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Border Authorities Uncover A Cache of Weapons Inside A Vehicle At A Checkpoint Near San Ysidro
LATimes ^ | July 19th, 2010

Posted on 07/19/2010 8:49:28 PM PDT by Steelfish

Border Authorities Uncover A Cache of Weapons Inside A Vehicle At A Checkpoint Near San Ysidro July 19, 2010 Border authorities inspecting cars heading into Mexico on Saturday discovered a cache of ammunition and weapons, including five machine guns, hidden inside a Nissan, according to officials with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency.

Also concealed inside the speaker box of the vehicle were two handguns, dozens of rounds of ammunition and tactical gear. The weapons were discovered at a checkpoint on Interstate 5 at the San Ysidro Port of Entry, just north of the U.S.-Mexico border. The driver, a 19-year-old man whose identity was not disclosed, was arrested, authorities said.

The inspections are part of an effort by the federal government to curtail the flow of weapons and money fueling the drug war in Mexico.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; banglist; border; mexico; narcoterror; sandiego; sanysidro; warnextdoor

1 posted on 07/19/2010 8:49:30 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

the driver, a 19-year-old , .. and he had such a promising career as a smuggler too.. until he got caught.


2 posted on 07/19/2010 8:51:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: Steelfish
Border authorities inspecting cars heading into Mexico on Saturday discovered a cache of ammunition and weapons, including five machine guns, hidden inside a Nissan, according to officials with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency.

I'm sure the smuggler bought those at a local gun shop.

3 posted on 07/19/2010 8:54:51 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Steelfish

Dozens of rounds of ammunition?!?! This guy is a walking talking demolitio man!


4 posted on 07/19/2010 8:56:08 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: Inyo-Mono

He must have bought those machine guns at a gun show. /s


5 posted on 07/19/2010 9:01:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: DryFly

5 machine guns. He may have heard of a major anti-handgun party in San Diego.


6 posted on 07/19/2010 9:07:46 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Was this poor, benighted man just clinging to his guns and Bible, or was there another motive?


7 posted on 07/19/2010 9:11:11 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Steelfish

Bet those weren’t machine guns. Probably just semis that looked like they could be machine guns. LA Times reporters wouldn’t know the difference, and if they did, they’d lie about it anyway.

Aside from a very few legally registered and transferable machine guns that are worth thousands of dollars to collectors, there’s simply no supply of machine guns in this country.

You could smuggle them in from other countries, but then, why smuggle them into the U.S. first rather than directly into Mexico? Or, you could manufacture a machine gun by converting a semi-auto. But again, why risk doing that here in the U.S. rather than doing it in Mexico instead? Only morons would smuggle into the U.S. or make illegal machine guns and then smuggle them into Mexico.

Guarantee you that these were not machine guns and that the LA Times is simply lying. I would love to see the original press releases from the border agents.


8 posted on 07/19/2010 9:15:03 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the Right Stuff!)
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To: catnipman

Here is a link to the cbp release:
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/news_releases/local/07132010.xml


9 posted on 07/19/2010 9:23:23 PM PDT by La Lydia
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From original release:

In total, CBP officers found: an MG42 7.92 universal machine gun, a SA43 7.62 X54R MM machine gun, 680 rounds of ammunition, including 280 7.62 caliber rounds, 100 8mm caliber rounds, 100 22LR caliber rounds, and 200.233 caliber rounds, and two boxes of machine gun ammunition links, used to fashion an automated belt for the machine gun ammunition.

10 posted on 07/19/2010 9:24:28 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
CBP officers found: an MG42 7.92 universal machine gun, a SA43 7.62 X54R MM machine gun

Don't know about MG42, it's a pre-WWII German design, but SA43 seems to be a semi-auto imitation of SG43 which saw a lot of action in WWII. Here is the manual in case you need to know how to operate yours :-)

11 posted on 07/19/2010 9:41:43 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: La Lydia

Weirder and weirder. The MG42 was a German machine gun used in WWII and manufactured up until 1945. So, what is a brand-new looking pair of these things doing strapped under the hood of an F-150 pickup heading into Mexico?

Only a few likely possibilities:

1. These are “parts kits” that are legal and non-functional, as they are missing the part that makes them fully functional.

2. These are fully automatic MG42s brought back by a returning WWII soldier and never registered, and some punk found them in a closet of a really old guy and stole them.

3. These are legally registered machine guns stolen from their rightful owner. Not likely. These things would be worth an absolute fortune and kept very secure by their owner. Though if indeed stolen, these would be impossible to sell in the U.S., so taking them to Mexico would make sense.

