Skip to comments.Texas A&M: Methane Levels in Gulf of Mexico Up to 100,000 X Normal
Posted on 07/14/2010 2:37:29 AM PDT by combat_boots
Last week, scientists from a University of Georgia weighed in with their findings on methane gas in the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. Yesterday, more opinions from other experts were published. Texas A&M University has also had a team on the Gulf and also finds exceptionally high methane levels in the water. Reuters: Texas A&M University oceanography professor John Kessler, just back from a 10-day research expedition near the BP Plc oil spill in the gulf, says methane gas levels in some areas are astonishingly high.
Kesslers crew took measurements of both surface and deep water within a 5-mile (8 kilometer) radius of BPs broken wellhead.
There is an incredible amount of methane in there, Kessler told reporters in a telephone briefing.
In some areas, the crew of 12 scientists found concentrations that were 100,000 times higher than normal.
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Blame it on the dog.
Wasn’t the Methane Gas produced by “Cow Flops” one of the the biggest contributors to CO2 gas in the atmosphere/global warming?
The Gulf will recover as did Prince William Sound in Alaska.
Nature3 does a wonderful job of cleansing itself. Oil is a naturally occurring substance and in time will dissipate.
Quick, someone light a match.
I was with them until they mentioned global warming.
You can still find oil on the beaches in Prince William Sound, Alaska.
It will probably take 50 years for nature to clean up this mess and for the Gulf to return to its prior state.
“Oil is a naturally occurring substance and in time will dissipate.”
Uranium is also a naturally occurring substance.
And in its natural state is relatively harmless.
It will probably take 50 years for nature to clean up this mess and for the Gulf to return to its prior state.
Two years ago there was no way to walk the beach in Biloxi barefoot for all of the junk metal, glass and plastic that washed out as the Katrina waters receded.
Methane = Natural gas
The point being that just because something is “naturally occurring” someplace on the planet doesn’t mean that a “nature can clean itself” approach is valid.
God's revenge for man taxing/punishing His creation, the cows.
How many cows would it take to create the amount of methane at the Gulf?
“Two years ago there was no way to walk the beach in Biloxi barefoot for all of the junk metal, glass and plastic that washed out as the Katrina waters receded.’
And then there is the impact on wildlife. How long will it take for those populations to return back to previous levels.
Now, if the article said that it was 758 times worse than thought, I would read the article without doubts since a real figure was cited.
In the case of “Texas A&M scientists” and “global warming” you just gotta know that the article was going to be severely slanted to the left.
There has always been oil globs on the beaches up there. Don’t blame the Valdez, blame natural leakage from the ground.
Concentrated Uranium is a naturally occurring substance? I didn’t know that we mine the depleted uranium shells directly out of the ground.
Sheese. Aren’t you at the wrong board?
Dang! That's almost as high as what's in the White House and DC right now.
Please point out where I used ‘Concentrated “ or “depleted uranium shells”. If you can’t then admit you are a lousy liar.
“There has always been oil globs on the beaches up there.”
Natural leakage? what a crock
Natural accounts for a few small tar balls, it does not account for beaches coated with the stuff. It does not account for being able to turn rocks over and find the bottoms completely coated.
I’m still waiting for you to point out where I used ‘Concentrated ‘ and ‘depleted uranium shells ‘.
Sheesh, you couldn’t be a liar could you?
Not sure about cows, but my 3 Labs could probably give it a serious challenge......
I know of no problems we are or have had with uranium as it sits in the ground. WE also have radon in various places but when id’d in a hpme the remedy is easy and inexpensive.
“I know of no problems we are or have had with uranium as it sits in the ground. “
Right, and oil that sits in its natural place causes no problems. Take it out, throw it on the beach or on a bunch of dolphins and the situation is different.
“WE also have radon in various places but when idd in a hpme the remedy is easy and inexpensive.”
