Posted on 07/05/2010 6:48:05 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
“Allahu Akbar” (god is great)
Allahu Akbar does not translate to god is great. It translates to “Allah is great”. That’s a misinterpretation that the lamestream media always makes, and sometimes even Fox News.
You were right the first time...not all nations will come against Israel....the Us is not mentioned. We will not have the superior power nor influence to matter one way or another at that time.... Umbemee is doing a bang up job at taking us down....and fast at that! He still has a couple years to do more damage...consider what he has done this far...he can and will do alot more damage before he’s done. It will take years to recover from this...
“ANYBODY claiming to be a prophet beyond the time of Alexander is a liar and a BS artist and, to my thinking at least, that includes Mohammed (MHBH), Joseph Smith, AND the author of the book of Revelations which, again in my estimation, should be removed from the Bible. It does not add to whatever appeal Christianity might have to educated people.”
So that would include Jesus Christ Himself, wouldn’t it? Who are you to say what books should not be included in the Bible? Are you a bible scholar of noteworthiness? What books have you written? What theological Seminary have you attended and have written thesis on? Where are your credentials?
Please respond with your intelligent knowledge and explanation and exegesis of the Bible. Revelation is the ONLY book in the Bible that has a special blessing to those who read it. How many times did you read Revelation? Have EVER read Revelation? Have you read ANY book that explains what the meaning of the symbolisms, metaphores, and similes used in that book are? How do you come to the conclusion that Revelation should not be included in the Holy Bible? Is it because you don’t want to believe that God is not only a loving, kind, merciful, gracious, compassionate, and forgiving God, but also a Righteous, Holy, and Just God who will not allow sin to go unpunished? In Exodus, God also reveals that He is a Jealous God, and DEMANDS praises, worship and obedience to Him and Him ALONE!!
Exodus 20:5 “You shall not bow down to them (idols) nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a JEALOUS GOD, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the 3rd and 4th generation of those who hate me.
Most assuredly not. As I noted above the first paragraph of Hebrews describes prophets as something of the distant past at the time of Christ. The thing I like about Jesus is that his mission was entirely in this world, amongst this world's people; you don't read about him flying off to Kolob on a flying carpet, sitting on a mountain for twenty years to "attain enlightenment", translating an Egyptian formula for brewing beer into a holy book with "prophecy stones(TM)" and his face in a hat, or sitting around in some stupid cave until he started to hallucinate (St. John "the Devine(TM)".
The book of revelations was apparently included in the Bible on some sort of a 5-4 vote; it I'd been there I'd have voted against it.
Notice the small g...
What, in your words, was Jesus’s mission?
You sound like a typical Uneducated catholic who probably has never read the book of Revelation or studied it in any fashion at all. You are speaking out of total ignorance because you never answered my question whether you have EVER read the book of Revelation, studied it, or have ever attended a seminary, or received a divinity degree of any kind. You are one who picks and chooses out of otter ignorance what is canon and what is not. I therefore completely disregard all that you have to say about the Bible. By the way, have you ever read through the Bible at all? Have you ever read any verses of the Bible at all?
I read the Bible from cover to cover every year. How about you?
No. I was right the 2nd time. Read Zech 12:3
And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for ALL peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though ALL nations of the Earth are gathered against it.
I work for a living.
To demonstrate to mankind that there actually is a life after the death of our physical bodies. In antediluvian times no such demonstrations were needed since God spoke to man directly and even in the time between the flood and the Trojan war you had prophets and oracles but, again, ALL of that stuff stopped working before Alexander and men were becoming atheists and evolosers and there was no remaining argument against it before Jesus.
You cannot pick and choose if you want to believe in prophecy and prophets in our own age of the world. Either Joseph Smith, Mohammed, and John "the Devine(TM)" were all real, or they were all phony, and the answer to that one seems obvious enough to me. I know BS when I see it and the book of Revelations qualifies.
We either have an argument against I-Slam or we don't, and the real and overwhelming argument is that there simply are no real prophets in our age of the world, which began around the time just after the Trojan war as Julian Jaynes noted.
What makes you think she's Catholic? I see nothing of Catholic understanding in her words. This is just rude.
To demonstrate to mankind that there actually is a life after the death of our physical bodies.
Wrong. His mission was to be the sacrificial lamb of the New Covenant. If you are interested, I would be happy to recommend some reading for you. Your exegesis is very weak.
You cannot pick and choose if you want to believe in prophecy and prophets in our own age of the world. Either Joseph Smith, Mohammed, and John "the Devine(TM)" were all real, or they were all phony...
Actually, Our Lord gave us a litmus test to know if a man is a prophet. The first part of that test is whether or not he speaks truth. Each of these men preached a different message... they can't all be true at the same time. Therefore, your assertion is ludicrous on its face. Your arguments suffer from a serious lack of basic logical thought.
Ok so as not to split hairs....our leadership may indeed stand with those who oppose Israel...but as a military and political force we will be weakened considerably by then that our support won’t mean crap to the nations who rise up against Israel.....Umbambee is already doing so....but as a nation of people I do not believe we will support that then anymore than we support umbambee now.
The way you asked the question produced an answer which isn't really what I'd tell people about Jesus in my own words. What I would tell people is that the critical thing which he did and for which an airtight historical case could be made was to announce that he was going to return from the dead, and then do just that. THAT basically constitutes a valid and unanswerable proof against atheism and evoloserism.
I don't have any major qualms against some of the other claims in the NT, I wasn't there, but I wouldn't want to be the one trying to convert educated people by talking about converting wine to water, walking on water, or being some sort of a perfect lamb or sin offering.
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