4. Recently smuggled into the U.S. from east/west Europe via some “French Connection”? Doesn’t seem likely at all.

Quite frankly, smuggling fully automatic MG42’s into Mexico from the U.S. makes no sense whatsoever. Absolutely has to be morons involved. At any rate, we’re not looking at big time reliable machine gun smugglers here with some kind of connection that lets them supply armies of drug cartel enforcers. Just some stupid punk who’s been watching too much TV and smoking too much dope.


12 posted on 07/19/2010 9:47:44 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the Right Stuff!)
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To: catnipman

MG42s are currently being manufactured in Yugoslavia for export markets. They are availabe in the original 8x57mm and 7.62 Nato (308 Winchester) I have seen them in pictures of Pakistani Army operations.


13 posted on 07/19/2010 10:27:09 PM PDT by JayVee (Joseph)
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To: Steelfish

Some moron posted this in the comments section,

“This is yet another example of how the U.S. exports violence to our neighbors to the south. It is our nation that is responsible for all of the mayhem that is occuring south of our border, it is our country of so called casual drug users that creates the demand for the illegal narcotic trade, it is our country that is supplying all of the weapons and ammunition to these cartel gangs. As an American citizen I am ashamed and I take responsibilty for all that we do wrong, unlike the masses who continue to shift the blame elsewhere. If u have ever taken or tried drugs, if you have ever shot or owned a gun then look in the mirror, it is your fault too.

Posted by: u know | July 19, 2010 at 10:07 PM”


14 posted on 07/19/2010 11:24:41 PM PDT by BlueStateMadness (Two commonly violated premises: you can save people from themselves, and the free lunch myth)
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To: BlueStateMadness

What you have is a profile of an Obama voter. Idiotic beyond repair.


15 posted on 07/19/2010 11:37:09 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Greysard

Thanks. I somehow misplaced my manual and the thing has just been sitting in the hall closet! :)


16 posted on 07/20/2010 4:58:43 AM PDT by La Lydia
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“including five machine guns, “

First, customs reports show most weapons coming into Mexico are shipped from Venezuala.

Second, are they really “machine guns?” Leftist writers are stupid and would call a seed broadcaster a “machine gun.”

Finally, look for BATF fingerprints on the weapons. I wouldn’t put it past those government-sponsored terrorists to stage incidents like this.


17 posted on 07/20/2010 6:05:06 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Steelfish

This is the second set up story in as many weeks.

Since when are US authorities charged with security for Mexico?


18 posted on 07/20/2010 6:08:27 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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Don't you know anything? Machine guns like these are available at gun shows and Wal-Marts all across the US. That's why Obama needs to give Mexican authorities and drug gangs access to American firearm transfer records.

</sarcasm>

19 posted on 07/20/2010 7:56:43 AM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: Inyo-Mono
I'm sure the smuggler bought those at a local gun shop.

Of course he bought them at a local gun shop. He was also driving a Nissan (not Government Motors) SUV while listening to a conservation talk show on the radio.

20 posted on 07/20/2010 8:46:36 AM PDT by TYVets
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"there’s simply no supply of machine guns in this country."

Yes there is, but you are probably not on the list of those who need to know where it is and how to requisition them.

21 posted on 07/20/2010 12:26:32 PM PDT by An Old Man
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>>Guarantee you that these were not machine guns and that the LA Times is simply lying.<<

Next time, read the article before you go guaranteeing anything. IF CBP say there was MGs then I’ll bet they were there.


22 posted on 07/20/2010 2:24:07 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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To: Greysard

I’m so envious of his guns that he got confiscated. I’ve been saving up to get an SA43 for a while now. I love belt fed’s.


23 posted on 07/20/2010 3:43:31 PM PDT by Dayman
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To: Steelfish
including five machine guns, hidden inside a Nissan, according to officials with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency

Which of course were purchased at Gun Shows in California. ;)

Heck even DoD contractors in CA need hard to obtain special permits to even think about firing full auto weapons. Which has caused some issues with testing devices designed to be mounted on such weapons. In one case they used Hollyweird rifles, which use different blanks(lots more flash), and a different method of keeping the gas pressure high enough to cycle the weapon. Needless to say, tuning the devices to detect firing of such Hollyweird weapons resulted in none optimum operation, read FAILURE, when the devices were mounted on real M-16s, M4s, etc.

24 posted on 07/21/2010 11:34:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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