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US orders BP to report on 'seep' at Gulf oil well
afp ^ | 7/15/10 | afp

Posted on 07/18/2010 7:34:15 PM PDT by Flavius

The US government has ordered BP to report on a "detected seep" and other "anomalies" near the Gulf of Mexico oil well as experts monitor the seabed for cracks after the months-long gusher was capped.

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1 posted on 07/18/2010 7:34:23 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Oh, well that sounds great.


2 posted on 07/18/2010 7:37:08 PM PDT by SoCalConstitutionalist
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To: Flavius

Never fear. Obama’s near.


3 posted on 07/18/2010 7:38:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: SoCalConstitutionalist

A seep is WAY better than a FLOOD, though!


5 posted on 07/18/2010 7:39:00 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: 2harddrive

they are saying you cant controll the pressure and are freaking out that other cracks in ocean floor may occur

so they rather go back to spewing excess pressure

my guess


6 posted on 07/18/2010 7:40:17 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: 2harddrive

Pump that oil hard and fast so we can mitigate the effects of the seep.


7 posted on 07/18/2010 7:41:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Flavius

While I consider Kook to Kook AM to be a pretty kooky radio show, they HAVE had some guest that talk about a twelve mile long crack in the seabed, gushing oil, and a huge methane bubble under the seabed that could erupt, causing untold disaster.


8 posted on 07/18/2010 7:42:38 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: cripplecreek

That sounds dirty


9 posted on 07/18/2010 7:44:43 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Flavius

It’s a sick well it seems.

The single casing design appears to have not been a good idea, as the second casing provides much the same safety as does a double bottom tanker. No idea why MMS approved this design when it was known the well depth was pushing current technology, increasing risks. You would think an organization like MMS would error on the safe side ...

Massive federal government regulation failure. What always happens to big incompetent government.


10 posted on 07/18/2010 7:45:09 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: Flavius
Whatever Soetoro and his ilk recommend, do the opposite. They create problems where none exist.
11 posted on 07/18/2010 7:46:07 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: Flavius
We have World class Imbeciles here, But maybe Little Barry found something on on vacation or the golf course, maybe at a Rat fund raiser that will help!
12 posted on 07/18/2010 7:49:00 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Flavius

No, to check the seep, they will have to remove the cap. Something in all this process that BP is fighting would allow Zero’s people to calculate the oil spilled and fine them another $20 billion plus.


13 posted on 07/18/2010 7:49:11 PM PDT by Ingtar (If he could have taxed it, Obama's hole would have been plugged by now.)
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To: cripplecreek

The BOP is swaying like I have never seen. I wonder if its seeping and kicking to cause the sway.


14 posted on 07/18/2010 7:51:17 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: 2harddrive
Look at current feed. Not looking like the other day.

http://www.jtnog.org/

15 posted on 07/18/2010 7:56:49 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Flavius

I thought DumBO was on top of this from day one? How is possible the Nobel Laureate at the DOE did not know this was happening, not to mention the smartest Pres__ent we have ever had.


16 posted on 07/18/2010 7:57:51 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (2012, the end of our long national nightmare.)
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To: All

http://www.bp.com/sectionbodycopy.do?categoryId=9034366&contentId=7063636


17 posted on 07/18/2010 7:58:12 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: cripplecreek

Brilliant! / no sarc


18 posted on 07/18/2010 8:13:43 PM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: Flavius

“they are saying you cant control the pressure and are freaking out that other cracks in ocean floor may occur”

Who’s saying that?


19 posted on 07/18/2010 8:16:04 PM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: Orange1998

I think that’s the ROV swaying - if it’s the BOP then the it’s all over for this wellhead.


20 posted on 07/18/2010 8:18:03 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: Flavius

“US government has ordered”

The American people have ordered the US government to mind it’s own damn business (if they can figure out what that is)

Either send in resources to clean up the mess or shut up!

Tell the Obamas to eat more lobster and latte’ or get another coconut ice cream cone you losers!


21 posted on 07/18/2010 8:21:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Flavius
Anybody know what this is measuring?


22 posted on 07/18/2010 8:22:24 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: SaxxonWoods

We should start seeing pressure drop if there is a leak.


23 posted on 07/18/2010 8:24:44 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Gone Galt and loving it)
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To: RushingWater

The ROV has the ability to keep balance which was demonstrated by the robotic arms doing amazing maneuvers. My opinion its the BOP making the scary sway.


