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GOP Senate Candidate Ken Buck Calls Birthers "Dumbasses" (CO)
CBSNews.com ^ | July 26, 2010 | Jaywon Choe

Posted on 07/26/2010 1:11:24 PM PDT by Hawk720

Colorado Republican Senate candidate Ken Buck has once again talked himself into some trouble - this time by calling certain tea-party activists "dumbasses" for questioning the legitimacy of President Obama's birth certificate.

According to the Denver Post, Buck was caught on tape saying in June, "Will you tell those dumbasses at the Tea Party to stop asking questions about birth certificates while I'm on camera." He added, laughing: "God, what am I supposed to do?"

Buck was speaking to a Democratic operative who had secretly recorded the conversation.

Buck, who enjoys strong support from the Tea Party movement, has since somewhat walked back the remarks, though he focused on language, not content.

"I'm not suggesting the language was appropriate," Buck told the Post today. "But after 16 months of being on the campaign trail, I was tired and frustrated that I can't get that message through that we are going to go off a cliff if we don't start dealing with this debt."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: co2010; kenbuck; naturalborncitizen
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To: Responsibility2nd
So. You think TEA Partiers are dumbasses, huh?

If you think everyone, are even 10% of the those that supports the T parties does so over the Birth BS. We know who and where the dumbas* are.

51 posted on 07/26/2010 1:48:40 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Red Steel

The problem with Jane is - if you look up McCain RINO in the dictionary ... there’s Jane’s picture.

I’m a Republican Committeeman and I still can’t figure out where they dredge these idiots up from.


52 posted on 07/26/2010 1:50:00 PM PDT by JoeVet (First rule of holes ... when you find yourself standing in one - stop digging ... unless ur a Dim)
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To: wideawake
“Will you tell those dumbasses at the Tea Party to stop asking questions about birth certificates while I'm on camera.”

The exact meaning of this sentence is up for debate. You can see it either that those asking the questions are “dumbasses” or that the the Tea Party is comprised of “dumbasses”. I wouldnt be too confident in declaring his intentions either way. The one “dumbass” move that is not debatable is a GOP candidate commiserating with a Dem Party tracker.

53 posted on 07/26/2010 1:50:07 PM PDT by mthom
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To: Tarpon
Aren’t the real dumb-asses those that will not demand proof of natural born citizenship?

Obama provided all that was requested of him in order to qualify for the presidential run.

Birthers are asking for a do-over.

54 posted on 07/26/2010 1:53:04 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Godebert; wideawake
You’re a coward.

He's not a coward at all.

A coward is someone who refuses to recognize the truth over what he would prefer. Worse yet, some cowards attack those who threaten their foundation-less insistence when what they believe is challenged.

We would all really like to see Obama run out of office in disgrace, but it's not going to happen by hijacking the campaigns of GOP candidates.

55 posted on 07/26/2010 1:53:14 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: longtermmemmory
no matter how you slice it the birth certificate issue is a non-starter.

If you buy into the liberal media spin it is, but that's likely not the reality:


Not even 4 in 10 believe Obama birth story Magazine boasts 63% think president born somewhere in the states; June 29, 2010 8:17 pm Eastern


-snip-

"Not even four in 10 people across America believe President Obama's narrative about being born in Hawaii, according to a new poll.

A new 60 Minutes–Vanity Fair poll shows that only 39 percent of respondents believe Obama was born in Hawaii as he wrote in his book.

The magazine boasted, "A whopping 63 percent – very nearly two-thirds of us – went out on a limb and stated for the record that we believe in the United States. It's enough to make you proud to be an American – or 63 percent proud, at any rate."..."

-end snip-

56 posted on 07/26/2010 1:53:40 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Hawk720
He added, laughing: "God, what am I supposed to do?"

I don't know. What is it that you plan to swear to do with your hand on a Bible?

57 posted on 07/26/2010 1:53:53 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (For the record, McCarthy was right.)
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To: roostercogburn

Without the rule of law, we can’t solve any of the “bigger problems”.

The rule of law is the crux of all the issues we face. If we back down on that we’ve cut off our own legs and wonder why we can’t stand.


58 posted on 07/26/2010 1:54:01 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Hawk720

It is up to people like him to raise the issue to the level of a court challenge and like all the others he gives it a pass.


59 posted on 07/26/2010 1:54:08 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: Tatze

I have basically called you out as an Obama Troll twice.

And I’ve stated you think TEA Partiers are dumbasses.

Twice.

And twice you replied to my posts. And twice you never refuted them or denied what I said.

Now you want us to believe you ARE NOT a DU troll and you do not believe TEA Partiers are dumbasses?

Too late pal. Your own posts prove who and what you are.


