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The Unlikeable Palin
American Conservative ^ | 7/2/10 | Daniel Larison

Posted on 07/02/2010 6:07:54 PM PDT by pissant

Outside of Republicans, she’s not popular at all. According to our NBC/WSJ poll, just 29% view her favorably, compared with 43% who view her unfavorably (not far from George W. Bush’s 29%-50% score). In addition, the poll shows that 52% have problems with a candidate who has been endorsed by Palin, versus only 25% who are comfortable with that attribute. We’ve said it before and we’ll say it again: Palin is more of a political celebrity than a political figure. ~First Read

This is true, but there is nothing here about Palin that we know now that we didn’t already know a year or a year and a half ago. Her unfavorables among non-Republicans have gone up steadily since the Republican convention in 2008, and outside of a dedicated core of admirers and a few critics no one is taking her political chances seriously. This is the same as it has been for a very long time. As Josh Green notes, it would normally be absurd to think that someone with a 14-point favorability deficit was a serious presidential contender, and there aren’t that many non-partisans who think that she is anything of the kind. The reality is that the more independents and Democrats see of Palin, the less they like. In a country where these people make up at least 65% of the electorate, Palin is essentially unelectable in a general election. This isn’t a difficult call to make. The question to which we don’t know the answer yet is whether the GOP is so willfully blind to this reality and so bent on self-destruction in 2012 that the party nominates her anyway. For all of the reasons I have given before, I very much doubt that Republicans are this foolish. It is possible that the GOP will decide

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This is Pat Buchanan's magazine. Pretty sure Pat likes Palin. Never hear of this clown though.
1 posted on 07/02/2010 6:07:57 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
I don likable her either, LOOOVE her!
Boy, RATS sure are scaaaared of her.

Go Grizzly Mama, all the way!!!!

2 posted on 07/02/2010 6:12:34 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Yeah this polls smells like BS. Every candidate that she has endorsed ends up winning. So if she is so unpopular, why do candidates beg for her endorsement.


3 posted on 07/02/2010 6:13:51 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: pissant
. . . it would normally be absurd to think that someone with a 14-point favorability deficit was a serious presidential contender . . .

Just an interesting note, from Rasmussen:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 24% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-four percent (44%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -20

We'll see where the socialist in our White House stands in 2012 and where Palin stands, but it's silly to dismiss her (or even him) at this point in the election cycle. Four years ago we had it on the best authority that we'd be watching Giuliani v. Clinton with Hillary essentially a guaranteed winner in 2008.

4 posted on 07/02/2010 6:14:05 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: pissant

Everyone she endorses win. Who has this guy endorsed?


5 posted on 07/02/2010 6:14:10 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: pissant
Well, no one knows what Governor Palin is going to do, she hasn't declared and the 2012 election won't start for another six months anyway. So any "analyzing" of her electoral chances are bunk.

The writer also ignores the fact that no Republican can win without the passionate support of grassroots conservatives.

6 posted on 07/02/2010 6:18:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: pissant

I don’t buy it. I don’t see how her unfavorables go up after what they did to her during the election. If anything, I think that the more exposure she gets, the more soccer moms realize she’s not the anti-christ. My guess is that polls are being skewed by pollsters trying to kill her chances.


7 posted on 07/02/2010 6:18:18 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: pissant

Pat Buchanan’s magazine is CINO. The guy is a loser.

Although I don’t doubt that leftists hate Sarah, and that a lot of other people have likely had the wool pulled over their eyes by the MSM.

Ronald Reagan had the same problem, until people watched him in the debates and were able to judge him for himself against a clearly weaker opponent. But the media did a pretty good job of demonizing until Reagan got the chance to speak directly to the American people on Prime Time TV.


8 posted on 07/02/2010 6:19:44 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ez

That is because this poll is as reliable as Obama saying that jobs are being created LOL. This poll is pure BS. If people were turned off by the people she was endorsing then guess what, some people would not have been up in arms about her endorsing McCain and Fiorina, they would have been all for it since it would have ruined their chances. By the time 2012 comes around, my doggy could beat Obama..these rats are just afraid of Sarah Palin in the White House..they can smell it coming and it scares the crap out of them


9 posted on 07/02/2010 6:21:23 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: pissant

Funny the crap that gets printed.....

Ronnie Reagan had people that did not care for him either, at first. Then look at what he did for America as President...a REAL President I might add.

Palin bashers are usually anti-American, scared liberal cowards, or worse.


10 posted on 07/02/2010 6:23:47 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: pissant

Outside of Republicans, no one likes Republicans, according to these polls. So what else is new?

We’ll never win by trying to get “them” to like “us.”

We can only win by consolidating our base and helping to break apart the loose ties that hold “their” base together.


11 posted on 07/02/2010 6:24:08 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I have an idea for a poll...Would you prefer to give Obama four more years to enact his policies or give Palin a chance to fix our problems?


