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Liz Cheney calls for Steele to step down [Steele's comments "deeply disappointing and wrong."]
Washington Examiner ^ | 07/03/10 | Byron York

Posted on 07/03/2010 8:29:03 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Liz Cheney, daughter of the former vice president, chairman of Keep America Safe, and an increasingly prominent voice in national security politics, has released a statement calling for Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele to resign:

RNC Chairman Michael Steele’s comments about the war in Afghanistan were deeply disappointing and wrong. The chairman of the Republican party must be unwavering in his support for American victory in the war on terror — a victory that cannot be accomplished if we do not prevail in Afghanistan. I endorse fully Bill Kristol’s letter to Chairman Steele. It is time for Chairman Steele to step down.

Cheney joins Weekly Standard editor Kristol, former South Carolina Republican Party chair (and Steele opponent) Katon Dawson, and prominent conservative blogger Erick Erickson in calling for Steele’s resignation. The controversy started after Steele was recorded telling a group of Republican candidates Thursday that the war in Afghanistan is “a war of Obama’s choosing.” “This was not something that the United States had actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in,” Steele told the group, adding that “the one thing you don’t do is engage in a land war in Afghanistan.”


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: constitution; lizcheney; michaelsteele; norinosallowed; rnc; steele; wot
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1 posted on 07/03/2010 8:29:08 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: Mr. Silverback; martin_fierro; Slings and Arrows; Allegra; Jim Robinson

Ping!


2 posted on 07/03/2010 8:30:15 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

drop steele now


3 posted on 07/03/2010 8:30:37 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

He should have stepped down after he voted for Obama. But hey that’s just me.


4 posted on 07/03/2010 8:31:01 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The time to broom Steele was in March or April. This is typical Republican suicidal behavior.


5 posted on 07/03/2010 8:31:12 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: al baby

He voted for 0bama? I hadn’t heard that one.

Cindie


6 posted on 07/03/2010 8:32:47 AM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Thank you, Liz.

I don’t know why Steele hasn’t had sense enough to resign all on his own by now. That’s what you do when your play is hurting the team.


7 posted on 07/03/2010 8:34:40 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Obama: "I will gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Steele is an example of what happens when people elevate individuals to certain status based on the color of their skin. I think too many folks out there were enamored with the idea of having a black man in a senior position within the RNC instead of considering his character and qualifications.

Then again, can anyone tell me anything different about Obama?


8 posted on 07/03/2010 8:35:12 AM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If Liz Cheney calls for it, that’s more than good enough for me.


9 posted on 07/03/2010 8:36:10 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Steele is the embodiment of the failed RINO mentality, which believes if we ‘play nice’ with the left, they’ll let us win sometimes. It’s the same as Obama’s foreign policy, which only projects foolishness and weakness.


10 posted on 07/03/2010 8:36:51 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Dump Steele! Now!

I have been declaring this for months. This guy is a worthless POS as far as the GOP goes.

11 posted on 07/03/2010 8:37:19 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Steele should have stopped with the initial comment before going Harry Reid all over.


12 posted on 07/03/2010 8:37:24 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Spok
Steele is the embodiment of the failed RINO mentality, which believes if we ‘play nice’ with the left, they’ll let us win sometimes.

DOUBLE Bingo!!!


13 posted on 07/03/2010 8:39:07 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

he’s not doing any good for the GOP that’s for sure.


14 posted on 07/03/2010 8:39:12 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I can’t remember seeing a political figure melt down faster than Steele. I say this having watched Steele appearances on talking head shows for years. Prior to him becoming head of the RNC, I don’t remember him ever being off target.

After him becoming head of the RNC, I don’t remember seeing him on target.

“They’re criticizing me because they’re racists.”

That was basically the last straw for me. If you have that much of a Democrat mindset to the core, it’s impossible for you to represent me or Conservatism.

Michael, just like any other human independent of skin color, it’s your actions that have bought you all this disdain. Step down.