Radon has been shown to cause serous health issues. I have a friend who has spent over $6000 to fix a serious radon issue. Hardly easy or inexpensive.
None of which goes to explain your argument that the massive amount of spilled oil will be cleaned up by nature and the inference we shouldn’t worry about it.
"And Charlie! Light a match!"
.......How long will it take for those populations to return back to previous levels......
You have made an unwarranted assumption. You have assumed the previous level was normal or perhaps correct. You did not state the time considered previous.....preKatrina, post Katrina, precivil war, pre DDT abolition, post
Since levels are continuously variable, it doesn’t matter any way. An absence will be quickly filled by individuals looking for a better plce.
I bought a home with a radon problem and the fix was under $500 and consisted of nothing more than adequate ventilation in the basement, which was accomplished by drawing air from several points in the basement and forcing it outside via exhaust fan.
As for the oil problem in the Gulf. I’m not saying we shouldn’t so what we can but I do stand by my claim that nature will eventually take car of the problem.
“You have made an unwarranted assumption. You have assumed the previous level was normal or perhaps correct”
Pre-oil spill, pretty obvious from the context of the thread.
“An absence will be quickly filled by individuals looking for a better plce.”
Filled with what? Millions of people are being impacted by the oil and by the economic damage. Nobody really knows the impact to the wildlife or ecosystem of the gulf. The various dead carcasses on the beach are most likely only a fraction of the real numbers.
“I do stand by my claim that nature will eventually take car of the problem.”
Sure in 50 to 100 years.
Not. The fact that you can dig down and find some oil under rocks in PWS is not indicative of the status of recovery. Dr. Ed Overton (LSU environmental chemist) who has studied the PWS spill says that after five years, the ecology was largely recovered, despite the presence of subsurface oil. Ixtoc spill showed the same pattern, but the recovery was quicker. The BP spill effects will be largely gone in 2-3 years.
No, but it is a good indication. However, we have LOTS of data that says that the "nature can clean itself" DOES happen, and quite rapidly.
You been swimming in the Gulf?
‘The BP spill effects will be largely gone in 2-3 years. “
Perhaps the surface spill will be gone in 2-3 years. The wildlife and fish stock will not be. Nor will the economies of the gulf states be returned to normal. Heck the drilling platforms are just now starting to move out. With the long term contracts there is no way they’ll be back in that short of a time.
Considering it takes 2-3 years to build a drilling platform an entire industry is at risk. That industry has a whole lot of very powerful people who want to see it gone.
It wasn't cows but rather thousands of years of buffalo crap washing down the Platte to the Missouri and down the Missouri to the Mississippi and down the Mississippi to the Gulf.
You copied and wrote: “Oil is a naturally occurring substance and in time will dissipate. Uranium is also a naturally occurring substance.”
So I shouldn’t have read between the words and assumed you were being caustic about naturally occurring substances by pointing out a naturally occurring dangerous (but only when concentrated) substance?
PS: Much of our soil contains the naturally occurring poison Arsenic....should we put soil on the EPA hazardous substance list?
Yes, they will. There is PLENTY of data from multiple incidents that shows that ecological recovery is rapid.
After the Ixtoc spill, in the affected shoreline areas of Texas, NO difference could be detected after two years. I've posted the link to the Texas Bureau of Land Management studies elsewhere, but here's the URL once again :
"Nor will the economies of the gulf states be returned to normal. Heck the drilling platforms are just now starting to move out. With the long term contracts there is no way theyll be back in that short of a time. Considering it takes 2-3 years to build a drilling platform an entire industry is at risk. That industry has a whole lot of very powerful people who want to see it gone."
Yes, that's all true, but those aren't ecological effects, which is what I was referring to. Those are political effects, instituted by socialists to increase the power of government.
“So I shouldnt have read between the words “
No, making assumptions is dangerous just as naturally occurring uranium can be. Not as dangerous as refined uranium but still dangerous.