60 posted on 07/26/2010 1:55:08 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: JoeVet

I know....


61 posted on 07/26/2010 1:55:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Smokin' Joe
Yeah. it's all the nasty medeia's fault for leaking the tape. WAKE UP! If he hadn't said it, there would be nothing to leak. If he is fool enough to make such comments to the media to give them such things to leak, just how damned smart is he?

Reading the article, it seems that a Democrat operative secretly recorded him during a private conversation with someone he took to be a supporter.

I suppose the solution is that no candidate should ever say anything off-script in the presence of anyone who has not been strip-searched for recording devices.

Otherwise, the candidate is apparently a "fool."

That isn't a knee-jerk reaction. It is an evaluation of intelligence and capability of someone who is running for a position in which every remark they make in front of a camera or microphone has consequence.

He was neither in front of a camera or a microphone as far as he knew. You didn't read the article carefully - which doesn't really lend a lot of support to the notion that this is an "evaluation" rather than a kneejerk reaction.

If they don't get that 101 type reality of the political arena, they're mincemeat around the savvy politicians in a legislature.

In other words, the default attitude of a candidate at all times should be complete paranoia.

Let's step back a do a real evaluation.

A Democrat operative sneakily lied his way into an unguarded, off-the-cuff private conversation with a GOP candidate. And the absolute worst that they could come up with to alienate his base is that he thinks that individuals who think that Obama's constitutional fitness is the key to winning over the indepedent voters the GOP needs are dumbasses.

If that's the worst they could come up with - i.e. that he has a realistic assessment of how to win a general election - then this whole story is a ringing endorsement of Buck.

62 posted on 07/26/2010 1:55:49 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Myrddin

Well, now, if one wants to pick nits, sometimes the specifics as to what “just enough to get the job done adequately” are decided by someone else. And your UAW guy is not him.


63 posted on 07/26/2010 1:56:47 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: al_c

I’m a dumbass too, Kenny.


64 posted on 07/26/2010 1:56:47 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: Hawk720

Nothing to see here, folks. Just another RINO coming out of his closet.


65 posted on 07/26/2010 1:56:53 PM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: Da Coyote

Excuse me. You are the idiot who does not realize that Ken Buck is running for Senate. Maes and McInnis are running for gov.

Now that we know who the idiot is in this conversation, who do you want as our nominee for Senate. Known RINO Jane Norton or Ken Buck. In this case I will take Buck every time over beltway Jane.


66 posted on 07/26/2010 1:57:12 PM PDT by Illuminatas (Obama - Dumber Than Bush!)
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To: mthom
The one “dumbass” move that is not debatable is a GOP candidate commiserating with a Dem Party tracker.

He was not aware that this person was a Democrat operative. I doubt if he would have had an unguarded conversation with such an individual.

67 posted on 07/26/2010 1:57:17 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Red Steel

I am not, if you noticed, dealing with that issue. I am clearly stating that we should be asking the congressional cadidates about the issues they WILL BE VOTING on.

Will they vote to make the Bush tax cuts permanent?
Will they reduce the national DEBT?
Will they reduce the national deficit?
Will they eliminate obamacare?


68 posted on 07/26/2010 1:57:39 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 70times7

His comment asking what he’s supposed to do about would indicate that he feels it’s a waste of his time. But that’s no reason to call others dumbasses for working on it or being concerned about it.

The fact of the matter is that it’s a waste of time to pass laws, if they’re never going to be enforced anyway. And this whole thing with Obama has happened because laws have not been enforced and the people who could have done something about it....... were too busy calling me and my fellow concerned Americans dumbasses for caring about the rule of law.

The people who are real dumbasses are the ones who spend their time passing laws that will never be enforced anyway. Talk about a real waste of time!


69 posted on 07/26/2010 1:58:36 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Hawk720
According to the Denver Post, Buck was caught on tape saying in June, "Will you tell those dumbasses at the Tea Party to stop asking questions about birth certificates while I'm on camera." He added, laughing: "God, what am I supposed to do?"

The dumbass was opposed to Amtrak, so it's good to see him self-destruct on other issues.

70 posted on 07/26/2010 2:00:24 PM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to the beat of a different drum - and some people polka")
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To: Responsibility2nd; wideawake
Go back to DU, troll.

wideawake is hardly a troll ... and sure doesn't belong at DU.

wide posted an opinion. Everyone's got one ... lighten up.

71 posted on 07/26/2010 2:01:25 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

So if it’s so simple ... Why is the jug-eared jackass hiding the truth? Just really weird way to act, spend millions to defend something that is so obvious.


72 posted on 07/26/2010 2:03:40 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Generally I agree with that approach.