12 posted on 07/02/2010 6:24:54 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: pissant
Never hear of this clown though.

Nor have I. Probably another one of those fairy graduates of the David Frum School of Conservative Thought.
13 posted on 07/02/2010 6:26:11 PM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

If he is writing for Buchanan’s mag, he is likely about as anti-Frum as you could get.


14 posted on 07/02/2010 6:28:17 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

I like Sarah Palin because she is so much smarter than the average Republican officeholder, such as Mitch McConnell, Orrin Hatch, John Boehner ......... et al.

The author of this article is a typical hand wringing ass clown who is worrying about things that will take care of themselves.

It is my feeling that she is wise enough not to run.

Her time will come.

She will be the first woman to become President, but it won’t be 2012.

My guess is that Romney will be our next President.

He is not a particular favorite of mine, but realistically he is as conservative as any Rockfeller Republican named George Bush or the Kansas Conciliator Bob Dole.


15 posted on 07/02/2010 6:28:29 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: pissant

Okay, Daniel. You say that nominating Sarah Palin is tantamount to conceding the 2012 election. Who among the likely field would do better? Or more to the point, are you under the impression that any of them would? And if so, why?


16 posted on 07/02/2010 6:31:32 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

I love her too.


17 posted on 07/02/2010 6:35:48 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Biblebelter

Well, Mitt will get elected w/out my vote.


18 posted on 07/02/2010 6:37:19 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Leo Carpathian
And Barbara Boxer, and Nancy Pilosi are likable?
19 posted on 07/02/2010 6:38:36 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has it limits.)
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To: AFreeBird

The RINO relic lost last time out without mine.


20 posted on 07/02/2010 6:39:22 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Sarah Barracuda

NBC/WSJ——Pleezzzzz. If I am not mistaken their sample is average Americans and not registered voters.

These polls are based on a false media image. Palin will smash this image once she starts to campaign with her own message. The one thing none of these clowns take into account is the retail side of politics. Palin is a master at retail politics and that is the game changer.


21 posted on 07/02/2010 6:39:49 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: ez

I pick the most obvious choice :-) How about we impeach Obama now and put Palin in.


22 posted on 07/02/2010 6:40:06 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Leo Carpathian
Go Grizzly Mama, all the way!!!!

Sarah will do what she will do and ask for God to guide her along the way. Ronald Reagan followed that path and it worked out ok for him. If Sarah's path carries her to the oval office in 2013 or 2017 it is ok with me. We just do not under any circumstance need a RHINO sliding into the office and subverting a true conservative.

23 posted on 07/02/2010 6:40:44 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: pissant

snicker snort


24 posted on 07/02/2010 6:45:07 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: pissant
This guy is a PhD in Byzantine History from the Univ. of Chicago. He recently wrote a column criticizing U.S. support of "Israel's recklessness" in the flotilla raid and urged more accommodation to the Turkish position. No wonder he writes for Buchanan.

Another anti-Israel Buchananite hates Palin. Big deal.

25 posted on 07/02/2010 6:45:14 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: pissant
I have not seen anyone in national politics more appealing than Sarah Palin.

I actually believed that Romney would likely be the most competent person to be President (in 2008) despite his major gaffe here in Massachusetts of signing that outrageous Health Care Law.

I'm getting old enough to realize that my days are numbered. I have more concerns about posterity than I do for my own future.

Sarah Palin is the only person in sight that seems to be of a similar mindset.

There is nobody better out there right now.

Well the new Governor of New Jersey could be a contender, but he has only been in office for a few months.

Lets see what happens during the next year or so.

26 posted on 07/02/2010 6:48:03 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: pissant
This is nothing more than a combination of leftard dreaming and romney paying this clown to write this tripe.

LLS

27 posted on 07/02/2010 6:54:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Biblebelter
She will be the first woman to become President, but it won’t be 2012.

If this is the case, Palin would help her prospects considerably (in terms of winning over mushy moderates) by getting a serious job, where she is responsible for solving - FOR REAL, NOT JUST TALKING - serious issues.

I understand why she left the Alaskan Governor's office. However, that act was very damaging to her Presidential prospects.

28 posted on 07/02/2010 6:54:49 PM PDT by Yossarian (A pro-life democrat is one who holds out for something in return for his pro-abortion vote.)
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To: pissant

Don’t believe the poll, but it is amazing how the American people can be manipulated against a person who certainly never did anything wrong and has done a lot of good.


29 posted on 07/02/2010 6:57:00 PM PDT by Williams
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To: AFreeBird

He will never get my vote.

LLS


30 posted on 07/02/2010 6:57:27 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Al B.

I could smell it on his writing.