15 posted on 07/03/2010 8:39:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: fightinJAG
-- I don't know why Steele hasn't had sense enough to resign all on his own by now. --

Because in his mind, it's not about serving others, or about advocating unwavering political principles. It's about serving himself. He'll say or do what's expedient to retain the perks.

He'll "adjust" or promise to adjust, rather than resign. The only way he's going out is by being forced out.

Same goes for the politicians.

16 posted on 07/03/2010 8:40:23 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

IMO Steele is playing for his “brotha’s” team.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/17/steele-obama-teasing-just-good-love-brothers/


17 posted on 07/03/2010 8:41:29 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Spok
Fire him. Hire Liz Cheney. And get on with it.

It SHOULD be that cut and dry. November should be a bloodbath for dems. Unless we are spending all our time diddling with Steele. Clean house NOW>

18 posted on 07/03/2010 8:41:51 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Where were the ‘good’ GOP leaders like Liz Cheney, when Steele met with the open borders lobby assuring them he was behind amnesty recently??? They should have demanded his resignation then.


19 posted on 07/03/2010 8:41:53 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Steele and Obama were picked for the very same reason. Now that that isn’t too popular today...they both should resign.


20 posted on 07/03/2010 8:46:12 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Liz Cheney is awesome


21 posted on 07/03/2010 8:50:37 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: shield

***Steele and Obama were picked for the very same reason***.

You could be right - and if calls for Steele’s resignation are based on his poor performance - that CAN NOT be considered racist.

Similarly, calling for BO’s impeachment should be a slam dunk!


22 posted on 07/03/2010 8:52:55 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

He shouldnt have said Afghanistan was Obama’s choosing. But, the land war in Afghanistan is not going well. Not because our troops can, but because the command structure wont. The only way to take over a nation of tribes is to obliterate it. And we are not.


23 posted on 07/03/2010 8:53:00 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
"If Liz Cheney calls for it, that’s more than good enough for me."

Ditto - Steele is only good for GOP suicide. If HE doesn't recognize that fact, then it will speak volumes about his character.
24 posted on 07/03/2010 8:53:39 AM PDT by demkicker (Helping Democrats Become Extinct)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I don’t see where he said anything wrong. I would like to see a poll of Republicans on this issue. Obama is getting our guys killed because he is running the war as a campaign war and not a serious one.


25 posted on 07/03/2010 8:54:16 AM PDT by Brimack34
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
a victory that cannot be accomplished if we do not prevail in Afghanistan.

Define "victory" and "prevail".

Hussein already is set to bug out in a year, either commit to being there for 50 plus years or don't bother wasting the lives and body parts.

26 posted on 07/03/2010 8:56:37 AM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Two word solution.....KEN BLACKWELL!


27 posted on 07/03/2010 8:58:39 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Steele is an incompetent fool and race card player.

He should have been hounded out a year ago after the debacle in 2008.

On this issue however, I can't see where he is off base.

There will be no victory in Afghanistan unless the US is prepared to stay there until the place is westernized. That could take a century.

Hussein intends to leave next July.

28 posted on 07/03/2010 9:00:13 AM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Why should we listen to the Cheney clan’s defense of Obama’s war. Cheney, Kristol, and company were the ones who led the GOP to disaster. Steele is right. Let’s unite against Obama’s War and act like a true OPPOSITION party.


29 posted on 07/03/2010 9:01:19 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

We should protest in front of the RNC...soon.


30 posted on 07/03/2010 9:01:27 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Brimack34

Exactly right. I normally don’t care for Steele but on this issue is absolutely right and should be defended. The fact that Billy Kristol hates him is a chief argument on his side.


31 posted on 07/03/2010 9:02:35 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

frankly, this is much ado about nothing. many reasons why he should step down, but some out of context remarks on the war aren’t one of them. I looked up the remarks and what I found wasn’t that bad. looks again like the GOP has a circular firing squad. shut up about it already. it’s just making a bad name for all of us. there are ways to work around steele........Sarah Palin manages just fine. I no longer donate any money to them, so I don’t care much what he does.