24 posted on 07/18/2010 8:26:56 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: All

The concern all along - since pressure readings on the cap weren’t as high as expected - was a leak elsewhere in the wellbore, meaning the cap may have to be reopened to prevent the environmental disaster from becoming even worse and harder to fix.

http://www.aolnews.com/gulf-oil-spill/article/official-seep-found-near-bps-blown-out-oil-well/19558862


25 posted on 07/18/2010 8:36:46 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Orange1998

If you look at the E: and N: indicators, you will see that the ROV is indeed swaying.

If a ROV were using its claw to hang onto something, it would be steadier.

In this case, it is just floating/hanging.


26 posted on 07/18/2010 8:41:03 PM PDT by joedel
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To: AlexW

Heard a really good report that was like an hour long the other night on TRUNEWS http://www.trunews.com/


27 posted on 07/18/2010 8:47:58 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: Tarpon

No idea why MMS approved this design when it was known the well depth was pushing current technology, increasing risks.

Could be cause BP be the biggest single contributor to nobama campaign. Why would a cracker think such a thing?


28 posted on 07/18/2010 9:00:21 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember come November)
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To: pingman

Hard to type all links on my almost working iPhone


29 posted on 07/18/2010 9:01:19 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: cripplecreek

“”Pump that oil hard and fast so we can mitigate the effects of the seep.””

Right on...Right on...Right on...


30 posted on 07/18/2010 9:01:24 PM PDT by maxsand
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To: Flavius

This story makes no sense. The government is intimately involved with the tests, and has people in the room where the data is collected — so they don’t need a “report”.

Further, BP has been reporting on the bubbles coming up near the well, it’s in their dailing briefings, and they’ve discussed how they are analyzing it and what it might be.


31 posted on 07/18/2010 9:07:27 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: maxsand

Seems to me...and pardon...if they increase pressure to equilibrium it will either rise or fall. If the pressure falls, there is a leak. Check the gas lines in your home.


32 posted on 07/18/2010 9:07:38 PM PDT by maxsand
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To: Orange1998

The ROV that is showing the BOP is swaying.


33 posted on 07/18/2010 9:09:40 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RushingWater

It’s their seismic sweep, but I don’t know how to read it. Some sort of sonar mapping, looking to see if any there is any change in the substrata.


34 posted on 07/18/2010 9:12:44 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RushingWater

That may be the temperature reading. Should be about 40 degrees.


35 posted on 07/18/2010 9:14:38 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Further, BP has been reporting on the bubbles coming up near the well, it’s in their dailing briefings, and they’ve discussed how they are analyzing it and what it might be.

It is interesting to note however that these stories starting popping up right about the time that they did the testing on the gas sample of the leaking well head bubbles. Do not know what it could mean though. Some one trying to spread a scare story after good news deflated their balloon or someone sensationalizing the bad news story incorrectly.

36 posted on 07/18/2010 9:15:36 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

If the story that there IS a story is to be believed, it suggests that BP has decided it likes having the well closed, and wants to keep it that way, or else force the government to ORDER them to open the well, which would pretty much make any more oil in the gulf the government’s problem.


37 posted on 07/18/2010 9:30:08 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
So BP was hoping for a positive on Methane in the Well Head gas so the Government would order them to open up the well ? Tests show positive Methane. So then the government leaks this major seepage story to throw the political hot potato back in BPs lap ?

Or perhaps BP was hoping for negative Methane in the gas so they could keep the Well Head closed. Tests show negative Methane. Now the government wants it open cause it needs an accurate flow measurement for the spillage fines ? So they leak the seepage story.

Who the heck could figure out which scenario it is ? Perhaps there is yet a third possibility.

38 posted on 07/18/2010 9:44:45 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Flavius

Here are the 12 ROV feeds from the site .. do you see any “SEEPAGE”??? if not STFU (No fooense to you Flavius)

http://www.bp.com/sectionbodycopy.do?categoryId=9034366&contentId=7063636


39 posted on 07/18/2010 9:56:02 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Tarpon
"Massive federal government regulation failure. What always happens to big incompetent government."

MMS? Why...there's no-one name that.

,Just Change The Name:

Goodbye MMS: Oil Regulating Agency Gets Makeover

40 posted on 07/18/2010 10:09:42 PM PDT by blam
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General Thad Allen has reported the discovery of the seepage. Here is the quote from his letter posted on the Drum.