But after having the HDOH break so many laws right in my face I can tell you that just passing any law is not going to do the job. Hawaii’s laws and rules should have ended this whole hoax before Obama got anywhere. But Fukino hid those rules, disobeyed the rules and laws, made deceptive public announcements, and failed to report a known forgery and perjury.

None of those laws or rules made one lick of difference because the people who were supposed to follow them just farted in everybody’s face. And there wasn’t a dang thing any of us could do about it because we can’t charge government officials with crimes.

Until government, media, and law enforcement KNOW that the people are able to hold them accountable BEFORE the damage is already done, no laws we pass make any difference.

That’s where we’re at right now. We are Mexico.

And THAT is why I doubt the conservative worldview of anybody who poo-poohs this issue. If they don’t know the importance of the rule of law and the protections the Founding Fathers placed against absolute power, they don’t “get it”.


73 posted on 07/26/2010 2:05:04 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Red Steel
This is clearly where public opinion falls. However, many of those who don't buy the Hawaii narrative simply don't care.

They do care deeply about unemployment and taxes and corruption and bailouts.

I'll guess if these same people were polled and asked if they would vote for a candidate whose first priority was jobs and tax relief, or a candidate whose first priority was exposing Obama that 9 times out of 10 they would vote for the former.

74 posted on 07/26/2010 2:05:44 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: ThomasNast
The fact that he can conceal the truth and that 90% of Americans are OK with that is scary.

True that. Makes ya wonder what else has been concealed, eh?

75 posted on 07/26/2010 2:05:47 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No, what you have done is attributed thoughts and positions to me that are not mine! For a newbie, you sure do throw that troll term around quite a bit. Look in the mirror, newbie.


76 posted on 07/26/2010 2:11:54 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Hawk720
It seems to me that all a candidate needs to do is say “PFL BO needs to produce his birth certificate. What is he afraid of? McCain did so when concerns were raised.” It is a small part of an unbelievably target rich campaign environment.

Seems simple enough to me.

77 posted on 07/26/2010 2:12:47 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (The new improved version of NUC 1. This version will remember his password.)
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To: Hawk720
"God, what am I supposed to do?"

Follow Ronald Reagan's lead, we must "Trust, but verify".

78 posted on 07/26/2010 2:19:38 PM PDT by RJL (Sarah Palin/Paul Ryan in 2012)
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To: wideawake

From the Politico article it seems he did know.

“Loftus said that Buck, whose candidacy has been fueled in part by Tea Party members uninspired by one-time GOP frontrunner Jane Norton, was aware he was speaking to a Democratic tracker and simply made a mistake.”


79 posted on 07/26/2010 2:20:54 PM PDT by mthom
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To: wideawake
This is clearly where public opinion falls. However, many of those who don't buy the Hawaii narrative simply don't care.

Then it's a wash with them. However, the intransigence by Obama for not putting his eligibility issue to rest is not helping him.

They do care deeply about unemployment and taxes and corruption and bailouts. I'll guess if these same people were polled and asked if they would vote for a candidate whose first priority was jobs and tax relief, or a candidate whose first priority was exposing Obama that 9 times out of 10 they would vote for the former.

No one is asking that Ken Buck or the Republicans to run on the eligibility issue as one of their main planks, but Buck did make a mistake where he's in a tight race. He now knows it. And even in unguarded moments, he should be on his best behavior, which should go without saying.

80 posted on 07/26/2010 2:21:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Responsibility2nd; Tatze

Waht’s amazing about your posts is that most 6th graders understand why the “when did you stop beating your wife?” argument is fallacious.


81 posted on 07/26/2010 2:22:13 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Hawk720

Buck is correct.


82 posted on 07/26/2010 2:23:04 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Probably because there is no real evidence to their story.

Obama is a scumbag. However, I have yet to see any real evidence that he’s not a natural born citizen.


83 posted on 07/26/2010 2:25:07 PM PDT by Hoodlum91 (There's a strange odor coming from the White House. Smells like BO.)
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To: r9etb

It’s more accurate to say that Buck was being ignorant.


84 posted on 07/26/2010 2:25:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: r9etb

He was?

Really? Was he correct to call TEA Partiers ‘dumbasses’?

Or was he correct when he backed off that remark.

Nobody likes a two-faced ‘John Kerry’.


85 posted on 07/26/2010 2:25:51 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: mthom
it seems he did know

Well, the Politico says :

Loftus said that Buck . . . was aware he was speaking to a Democratic tracker

Yet it does not quote her on the record to that effect.

In the context of his comment ("will you tell") it doesn't make much sense.

86 posted on 07/26/2010 2:27:49 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Red Steel
It’s more accurate to say that Buck was being ignorant.

He's saying that there are far more important issues than Obama's birth certificate, and he is quite correct.

