Skip to comments.The Unlikeable Palin
Posted on 07/02/2010 6:07:54 PM PDT by pissant
Outside of Republicans, shes not popular at all. According to our NBC/WSJ poll, just 29% view her favorably, compared with 43% who view her unfavorably (not far from George W. Bushs 29%-50% score). In addition, the poll shows that 52% have problems with a candidate who has been endorsed by Palin, versus only 25% who are comfortable with that attribute. Weve said it before and well say it again: Palin is more of a political celebrity than a political figure. ~First Read
This is true, but there is nothing here about Palin that we know now that we didnt already know a year or a year and a half ago. Her unfavorables among non-Republicans have gone up steadily since the Republican convention in 2008, and outside of a dedicated core of admirers and a few critics no one is taking her political chances seriously. This is the same as it has been for a very long time. As Josh Green notes, it would normally be absurd to think that someone with a 14-point favorability deficit was a serious presidential contender, and there arent that many non-partisans who think that she is anything of the kind. The reality is that the more independents and Democrats see of Palin, the less they like. In a country where these people make up at least 65% of the electorate, Palin is essentially unelectable in a general election. This isnt a difficult call to make. The question to which we dont know the answer yet is whether the GOP is so willfully blind to this reality and so bent on self-destruction in 2012 that the party nominates her anyway. For all of the reasons I have given before, I very much doubt that Republicans are this foolish. It is possible that the GOP will decide
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Every candidate that she has endorsed ends up winning.
You said it before I did. And, I think the Dems are scared to death of her, that’s why they hate her so.
Your Post #8 is “RIGHT ON”
That kind of reminds of Baby Bush.
As Ron Paul pointed out, Baby Bush was against nation building before he was for it.
That is the best foreign policy observation Ron Paul ever made, as I disagree with Ron Paul as much on foreign policy as I agree with him on economic policy.
You may start with her education
What would you consider the minimum qualifications to be?
During the 2000 campaign, Bush actually got caught not knowing who Pervez Musharraf was. He sure as hell found out, didn't he!
Jindal is not a Natural Born Citizen.
If Jindal gets traction in 2012, your gay definition of NBC will matter not a whit, especially since the Obama precedent has already been set in concrete.
I agree, Palin is quite likable in much the same way as Reagan. She’ll win converts by the bushel when the time is right. The right time will be between the nominating convention and the 2012 elections.
Especially because of it. Double standards are a Democrat specialty.
Just nobody out there willing to take on the right people and say the right things like Sarah Palin. Until that changes she’s got my complete support.
It’s just hard to believe she hasn’t won more people over with her right on point attacks on the liberal agenda.
It’s not surprising that the majority of FReepers love and adore Sarah Palin. But we do not sway elections. Yes, Democrats fear her .. but so do Independents. Without the latter, you don’t win elections.
“Every candidate she has endorsed ends up winning” a Republican primary. Who, exactly, votes in Republican primaries? ta da .. conservatives! I don’t recall her being involved in either VA or NJ last year for the general, statewide elections, and can’t recall her endorsing either man at the top of the ticket. IIRC, the VA candidate asked her to stay out of the race, so that scenario is more likely in bluer NJ.
We won’t even know for sure after the ‘10 elections how her Right endorsements played because of the historically high anti-incumbent sentiment.
Right now there is no one on the GOP horizon that *I* would rather see carry the GOP banner in ‘12, but, frankly, I don’t think she can win. Not without a seachange in attitudes across the USA. I fear she’s been successfully Borked or Quayled. And I think she knows that but will use her influence where it can do some good.
So what you are looking for is a candidate who doesn’t make waves such as not telling Boma where he is wrong,
tells the MSM what they want to hear so they don’t attack
No thanks, I will support Sarah Palin who can take care of herself vs. the MSM .
I don’t let the MSM tell me who to support
That independent equals moderate is leftist propaganda (from Democrats and from RINOS).
The focus guy on FoxNews has shown that independents are NOT moderates, and that the vast majority of independents are conservative, far more conservative than either the Democrat communists or the RINO "moderates".
Palin hasn’t run for any national office except VP, and that was in McCain’s shadow so there was a limit on how bright she could shine. If she grabbed for the brass ring in earnest, her positive numbers would shoot up like a rocket.
So she's spending tons of money building a National network and an online presence, endorsing candidates all over the country, and unleashing daily broadsides against Obama all for her own amusement?
I think not. The lady has a carefully calculated plan and it leads up to a Presidential run. Heck she's telegraphed it all in the last chapters of Going Rogue, but nobody wants to take her at her word, which is as good as golden.