32 posted on 07/03/2010 9:02:39 AM PDT by tioga
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Neither Michael Steele or Liz Cheney are competent to make strategic determinations about the war in Afghanistan. Instead, the conduct of the war should be very clear about the harsh realities.

Afghanistan is an artificial country. Its northern half is stable, and the US is building a $100m base in the northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif, because it is near the Afghan border with the nations of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and a small connection to China. A great place to be to gather intelligence.

However, the southern half of Afghanistan shares half the national border with Pakistan. Ethnically, it is controlled by the Pushtun tribes, who are the largest minority in the country, and thus usually control the country, but don’t get along with anyone. Their tribes overlap into Pakistan, and they cross the border freely. Only two of the Pushtun tribes openly support the Taliban.

All the NATO forces are less than 150 thousand, and there are about 100 thousand ill-capable Afghan army. But there are 30 million Afghans. This means that NATO cannot occupy any significant part of southern Afghanistan, and as soon as they leave, the Taliban can return.

Next door is Pakistan, with 177 million people. It is a broken country, with several near-autonomous enclaves run by groups opposed to the central government. One of its biggest enterprises are its system of thousands of “madrassas”, religious schools that train most of the religious students in all of Islam.

Most of these madrassas are run by the Wahabbi sect of Islam, which are very radical by Muslim standards. But this gives that sect control over most of the Muslim pulpits in mosques around the world.

These madrassas also often provide terrorism training. And this is why we can never “win the war in Afghanistan.”

At any given time, there are probably on 50,000 or so Taliban. NATO regularly culls them as well. However, because of these Pakistani madrassas, they can always fill their ranks with replacements.

We can’t do that.

From the moment we entered Afghanistan, we should have replaced their stupid government with a western-style system. But we didn’t do that, out of stupid “cultural sensitivity”. So we trimmed up the cancer and made it look nice, and sewed it back into the body.

This means that the Afghan government won’t be able to control things once we leave, either.

So the best we can hope for is to get out of there, and in such a way that at least the Taliban and al-Qaeda won’t immediately take over.

Fears about them doing what they did before, in 9-11, are almost silly, because the number of radical Pakistanis willing to do that is a hundred times greater, and there is not anything we can do about them.

Plus the fact that the 9-11 terrorists all came from Saudi Arabia.

The only reason we are still there is because of that military base. And our enormous airbase at Bagram, which menaces Iran.


33 posted on 07/03/2010 9:04:09 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: maggief

Reminds me of JC Watts announcing on Hannity’s radio program he was voting for OBOZO because it was historic - a brother as President regardless of the fact he’s a radical socialist.


34 posted on 07/03/2010 9:07:11 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Brimack34

The initial comment that this is Barry’s war of choice is right on. But the crack about defeat is assinine at best and sounds like the things the ‘rats say.


35 posted on 07/03/2010 9:11:48 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Cool, now Obama can mention Steele and make fun of him in KC next week.

The majority of voters have no idea who Steele is, I believe Steele does these thinks for attention.

Voters will not care in Nov what Steele said or who is in charge of the RNC. I never give to the RNC and would not give to the RNC no matter who is in charge.

36 posted on 07/03/2010 9:16:34 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; firebrand; rmlew; Clemenza; Reaganite1984; Yehuda; neverdem

First, Steele is in there because the GOP needed to show “See? we have a black leader too”. He’s the affirmative action GOP leader.

That being said, he is correct in his assessment about Afghanistan. It’s a waste to remain there, in lives and in money. Our initial mission was to go there get Bin Laden and the Al Qaida leadership and get out. Instead Bush broke his campaign promise that he would out engage in nation building. We will have achieved nothing. As soon as we leave the rats will take over the place and control it just as they had before we got there. We ought to concentrate on the original mission, target the leadership of the Taliban and Al Qaida, kill them all and get the hell out of there. Give the Pakis 72 hours to round up our list and turn them over to us or we nuke their major cities. Of course that’s a fantasy. In an ideal world that is exactly what we should do. But we have become too civilized for war.

