Skip to comments.GLENN COOK: The reason kids are getting fat
Posted on 07/04/2010 6:50:50 AM PDT by rellimpank
At some point, Americans are going to have to confront the real reason our kids are getting fat.
The obvious answer: They don't get enough exercise, especially outside play time. Duh.
These days, fat kids are more politicized than budget deficits. Every week, it seems, there's a new report telling us more kids are overweight. So politicians demand more tax money for new sports and recreation programs, they condemn and threaten the fast food industry, and they agitate for fully subsidized health care for children.
They even argue that the juvenile obesity epidemic can be reversed by significantly expanding welfare programs, and by having schools provide weekend meals. Poor kids used to go hungry. We're told today's poor kids are fat, not because they eat too much, but because their parents can't afford or don't have access to healthy foods.
First lady Michelle Obama has made childhood obesity her personal crusade, and she visited Las Vegas a few weeks back to promote her "Let's Move!" campaign. She's all for more food subsidies and federal interventions in the grocery trade, but to her credit, she's also encouraging kids to walk or bike to school, among other constructive ideas.
That said, the condescension that dominates this debate is enough to make anyone purge.
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Re: When I was a kid we had 3 TV channels in black and white
>HA! When I was a kid, My Grandfathers upstairs tenant
>got the first TV in the neighborhood. It was an enormous
>box, with a little oval-shaped picture tube. It was more
>black and pale green! My Dad built our first TV from a kit!
Your conversation reminds me of this classic MP sketch...
Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen:
Eric Idle: Who’d a thought thirty years ago we’d all be sittin’ here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?
MP: Aye. In them days, we’d a’ been glad to have the price of a cup o’ tea.
GC: A cup ‘ COLD tea.
EI: Without milk or sugar.
TG: OR tea!
MP: In a filthy, cracked cup.
EI: We never used to have a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.
GC: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
TG: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.
MP: Aye. BECAUSE we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, “Money doesn’t buy you happiness.”
EI: ‘E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN’. We used to live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.
GC: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!
TG: You were lucky to have a ROOM! *We* used to have to live in a corridor!
MP: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin’ in a corridor! Woulda’ been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.
EI: Well when I say “house” it was only a hole in the ground covered by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.
GC: We were evicted from *our* hole in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake!
TG: You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.
MP: Cardboard box?
MP: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o’clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!
GC: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o’clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!
TG: Well we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o’clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.
EI: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, (pause for laughter), eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing “Hallelujah.”
MP: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won’t believe ya’.
ALL: Nope, nope...
Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen:
When I was a kid we lived next to a forest. We’d go running around in there during the summer, and sledding down the straighter trails in the winter. My first taste of “wild” edibles was a patch of chives I found out there (I think someone dropped their seeds, but at 8 years old that was like finding treasure).
Then the city came and cut it all down. Someone decided that there was a chance drug dealers could hide in the forest.
Now I bought my own land, and I’m planting my own forest. And stumbling across a patch of wild edibles still brings that same excitement as that little patch of chives did.
Kids aren't allowed to just have fun anymore. Left to their own devices they play and run off that energy. Moms used to watch out the window and if anyone got too rough or didn't play fair, the kids was marched home and a full report was given.
I snacked a lot as a kid. My mother constantly made delicous cookies, cakes, and pies which I scarfed up with reckless (and joyful) abandon on a daily basis. I was skinnier than a thin shoestring. Because like all the other kids, I was outside every day running around and playing like the little barbarian I was. Today’s kids simply don’t exercise enough.
That sounds similar to my upbringing. My mother made wonderful tacos and enchiladas as well as fried chicken and meat loaf. There were no "fast food" eateries at the time, but we might occasionally go out to Nixon's, a drive-in restaurant owned by the vice president's brother--the site is now an abandoned auto dealership--or to a coffee shop such as Jack's Salad Bowl in West Whittier (the last of the Jack's chain, which once dominated Whittier, is still in business on Whittier Blvd. It is owned by a Greek and serves excellent food).
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
I’ve noticed a lot more chunky kids than I used to, and I’m sixty.
It's's made in a factory like an oil refinery from GMO corn you couldn't eat if you tried, God , I miss old fashioned 'horse corn' and other varieties that have gone away.