None of which changes the original context. This oil is not where it would normally be or in the concentrations it would be at if it occurred naturally (on the beach).
Minimizing the damage which is being done by this spill is naive at best.
“Yes, they will. There is PLENTY of data from multiple incidents that shows that ecological recovery is rapid.”
really, a 100 year old turtle is going to be born and grow old in the next 2 years? A 10 year old dolphin will suddenly be replaced?
Shellfish populations have been decimated. The oil has contaminated the sand surroudning their habitat. How will that subsurface oil evaporate or be cleaned out of the shellfish that have survived?
A lot, and you would need a constant supply. They can only tread water for so long.
Where did this come from?
Concentrated Uranium is found in Pitchblende
and is a naturally present material in some ores
Depleted Uranium U-238 is a product of Isotope separation
I hope you arn’t talking about Tritiated Methane
or Carbon-14 Methane
These would be separate subjects
Need more Caffeine this morning
To begin with, Methane Hydrate is a crystal form of Methane that occurs naturally on the sea floor in MUCH higher levels than this spill is generating. Especially in the Gulf. And this occurrence has been going on for thousands of years. There is a constant flow of methane, in huge volumes, being passed into the water on a day by day basis before oil was ever discovered.
As far as this spill effecting the marine life, fishing etc, the enviro-Nazi’s said the same thing about the Exxon Valdez accident. They claimed that Prince William Sound was forever destroyed and ruined and that the fishing industry would NEVER recover. The hype was intensive.
I had one of my very best fishing years (herring) the very next year (1990) about 1/2 mile from Bligh Reef. In fact, every season after that, the area close to the reef was the best place to fish. And PWS did recover fully in mere months and has ever since.
But I do agree that someone is naive here, especially the ones who make the most absolute drastic claims that “all is forever ruined”.
Modified harrows, drills, rototillers? Harvest only the smaller clams like they do now.
“There is a constant flow of methane, in huge volumes, being passed into the water on a day by day basis before oil was ever discovered.”
So you’re saying there is no difference in the amount of methane being released before the spill and now?
“As far as this spill effecting the marine life, fishing etc, the enviro-Nazis said the same thing about the Exxon Valdez accident.”
Fishing in the gulf was already in rough shape. Its not just the enviro-nazi’s that are saying there is a problem. Its the people who have made their living off the fishing for generations.
Two differences between PWS and the gulf. 1) PWS was a surface spill and not a deep water spill. 2) PWS was much much smaller.
I’ve never said all is forever ruined, I said it would take 50-100 years for nature to clean it up.
Well hey then there’s no reason to worry. Sure tourism is down 50%, fishing is closed in 1/3 of the gulf. Century old companies have closed down.
Its all good, just get a rototiller and get some oysters!
(Face in hands, elbows on desk...now to the keyboard). This is news to these professors?
Don’t blame me, see my tagline.
I thought you were talking about the oil under the surface of the sand or mud where the shellfish live.
As far as methane amounts in the Gulf due to Methane Hydrate, the amounts that are being time released into the water, fully dwarf the overall amounts that this well has released or ever will release.
Do some research into this yourself. As far as allowing the generations of ignorant fisherman who have an axe to grind over this, to make assessments into how long the damage will last, like the Exxon Valdez, these same fisherman were handsomely awarded and rewarded for their losses. But in reality, their fishing future was never better.
Mainly because the Oceans have a remarkable ability to adapt and recover. The bio-organisms that exist and thrive off of oil, will increase in proportion to the volume and the clean up will be rapid. Far more so than what the human race is capable of.
I know what you mean. I saw a video clip someplace of university researchers walking along a beach, looking shocked and practically throwing up their hands.
Amazing that they would be clinical in such situations. At least I think so.
I wonder if any of them have seen the stacks of dead dolphins, areas of dead fish, turtles, birds. People on here have talked about the smell of death in the air down there.
But it’s felony to photograph it. Gee, Katrina was a gold mine for them.......