see you understand Obama logic,he has only one state of mind confused.”

Obama is easy to understand. He is a true believer of leftist ideology. He accepts it lock stock and barrel. Everything he says and does is right out of the radical leftist playbook.


33 posted on 07/01/2010 7:45:00 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Hacklehead

Agree the utopia hand book readers never progress to sane ideas.


34 posted on 07/01/2010 7:59:32 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

The idiot-in-chief is speaking now. I had to turn down the volume so that I don’t start a major cuss-a-thon. I can’t stand the grating stupidity of his voice, let alone the illogical blather that he recites off of the telepromptor.

On a side note, I see that the DOW is down 130 points or so right now. If old conventions hold true, it will drop for the duration of his speech.


35 posted on 07/01/2010 8:21:09 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: meyer

It will drop for the duration of his term.Obamaville is here for a long time.


36 posted on 07/01/2010 8:28:53 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: meyer

Dow is down: Everything truly American recoils in revulsion at the sight and sound of the fraud.
It’s how we know the enemy is at work.
We are sickened by it.


37 posted on 07/01/2010 9:16:20 AM PDT by two23 (Everything About Them Is a Lie)
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To: sten

The Feds SHOULD put a stop to this INVASION by any means necessary, but they won’t. I’m just saying a small group couln’t afford to do what needs to be done and stay within the law.


38 posted on 07/01/2010 3:29:30 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Hacklehead

>>>Brilliant analogy.<<<

—Thank you. Now if only a Pub in DC could start mouthing such common sense.


39 posted on 07/01/2010 4:06:23 PM PDT by Shqipo (I stand with AZ!)
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