HFCS hit's the liver quick, shutting down Leptin(the 'I'm Full" hormone) and increasing Grelin(the 'I'm Hungry").
There are other bad things, but that's enough to chew on for now.
Food stamps should be limited to whole, unprocessed foods and seeds. Dr Pepper and Doritos are not foods.
the Amish farmer eats whole foods and lots of it, which is ok because he works it all off in manual labor. the average American eats truckloads of useless calories with little if any nutritional value and sits on a couch all day. there is a happy medium somewhere.
Here’s another really good one;
“Women should be obscene and not heard.”
We really don’t have many of those wisecracking Wilde-Fields-Marx-West types anymore, do we? As a people have we become less clever? Or, in a say—anything environment is there simply no premium for saying what can’t be said?
Hilarious skit! But,,, a grotesque exaggeration of my “growing up” post. I was born in ‘46, and growing up in the Fifties was so vastly different than growing up more recently, We even got exercise waiting for the school bus! Because five or six blocks worth of kids had to walk to the school bus stop. Today, it’s a curse getting caught behind a school bus, which stops at every few driveways!
Again, hilarious skit! Big Python fan here.
I guess I am one of those “obsessive parents who fear the world” types. However, try going on the internet and searching how many registered sex offenders live in your neighborhood or near you. Ten years ago (prior to my oldest going to kindergarten) a van stopped by a first grader walking to school and attempted to get her into the vehicle. Other children and parents were spread out and he left only after an adult came running. No, they never caught the person but that incident coupled with the fact that about thirty sex offenders live within a five mile radius of us changed me forever. Am I “obsessive”? No, I am simply a Mom who doesn’t want one of her kids abducted, raped, tortured and found in a shallow grave. I will proudly wear the obsessive tag rather than the latter.
I let my two older kids (10 and 12) roam the neighborhood with their friends, too. They go around on bikes screaming and yelling like any other kids in the past sixty years, and they are super thin, though I admit they eat more junk than they ought. (They love veggies, too, though, and eat much more “real food” than junk, so that helps).
We lived in Sweden and I never saw fat kids. Not ever, and we lived in a city for most of the time. People ate candy by the bagful, as well as tons of bread and beer. I absoultely think it is the way we process our food and take out good stuff when we pasteurize things to mkae the shelf life impossibly long. (This is merely an idle thought of mine as I am a dairy addict and actually lost weight in Sweden eating tons of cheese, sour creme and yogurt.)
Having taught middle school here in NC, I was SHOCKED at the amount of overweight or otherwise INCREDIBLY adult figures of kids as young as 11. There was nothing like that even when I was in HS (and I graduated in 1991, so not all that long ago). I don’t think my graduating class had as many girls with curvy figures (quickly spreading into obesity post age 13) as some of the sixth and seventh grade classes I have taught.
This entire article just screams out we are making the world “so safe” for our kids that we are just putting them at incredible risks. (As to the moms and dads worried about pedophiles; I am with you—my kids are trained to scream at the top of their lungs when a strange car comes their way and stops and run or ride bikes quickly towards other people. Sure they look goofy sometimes, but it beats them getting yanked into a car. We live in an area with few registered sex offenders, so I feel a little safer than some of you others may feel.)
Same here. I was the near-sighted bookworm type, and my Grandma would often say "Go outside!! You haven't been outside in days!"
"That's a problem, because soybean oil depresses the thyroid--which lowers your energy levels, makes you feel less like exercising, and generally makes you fatter."
One of the most effective forms of mind control and population control is that people are unaware of. The Soy kind in the food supply. Make them tired and fat with low thyroid and they will have no energy to resist the social engineering and globalist tyranny. Fat, tired, with slowed down thinking processes. Who owns the food companies that put partially hydrogenated soybean oil in the food?
That's true for me too. If I was hungry, Grandma would offer me either an apple or some cherry tomatoes from the garden. If I said "I'm not hungry for an apple," she'd say "Then you're not hungry."
That Monty Python skit was a treat! Thanks for linking!
I agree with you and there definitely should be some limits on what KIND of meat, bread, rice and other staples one can purchase under this program. I think overly processed foods should be prohibited from purchase when on the food stamp program. No prepackaged meals from the freezer, no "Lunchables", "Fruit by the Foot", and no junk food of ANY KIND should be allowed.