I want the best and the brightest not a damn peasant running this country.
Typical of someone who has no answer or knows his weakness, answer a question with a question.
Look, I guess you’re just not going to answer the question. What are her qualifications? Fine, so you think education doesn’t matter, now what?
First, thank you for actually addressing the question.
What the hell is with you guys and your Ivy League nonsense? Is that what you think of when you think best and brightest? Ivy League doesn't mean best and brightest. I want best and brightest from University of Kentucky for example. I don't care.
My ideal candidate will be a Midwesterner that has graduated at the top of his or her class from a, let us say, Big Ten university in economics with an MBA. Someone who doesn't think foreign policy experience is being neighbors with Russia. Someone who has good solid ideas that are founded in free markets and low taxes. Someone who understands today's family.
I don't care where they graduate from, I want the best and the brightest. I don't want average Jane or peasant Paul as my president.
We are far to advanced economically for a school teacher to be president. THEY MUST HAVE A ECONOMICS OR BUSINESS BACKGROUND IN MY BOOK! Maybe from the University of Michigan or even Purdue. How about, Notre Dame? Wherever, BUT THE BEST. Not bottom of his class like idiot McCain.
LOL! Nice, but not what I had in mind.
I did answer your question: her education is a PhD from the School of Hard Knocks.
She put *herself* through school, not relying on affirmative action and (possibly) Saudi princes to skate through.
Many more people will relate to that after a few years of Obama's economy, than will be impressed by Ivy League credentials which led to the CDO / derivatives boondoggle.
Reagan was right -- "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problems: government is the problem."
So more than education is needed : rather, spunk and wisdom.
You can always appoint skilled advisors (e.g. Bolton on foreign affairs) :-)
Sarah Palin is overflowing with both.
And as for experience, she's been governor of a US state, and has dealt firsthand with the Washington/Manhattan Axis, and the whole smear machine. See Andrew Sullivan for more.
So again, where's *your* Ph.D. and what is it in?
He once helped run state government in Juneau, played shortstop in a local softball league, and he still votes as an Alaska resident.Another fact not generally known is that Mao Tse Tung admirer and former WH Communications Director Anita Dunn was a campaign advisor for former Alaska governor Tony Knowles in both his 2004 Senate run and his 2006 gubernatorial bid against Sarah Palin.
But these days, Pete Rouse works in the White House, two doors from his close friend, President Barack Obama.
When the shock of Palin's nomination hit the Obama team, Dunn was the first person consulted and warned Team Obama not to underestimate her. They didn't, even while they worked with their media lackeys to make sure the clueless dolts in the public did.
This is the USA. Some of our "damn peasants" are the best and brightest. That is what makes us the USA, and what has set us apart from the rest of the world, and from the rest of human history.
You would probably be shocked at the lack of formal education of some of our best statesmen among the founders, framers, and former presidents.
The Meaningless Box Checkers amongst us will never understand that. They buy into the notion that today's college professors and today's so-called elite Universities are the center of real world common sense, experience and knowledge.
Just nobody out there willing to take on the right people and say the right things like Sarah Palin.
Jim DeMint for one. Hunter for another. Newt. Steve King. Bachmann.
Not if truth is to reign.
"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.
* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.
* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.
* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.
"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.
In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."
[Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.]
The Massachusetts Republican Party died last Tuesday.
The cause of death: failed leadership.
The party is survived by a few leftover legislators
and a handful of county officials and grassroots activists
who have been ignored for years.
Services will be public and a mass exodus of taxpayers will follow.
In lieu of flowers, send messages to Republican voters
warning them about a certain presidential candidate named Romney.
- Boston Herald, 11/12/2006
"In 2006, while Romney was chairman of the National Republican
Governors Association - a group dedicated to electing more
Republican governors - his own hand-picked Republican successor
as governor lost badly to the Democrat, despite the fact that Republicans
have held the governorship in Massachusetts since 1990. Romney largely
ignored the Massachusetts elections and spent most of the time
during the campaign out of state building his presidential campaign.
He came back and publicly campaigned for the Republican candidate
the day before the general election!
Locally, this is a rebuke to Mitt Romney and checking out within six months
after being elected and having accomplished almost nothing,
[Jim] Rappaport [former chairman of the state Republican Party]."
- Boston Globe, 11/8/2006
"Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans,
has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced,
instead tapping registered Democrats or independents -- including two gay lawyers who
have supported expanded same-sex rights, a Globe review of the nominations has found.
Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats
or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians
or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show.
In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters,
and 14 registered Democrats."