LLS


31 posted on 07/02/2010 6:58:48 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: pissant

“the poll shows that 52% have problems with a candidate who has been endorsed by Palin, versus only 25% who are comfortable with that attribute.” REALLY? Every candidate that she has endorsed has one. How does buchanan call himself conservative?


32 posted on 07/02/2010 6:59:01 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Al B.

Even if Palin has high negatives that doesn’t mean she can’t be elected, once she has center stage in a general election. It’s like all the people who thought Reagan wasn’t electable until he proved himself in the debates with Carter.


33 posted on 07/02/2010 6:59:59 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Yossarian

Was just in ALASKA for two weeks.

While in Skagway, we saw a Sarah Palin store. So I went in, Dad photographed me next to the full-size cutout of her, bought a coffee mug for my next evil capitalist gig, a few pins and smiled at all the other people in the store. Ahhhhhh.


34 posted on 07/02/2010 7:00:19 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (FR - my online family. From Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: Al B.

Thanks, Al B. I was just about to research the writer.

I’m not a silly Pollyanna. I know that Sarah will have to reintroduce herself to the doubters that the media persuaded that she was Tina Fey dumb, but I also know that Sarah is up to that challenge.

She’s media smart now and she’s ready to be POTUS. Let her shine and ‘bring it on.’


35 posted on 07/02/2010 7:00:43 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Yossarian

You make a good point.

But remember Ronald Reagan had only one serious job as you put it and that was the governorship of California.

After he left office, he did pretty much what Palin is doing now.

Since cable news commentary was not option then he did the next best thing,he had his own radio commentary show, did a lot of speaking, and worked hard for candidates who were conservative.

That is why I said 2012 would not be her year.

She is doing good works for conservatism just as Reagan did when he left the governorship.

At some point she will have accrued the political capital to cash in with the electorate just as Reagan did.


36 posted on 07/02/2010 7:02:50 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: pissant; Clyde5445; Al B.

Since this Magazine is anti war and anti Israel
am so glad they don’t like Sarah Palin. I would not want a magazine like that supporting her.

Like Duncan Hunter Sarah Palin suports the war against the IslamOfascists and supports Israel.

Thanks for exposing the paleos who back the PaulBots and bash Sarah


37 posted on 07/02/2010 7:04:02 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Williams
It’s like all the people who thought Reagan wasn’t electable until he proved himself in the debates with Carter.

And that's after Ronald Reagan had spent 3 decades in public life, was running for president for the 3rd time and was up against the disaster called Jimmy Carter.

Despite all that, Americans STILL were not sure about him until that debate because of the constant anti-Reagan media drumbeat. The polls were a dead heat and Carter was ticking up. The deal was closed in one night.

Post-election polls showed 2/3 of Americans thought Palin had gotten a raw deal from the media. If she is the nominee, she'll get a serious second look. It'll be up to her.

38 posted on 07/02/2010 7:12:06 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: pissant

For a “conservative” magazine, I saw an awful lot of Ron Paul/libertarian links in there. (It appears that libertarians in this case just HATE competition).


39 posted on 07/02/2010 7:12:15 PM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: onyx
She'll have her shot if she wants it, no doubt about that.

Problem is, that's what has her detractors in a dither. They don't WANT her to have an honest shot.

40 posted on 07/02/2010 7:14:37 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: pissant
Here is the Survey with internals. MSNBC contracted the survey of 1000 "adults".
41 posted on 07/02/2010 7:16:28 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: PA Engineer

AP/GFK has a poll out today with Palin’s fav/unfav at 45/52. Obama is at 45/55 with Rasmussen. LOL.


42 posted on 07/02/2010 7:20:35 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: Al B.

Exactly so. Her detractors are trying to stop her from getting her honest shot and she’s worked hard for it.

Well, she’s going to get it and she’s going to be our nomineee. There’s nobody better and nobody comes close to her.


43 posted on 07/02/2010 7:21:38 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: pissant

This thread is useles without, ahem, pics.


44 posted on 07/02/2010 7:21:45 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Al B.

Exactly so. Her detractors are trying to stop her from getting her honest shot and she’s worked hard for it.

Well, IF SHE WANTS IT, she’s going to get it and she’s going to be our nominee. There’s nobody better and nobody comes close to her.


45 posted on 07/02/2010 7:22:10 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy


46 posted on 07/02/2010 7:25:41 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx

Thank you very much!

Nice gams, as well.


47 posted on 07/02/2010 7:28:48 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

YOU BETCHA!


48 posted on 07/02/2010 7:30:20 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: pissant

In the last 12 months, I didn’t realize there were this many stupid citizens in this country. I guess I’d better start stocking more ammo....


49 posted on 07/02/2010 7:31:05 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: pissant

its Palin or BUST
Obama have a -24 unfavorable rating yet the author still he have a chance over Palin’s -14 unfavorable rating. Author is cherry picking poll data


50 posted on 07/02/2010 7:40:44 PM PDT by 4rcane
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