Anybody who thinks that headlining the BC issue is anything other than a sure-fire method for joining the whackadoodle gallery really is a dumbass.

87 posted on 07/26/2010 2:29:19 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Hawk720

So THAT is why Buck has the endorsement of the left-wing Colorado Springs Independent.


88 posted on 07/26/2010 2:29:38 PM PDT by cookcounty ("Today's White House reporters seem one ball short of a ping pong scrimmage.")
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To: Hawk720

So THAT is why Buck has the endorsement of the left-wing Colorado Springs Independent.


89 posted on 07/26/2010 2:31:05 PM PDT by cookcounty ("Today's White House reporters seem one ball short of a ping pong scrimmage.")
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To: cookcounty
So THAT is why Buck has the endorsement of the left-wing Colorado Springs Independent.

The Independent made endorsements on both sides. You can read them for yourself HERE.

If reading is your style, of course....

90 posted on 07/26/2010 2:38:10 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: cookcounty

And, actually, they didn’t even “endorse” Buck — they “recommended” him on the grounds that “we’d prefer to see the strongest, clearest distinctions between the two parties’ candidates going into November.”


91 posted on 07/26/2010 2:40:09 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: wideawake

“In the context of his comment (”will you tell”) it doesn’t make much sense.”

Only if you think he really wanted the guy he was talking to to physically go and tell the Tea Party to stop asking those questions. It was rhetorical of course and Ill go with the Politico until the campaign says otherwise.


92 posted on 07/26/2010 2:42:44 PM PDT by mthom
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
I do not understand the attacks on Birthers by GOPers....

The left has successfully framed the birth certificate issue, and thus birthers, as on the fringe and wacko.

Nothing anyone does will change this. True, if Obama is truly not a Natural Born Citizen, then yes, his being president is a clear violation of the Constitution, and it is a serious matter. That doesn't change the fact that anyone espousing any kind of sympathy for the birther position is going to be savaged by the media.

Anyone who doesn't see and accept this reality is, in fact, a dumbass.

93 posted on 07/26/2010 3:09:03 PM PDT by Washi
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To: wideawake

I agree. They are as valuable to our side as the “Bush stole the election” crowd was to the Democrats.


94 posted on 07/26/2010 3:36:28 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Hawk720

Idiot. Btw, Idi (May I call you “Idi”), the Tea Party has no stand on the birth certificate matter. It’s not part of their platform or goals or whatever you want to call it.


95 posted on 07/26/2010 3:36:55 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (There is neither honesty, manhood nor good fellowship in thee.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

But nobody, not even the subject of this article, has said what you are accusing people of. You are making it up out of thin air. The Tea Party movement was never about a birth certificate.


96 posted on 07/26/2010 3:38:50 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: r9etb
He's saying that there are far more important issues than Obama's birth certificate, and he is quite correct.

It matters much to his constituency if he wants to get elected.

How Buck should have handled it. Something like this.

Buck to the person and/or Democrat operative: Obama should be forthcoming about his eligibility as it matter much to the American public.

Give a statement or two and move to other pressing issues.

Anybody who thinks that headlining the BC issue is anything other than a sure-fire method for joining the whackadoodle gallery really is a dumbass.

It wouldn't be much of a headline but to the numskulls who watch PMSNBC who are the 'whackadoodle gallery' of 'dumbasses' headed by these clowns.


Press monkeys

97 posted on 07/26/2010 3:39:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Responsibility2nd
Really? Was he correct to call TEA Partiers ‘dumbasses’?

How can you ask if he was correct to call someone something that he didn't? He said that about those who were hung up over the birth certificate issue. He did not say that about the tea partiers.

Or was he correct when he backed off that remark.

He didn't back off of it because he never made it. And in the statement he did make, he only backed off of the language used.

98 posted on 07/26/2010 3:41:48 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

This is what Rinos do to the lowlies who vote for their nasty asses. Glad he exposed his Rinoness before conservatives put him in power. The feeling is mutual, Rino losers.


99 posted on 07/26/2010 3:44:58 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Republican Wildcat
Really? Was he correct to call TEA Partiers ‘dumbasses’?

How can you ask if he was correct to call someone something that he didn't? He said that about those who were hung up over the birth certificate issue. He did not say that about the tea partiers.

Or was he correct when he backed off that remark.

He didn't back off of it because he never made it. And in the statement he did make, he only backed off of the language used.

 
 
 
 
Did you even bother to read the article?
 
 

According to the Denver Post, Buck was caught on tape saying in June, "Will you tell those dumbasses at the Tea Party to stop asking questions about birth certificates while I'm on camera." He added, laughing: "God, what am I supposed to do?"
 
 


100 posted on 07/26/2010 3:45:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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