- Boston Globe 7/25/2005
Romney Rewards one of the State's Leading Anti-Marriage Attorneys by Making him a Judge
Romney told the U.S. Senate on June 22, 2004, that the "real threat to the States is not the
constitutional amendment process, in which the states participate,
but activist judges who disregard the law and redefine marriage . . ."
Romney sounds tough but yet he had no qualms advancing the legal career of one
of the leading anti-marriage attorneys. He nominated Stephen Abany to a District Court.
Abany has been a key player in the Massachusetts Lesbian and Gay Bar Association which,
in its own words, is "dedicated to ensuring that the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court decision
on marriage equality is upheld, and that any anti-gay amendment or legislation is defeated."
- U.S. Senate testimony by Gov. Mitt Romney, 6/22/2004 P>
"Romney announces he won't fill judicial vacancies before term ends
Despite his rhetoric about judicial activism, Romney announced that
he won't fill all the remaining vacancies during his term - but instead
leave them for his liberal Democrat successor!
Governor Mitt Romney pledged yesterday not to make a flurry of lame-duck
judicial appointments in the final days of his administration . . . David Yas,
editor of Lawyers Weekly, said Romney is "bucking tradition" by resisting the urge to
fill all remaining judgeships. "It is a tradition for governors to use that power to appoint judges
aggressively in the waning moments of their administration," Yas said.
He added that Romney has been criticized for failing to make judicial appointments.
"The legal community has consistently criticized him for not filling open seats quickly enough
and being a little too painstaking in the process and being dismissive of the input of the
Judicial Nominating Commission," Yas said.
I’m not going to get drawn into an exchange in which we end up running down good people. Suffice it to say that in my opinion nobody has had the impact in the last year that Palin has had in taking on conventional liberal wisdom or the Obama Administration in direct frontal assaults.
She managed, for example, with one Facebook paragraph, to derail the entire sales rollout for ObamaCare last Fall. And this Spring she got Obama in such a pantie twist over the oil spill he had to come off the golf course and hold a press conference. Out of her Facebook page pours a steady stream of conservative wit, wisdom, and philosophy. Drop by and you’ll see that several times a week she offers up relevent commentary on key issues of the moment.
If we agree to disagree so be it. Palin is my gold standard. The only one who comes close is Liz Cheney, but she doesn’t have Palin’s experience.
I’ve seen her relevant commentary. Some if it is very good. Some mundane. Just as I’ve seen many others’.
Has she urged a no vote on Kagan yet? Getting the Secure Fence Act re-funded? The China threat? The continuing loss of men to IEDs? Amnesty? North Korea? Iran? Anchor babies? The disastrous arms agreements with Russia? McCain’s malfeasance? Don’t Ask Don’t Tell? The Queer Agenda? Honduras? The FCC? The IMF bailout? The Obama land grabs?
Well, now. That's a start.
Someone qualified to be president should be sufficiently well educated to know instantly that the term
best and brightest is snarky shorthand for exactly the types who should not be in policy-making positions.
It is all about marketing and Romney can be marketed
as a pro-business jobs creating candidate
Not if truth is to reign.
This is politics, can you cite any examples of when truth reigns?
Get real, dude.
Reading is a skill. I have posted that I believe Palin will be the first female POTUS. I do not think that it will happen 2012.
My tagline use to read: "if you are getting heavy flak you know you are over the target"...and that was in reference to Sarah...'nuff said. :o)
Sarah Palin= Antidote to Communism
Please explain how here credentials make her presidential material?
You may start with her education
Her credentials and experience speak for themselves. As to education, she went to school. So did Ronald Reagan. George Washington had little education. Not fancy schools but that shows how important expensive schools are. For example, look what Harvard has given us? The Clintons and Obama, and many more horror stories. God help us.
Your statement is ridiculous. So qualification for president comes from how much money you spent to go to school, eh? No, sorry, it does not. Why don’t you attack Ronald Reagan then?? The last REAL president we had and we will not see another of that caliber in our life time. He got a bachelor’s degree from Eureka College in Illinois.
Qualification to lead comes from the person, the heart, and experience. The learning comes from real interaction with government and the ability to interact with, and read people. It comes from caring about your country, patriotism, and the desire to work and accomplish far beyond one’s own self for the people of America.
Whatever she decides to pursue, she already is making a significant contribution to preserving America, and will continue to do so. That is her goal.
Your statement is ridiculous. So qualification for president comes from how much money you spent to go to school, eh? No, sorry, it does not.
What are you smoking? Did you see my post of the ideal candidate?