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Wal-Mart's new smart tags on men's clothes worry privacy experts
AP via Houston Chronicle ^ | 7-23-2010 | ANNE D'INNOCENZIO

Posted on 07/23/2010 2:37:58 PM PDT by deport

NEW YORK — Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is putting electronic identification tags on men's clothing like jeans starting Aug. 1 as the world's largest retailer tries to gain more control of its inventory. But the move is raising eyebrows among privacy experts.

The individual garments, which also includes underwear and socks, will have removable smart tags that can be read from a distance by Wal-Mart workers with scanners. In seconds, the worker will be able to know what sizes are missing and will also be able tell what it has on hand in the stock room. Such instant knowledge will allow store clerks to have the right sizes on hand when shoppers need them.

The tags work by reflecting a weak radio signal to identify the product. They have long spurred privacy fears as well as visions of stores being able to scan an entire shopping cart of items at one time. ......

"This is a first piece of a very large and very frightening tracking system," said Katherine Albrecht, director of a group called Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering.

Albrecht worries that Wal-Mart and others would be able to track movements of customers who in some border states like Michigan and Washington are carrying new driver's licenses that contain RFID tags to make it easier for them to cross borders.

Albrecht fears that retailers could scan data from such licenses and their purchases and combine that data with other personal information. She also says that even though the smart tags can be removed from clothing, they can't be turned off and can be tracked even after you throw them in the garbage, for example. ....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: capitalismstinks; moneyisacrime; ntsa; rfid; smarttags; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah; walmart
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To: deport

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41 posted on 07/23/2010 3:05:49 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: OnTheDress

Manny can be killed by simple flexing.

Like if you bend open a paperclip and flex
it a few times the metal fatigues and breaks.


42 posted on 07/23/2010 3:06:30 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Live and let live; is not working...)
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To: deport
"In seconds, the worker will be able to know what sizes are missing and will also be able tell what it has on hand in the stock room. Such instant knowledge will allow store clerks to have the right sizes on hand when shoppers need them."

This inventory is already automatically done at the register. When you buy a product, it is automatically removed from the store's inventory. They already know how many items are in stock. There's another motive for this.

43 posted on 07/23/2010 3:07:13 PM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: OnTheDress; Manny

Not Manny, Many, I like Manny too much to kill him.


44 posted on 07/23/2010 3:08:05 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Live and let live; is not working...)
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To: OnTheDress

“Manny can be killed by simple flexing.”

Why would you want to kill poor Manny?

And wouldn’t stabbing him be easier than ‘flexing’ him?

:0)


45 posted on 07/23/2010 3:08:28 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: deport

The only problem I see here is the driver’s license with RFID.

That is very wrong.

That allows tracking individuals who are carrying their license wherever they go. The license will have to be put into a shielded wallet/purse to avoid it...

As usual, the problem is with government, not industry.


46 posted on 07/23/2010 3:09:22 PM PDT by DB
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To: deport

Besides, they can get all this
info and more formed the scanned
UPC codes at checkout 9real time).

This seems unnecessary to me.


47 posted on 07/23/2010 3:10:54 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Live and let live; is not working...)
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To: Ed Condon

Fortunately, there is an irrigation canal nearby.


48 posted on 07/23/2010 3:14:16 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Just get all your friends to help you save up about 1000 of them, take them back into the store and hide them under a stack at the bottom of the jeans counter, and watch the fun begin!

Good idea. I think that just returning the occasional tag to the stack of jeans will thwart their inventory system. Imagine the look on the manager's face - "we sold most of our inventory, our shelves are empty, and yet we have more pairs of jeans than we had 3 months ago."

49 posted on 07/23/2010 3:14:57 PM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: OnTheDress

And there is a flaw with RFID as well.

Trying to scan an entire shopping cart would be almost futile.

First. They’d have to know what is in the cart to begin with and how many ‘items’ need to be scanned.

Second. They may not pick up every item (I know, because I have to constantly ‘rescan’ missed items in my job so the count is correct).

Third. If the RFID isn’t scanned or is ‘missed’ what happens when you go through the security scanner at the door?

Instant shoplifter!

There would be no way to prove you purchased the item, because the receipt would not show it.


50 posted on 07/23/2010 3:15:21 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: OnTheDress

It’s them Bildebergers. They wants to control the world by tracking my skivvies.


51 posted on 07/23/2010 3:16:27 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: thackney
Not TO YOU. But what business doesn't track purchases for inventory, marketing and trending purposes? Even a successful drug or arms dealer knows what sells and what doesn't ;-)
52 posted on 07/23/2010 3:16:29 PM PDT by PurVirgo (Smeg!)
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To: thackney
Not TO YOU. But what business doesn't track purchases for inventory, marketing and trending purposes? Even a successful drug or arms dealer knows what sells and what doesn't. Guess I should have been more clear ;-)
53 posted on 07/23/2010 3:17:39 PM PDT by PurVirgo (Smeg!)
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To: deport

Search “made in USA.”
If you only buy products made in the USA, you’ll probably never wind up in Walmart.
There are also thrift shops in most communities, if you must acquire the products of Asian sweatshops.


54 posted on 07/23/2010 3:17:44 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (668, neighbor of the beast, is tagline enough)
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To: discostu

And the RFID Drivers licenses can be blocked with a simple cover, just like the new passport cases that incorporate a faraday cage liner.


55 posted on 07/23/2010 3:20:07 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: MarkeyD
I read that in the future those tags will be able to read your thoughts and then will be able to report you to the police about future crimes you will commit.

I missed the memo, but I did see the movie ;-)

Minority Report

56 posted on 07/23/2010 3:20:38 PM PDT by GizmosAndGadgets (That given freely is charity; Taken by force, theft; Stolen by the government, tyranny.)
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To: OnTheDress
Manny can be killed by simple flexing.

Manny Mota? Is he that stiff?

57 posted on 07/23/2010 3:20:42 PM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: deport
"Albrecht worries that Wal-Mart and others would be able to track movements of customers who in some border states like Michigan and Washington are carrying new driver's licenses that contain RFID tags to make it easier for them to cross borders. "

Okay you young folks...here's a business waiting to happen.

I would buy small credit card size envelopes to put my drivers licenses and credit cards in my wallet...something better (more durable) than a simple alum foil envelope will probably sell once this (RFID) news is known.

58 posted on 07/23/2010 3:20:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: deport
I think a lot of people are missing the point of the privacy concern.

It is not about the tags in the jeans. It's about the store being set up to scan RFIDs. If they are not selective, then they will see all RFIDs, including the one in a Washington or Michigan driver's license in the wallet of a shopper.

They could have a point.

59 posted on 07/23/2010 3:21:03 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: A CA Guy

Well, most stores have cameras, yet you’re still complaining about theft. This will make theft, particularly small scale theft like price switching, much easier to accomplish without being detected. You can use a device in your pocket to switch a price on something, which is very difficult to detect on a camera. Without the RFID, where you’d have to physically switch the price tags, which is relatively easy to see on cameras.


60 posted on 07/23/2010 3:22:36 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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