Start Excerpt

Dear Mr. Dudley, My letter to you on July 16, 2010 extended the Well Integrity Test period contingent upon the completion of seismic surveys, robust monitoring for indications of leakage, and acoustic testing by the NOAA vessel PISCES in the immediate vicinity of the well head. Given the current observations from the test, including the detected seep a distance from the well and undetermined anomalies at the well head, monitoring of the seabed is of paramount importance during the test period.

End Excerpt

So if that is really General Allens letter, seepage is a fact. And you will probably never see it on a public squiddy (ROV). My guess - They blew a hole into a second higher up reservoir area and are now filling it up. That matches perfect with the pressure anomalies. That higher up reservoir area was empty because it seeps. While this is not the worse case scenario, it does create one big cluster puck. IMHO.

41 posted on 07/18/2010 10:11:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Orange1998

Seepage will cause the seabed to liquefy rendering the confining clay around the driven conductor (the wellhead foundation) unstable. It is called piping flow and the instability created by this is the same reason a filter blanket is used in dam construction to relieve seepage and prevent piping flow from eroding the dam.

Shutting in this well is a disaster in the making. The casing is failed, holed or suspect. The risks and horrible consequences of a broach are too great to have risked shutting in. It needs to be produced. It should have been produced to the Nakika pipeline system two months ago.

BP are idiots of the highest order. Whomever is consulting to them is being ignored or just as inept as they are.

Good job BPutz, it isn’t good enough that you have destroyed the offshore oil industry... you have to make it still worse.

Damn fools.


42 posted on 07/18/2010 10:36:35 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Unless it has been leaking all along and all that is being seen is the flowing wellhead pressure. Entirely possible.

The pressure would rise until the fracture gradient at the leak is reached and the flow reaches steady state at the back pressure of the fracture gradient. If the leak point is low enough this will persist until the zone that is accepting the leak becomes charged with oil and gas, the pressure exceeds the fracture / overburden pressure and a broach cascades to the surface or the next zone further up in the strata. Saw it in the South China Sea... on another BP disaster that never got any press because it was all gas.


43 posted on 07/18/2010 10:41:46 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: justa-hairyape

And you sir are probably pretty close to being right.

They are probably seeing the invasion of gas into upper strata on the shallow seismic already.


44 posted on 07/18/2010 10:45:28 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Sequoyah101
Unless it has been leaking all along and all that is being seen is the flowing wellhead pressure. Entirely possible.

That is a possibility. The seep was just a natural one. Been then before they started drilling even. But what are the odds ? Any geologists what to comment ? Perhaps to accurately determine the odds we need the precise distance between Maconda and seep.

45 posted on 07/18/2010 10:45:34 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

The shallow seismic that should have been done to clear the location before drilling would have picked up any shallow hydrocarbon accumulations. These are called shallow hazard surveys and we do them because shallow hydrocarbons are hard to manage before the pressure string / BOP is connected. They are almost always biogenic gas and fizzy water of little consequence. Shallow water flows on the other hand cause foundation problems but are not an environmental hazard.


46 posted on 07/18/2010 10:48:16 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Sequoyah101

So they must be monitoring the flow volume through the seep ? Or can they do that accurately ?


47 posted on 07/18/2010 10:51:06 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Nope. If there is a seep and if they are monitoring it Qualatative measurement is all they can hope for.

IF, and this is a big if, they knew the size of the exit hole in the casing the volume could be estimated from the pressure and opening relationship. Just a choke equation IF they knew the pressure and the size of the hole.

They haven’t been able to do this in the past even when they had a hole of known size (the riser) and pressures upstream and downstream of the hole so I doubt they can now. Missed some great opportunities to get solid data when they joyfully whacked the riser off.

These people should never play chess because they can’t figure out more than one move at a time.


48 posted on 07/18/2010 10:57:04 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Sequoyah101

How could this scenario complicate the Relief Well operation ?


49 posted on 07/18/2010 11:01:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Dynamic kill, the ultimate goal of the relief well(s), requires the ability to shut-in against the remaining pressure (what the mud doesn’t provide). A broach would prevent that pressure from being applied for one thing.

This however, is one of several problems with the relief well operation. I doubt they have yet figured out how they are going to get that 16 ppg dual gradient kill mud to turn the corner in a 14.5ish ppg fracture gradient single gradient relief well.

Of course, they have the best minds in the world working on this project so the rest of us that have been doing this sort of thing for the last three decades can’t possibly tell them anything they don’t already know.


50 posted on 07/18/2010 11:07:27 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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