If the acceptance of "government" money allows the government to dictate what is done in folks' lives, then why not here? Why is it that the government will dictate, for example, to a school to allow certain things against that school's principles, all because that school accepts "government" money but they won't do the same for those on food stamps?
But, let's face it. The choice for those on food stamps to purchase healthier foods has ALWAYS been there; they choose not to exercise that option. I think it's time that option becomes "no option" and gets limited to just the staples, as you stated.
Yep. By 12 I could ride my bike four miles to the store in the tiny town near our farm. I'd go buy comic books and candy bars, but I must have peddled them off the four miles back because I was pretty thin.
When I was in third grade the bus drivers went on strike, or something. The buslines were drastically reduced. For several weeks, we had to walk 2 miles to the highway for the bus to pick us up. In the afternoon, we'd be dropped off 2 miles from home. If it was raining or my mom was in a mood, she'd pick us up, but most of the time she'd say "Ah. It won't kill ya. Why, when *I* was a kid..."
“Ah. It won’t kill ya. Why, when *I* was a kid...”
...I had to trudge up a hill six miles both ways!...
Yup. I can still remember the relayed cry of “CARRRRR! CAAAARRRR COOOMMMING!” and every one would move to the side of the road to let it pass, and then move back out into the street.
I like to keep my little boys in sight of the house, because if the oldest one gets a crazy idea and I’m not nearby, we could all end up in jail. If they’re close to the house, one of the others will turn up saying, “Pat said we could yadda yadda yadda,” and I can stop them!
My girls (10 and 12) can go anywhere they can walk, as long as they’re together or with a brother, and they tell me where they’re going. The older boys (13 and 16) just have to let me know when they’ll be home.
I think part of the reason that middle-schoolers are bigger than we were in 6th grade (I graduated high school in 1984) is that they’re often older. It’s not unusual for me to meet 8th graders who are 15, while my son who just finished 8th grade is 13. (Quite tall and stout, though ... he’s the one who wants to sit inside, reading and snacking!)
I used to go to the store and buy my parents cigarettes at 9 years old.
On trash day take a look at all the pizza boxes out there.
Add in the breadsticks, gooey cheese, and those icing covered thingys.
People do this on a regular basis.
If they don’t do this they are buying frozen prepared stuff and loads of bakery goods.
Things that used to be an occasional treat have become a steady diet.
Kids got fat when mom’s started working.
Kid will always sit on their fannies and eat junk if they can get away with it.
>That Monty Python skit was a treat! Thanks for linking!
You’re welcome. Just about everything they’ve ever done is on YouTube, even their films “Holy Grail” and “The Life of Brian” are there in their entirety.
“Life of Brian” (in 9 parts, posted by “BrianofNazareth4u “).
Monty Python and the Holy Grail (11 parts, posted by “burpboy”)
BTW: if you have RealPlayer, even the free version, you can download YouTube to your computer. Just make sure you stick with the same poster (same series of clips) when downloading multiple-clips of a long video such as a movie or half-hour sitcom.
“The problem is that the left wants EVERYONE to live in the cities”
You hit the nail on the head with the above statement. Look at Russia. Everyone lives in cities, cramped in block house buildings. A co worker married a Russian fellow from outside Moscow. After she got married, he wanted to take her to Russia and introduce her to his family. She told me stories that would make your head spin. His family, an average one, lived in what we would consider, project housing, in other words, government subsidized housing. Ugly as sin, amidst concrete parking lots. She said that the local government controlled the water supply and that once every 6 months or so the government workers came out and had to clean the pumps or something, so they shut all the water off in the area to do so. My friend couldn’t flush the toilets or get fresh water unless you went outside to a local pump and hauled up to the apartment. Because these were government employees, they had no urgency in finishing their job and the water remained turned off for the entire day. No one seemed to mind it though; they just accepted it as routine. I recall watching a travel channel program about Russia, and it seemed the only people that lived in the country were retired big wigs from the Communist ruling class. It is very frightening because it is obvious that if you live in rural areas, you have more opportunity to be self sufficient, and less in need of government intrusion. Not so with urban dwellers. We should be aware of this and take it to heart.