We also need to be clear on one thing. We are at war with Islam in it’s entirety. The whole religion needs to be wiped out. They need to be shown they believe in a failed belief system. It gives them no power, does not raise the standard of living and will not let the survive in the modern world. Islam is our enemy, Bin laden was merely a symptom of the disease. The sooner we admit this and realize it the better.


37 posted on 07/03/2010 9:30:43 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I remember one Sunday when Steele was running for the Senate, he appeared on FOX News Sunday.

My impression after the interview was that he was totally ignorant and not very bright.

But, by dint of his skin color alone, with Republicans always believing they have something to prove, he became the Party’s great Black hope.

If we are not Liberals and Democracts, we really should judge people on the merits.

On the merits, Steele doesn’t merit.


38 posted on 07/03/2010 9:34:27 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: HearMe

It is the likes of Billy Kristol (a former Democrat) who are support the “Liberals and Democrats” in maintaining Obama’s War. By opposing this war, Steele has taken a stand against the “Liberals and Democrats” on that issue.


39 posted on 07/03/2010 9:38:53 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: TornadoAlley3

Obama may make fun of Steele in public but in private he makes fun of the “useful idiots’ in the GOP who support his war in Afghanistan.


40 posted on 07/03/2010 9:40:06 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Rome2000

Is Iraq a better place for us having gone in? I believe so. Is Afghanistan going to be a better place for us having gone in, I believe so.

You’re not the only one who thinks as you do. There are a lot of people who agree with you. None the less, we can’t simply take 09/11s and curl up in a corner and die.

We have to do something to make people who think along the lines of the terrorists, realize there will be a heavy price to pay. Otherwise we just fold up and blow away.

Hit us when you want. No problem...


41 posted on 07/03/2010 9:40:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: Captain Kirk

Palpable nonsense.

Steele shows too much ignorance to even have a valid argument against the war.

He wanted simply to score political points against Obama, but to score political points you need some basic tools- knowledge and smarts. Steele has neither.


42 posted on 07/03/2010 9:41:21 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: HearMe

I don’t totally disagree but Steele does NOT deserve to get fired on this issue. His comments were essentially accurate. First, this is a war of Obama’s choosing. He supported it from the beginning and chose to escalate when president. Second, Steele’s other (less publicized) comments that this is an endless quagmire were spot on. Besides, look who opposes Steele. Do you really want Billy Kristol to be a kingmaker in the GOP.


43 posted on 07/03/2010 9:43:54 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

As a proponent of Affirmative Action, Steele should never have been placed in a position of authority in the GOP. It is time to remedy this mistake.


44 posted on 07/03/2010 9:46:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Captain Kirk

I don’t know what you’re motivations are, but to call Afghanistan Obama’s war is an out and out lie.

Obama does many terrible damaging things, and if he could I have not a shred of doubt that he would pull out of Afghanistan immediately.

But even with as little regard as Obama has to do right, there are certain things he just must do, he has no choice. Keeping Gitmo open against his will for one example, Afghanistan for another. At least for now.


45 posted on 07/03/2010 9:49:12 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: Captain Kirk

I don’t know what your problem is with Kristol, but he has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

Kristol has opinions like almost everyone else. His views today rarely move anything. The last time he was influential was when he sold the pick of Palin to the McCain team.

Many Conservatives thing that a great thing.


46 posted on 07/03/2010 9:52:45 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

He should be replaced but not because of this issue.


47 posted on 07/03/2010 10:10:51 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Michael Steele....The GOP’s very own Affirmative Action poodle.


48 posted on 07/03/2010 10:16:52 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Heckuva job, Brownie!.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What did he say? Critisizing Obama? Well thats it! Get rid of him now! (s)


49 posted on 07/03/2010 10:17:08 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: Cacique
"Islam is our enemy, Bin laden was merely a symptom of the disease. The sooner we admit this and realize it the better. "

All of islam, especially the Saudi's.

50 posted on 07/03/2010 11:14:09 AM PDT by matthew fuller (2012: Bachman, Bolton, Brewer, Liz Cheney, Coburn, DeMint, Inhofe, Jindal, Palin and Pence.)
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