“You’d have to jog about 10 miles to burn the calories from a single doughnut. I could be off on the numbers, but not by much.”
That may be the official story but it doesn’t really work out that way in practice. Farm kids used to eat like starving hounds and stay as skinny as a rail, if you are active enough you just cannot get really fat. I can fairly well guarantee that if you jog ten miles every day you will not be able to eat enough to be fat.
There is a documentary about the old time loggers that I have seen on TV in which they say that the average logger who pulled one end of a two man saw and used an axe burned something like SEVEN THOUSAND calories a day and averaged weighing around one hundred and fifty five pounds. I can believe it because I started pulling my end of a saw while still in grade school.
I was just watching something about the Lewis and Clark expedition on the history channel and they said that those men HAD TO EAT six thousand calories a day to keep going and they certainly were not fat.
Of course those who say that a calorie is a calorie and it doesn’t matter what it comes from are dead wrong also. In reality it can make a world of difference what kind of food the calories come from and what the mix is. I learned long ago by practical experience that I could eat high protein or high carbohydrates without getting fat but if I eat meat AND potatoes there is a problem. Eat meat one day and potatoes the next and the results are much different.
Most Americans simply eat an atrocious diet and get little to no exercise.
Yes, the liberals call it, “urban infill”. It’s part of their program to limit growth in non-urban areas and move people back into the cities. They claim to want to return the land to it’s rightful owners, the Indians and the wild animals. It’s all a part of their world view, global warming, socialism, reduced population and anti-materialism. Of course those concepts only apply to the hoi polloi, not to the leftist elite.
It’s actually a part of the UN Agenda 21, but they will call you a conspiracy theorist if you dare to mention it. If you haven’t read about UN Agenda 21, you should do Google search.
Yes, but I didn't say "every day". In any case, it definitely is a LOT easier to take in calories and gain weight than it is to burn calories and lose weight. According to the chart I posted earlier, if one were 164 lbs and walked 5 miles at 2 mph they would burn about 600 calories, about the caloric content of a glazed doughnut. That unfortunate mathematical relationship is the biggest problem.
Why would they try to achieve anything...there is no such thing as first place anymore...they are all just a bunch of kids under the UN!!!
Everyone gets a trophy
The key is regular vigorous exercise, when kids got that every day there were very few fat ones. There were very few fat adults either. Watch some movies from the forties and fifties, it is amazing how skinny people were. I don’t think it was because we all were on strict diets.
There are also many more junk foods available today, and more fast food/junk food places.
That's it exactly!
True, there was very little junk food when I was growing up. I never even saw a pizza until I was in Navy boot camp. Up until then it was a word I heard on TV.
I wouldn’t necessarily describe pizza as ‘junk food’. Cheese, tomato sauce and dough aren’t all that bad nutritionally.
I don’t really consider pizza junk food either, I just threw that in because a lot of people cannot imagine someone not seeing their first pizza until they go to boot camp. There just weren’t many food service places of any kind back in the fifties in the South. The nearest place to buy a hamburger was probably ten miles from where we lived.
Now if you had walked there and back at 2.73 mph you could have had 2 burgers, fries and a thick shake and just about broke even calorie wise. :)
Let it pass while glaring at the driver to have the audacity to drive on our road....hehehe. We used to get so mad when a car came by!
I remember lots of junk food and fast food places (born in 70). However; we were ALWAYS told no....and we never had our "own" money to buy it either. There was no such thing as "allowance". Whatever we received was purchased by the parent/guardian and given to us.
And that was not very often!
Actually I used to walk all day every day except Sunday at about that pace during the summers and I ate everything I could get my hands on.
That’s what I’m currently doing. I walk close to 100 miles per week, maybe more. No joke. I’ve not been in such good shape in about 30 years.
I notice poor areas are often “food desert”, which lacks access to fresh foods to maintain a healthy diet.
You are right. I do see more adults getting fat. I notice fat children usually have fat parents.
Now, you mention about skinny kids becoming fat adults. I have friends from high school and college that were skinny. Now, they have gotten balder and fatter as they get older.
That’s exercise right there! One can setup a garden in a small lot. Not really much work right there.