Skip to comments.BP Oil Spill: Clean-Up Crews Can't Find Crude in the Gulf
Posted on 07/26/2010 5:01:14 PM PDT by PilotDave
The numbers don't lie: two weeks ago, skimmers picked up about 25,000 barrels of oily water. Last Thursday, they gathered just 200 barrels.
Still, it doesn't mean that all the oil that gushed for weeks is gone. Thousands of small oil patches remain below the surface, but experts say an astonishing amount has disappeared, reabsorbed into the environment.
"[It's] mother nature doing her job," said Ed Overton, a professor of environmental studies at Louisiana State University.
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Dispersant's sprayed on it would be the answer. The idea is that the dispersant's basically just made the oil sink; out of sight, out of mind.
I do not that this is for sure the case; but that has been widely speculated.
” “[It’s] mother nature doing her job,” said Ed Overton, a professor of environmental studies “
No, no, NO!!!
“Mother Nature is the helpless victim of man’s (specifically anglo-saxon American man’s) depredations!!”
(And this guy claims to be a ‘perfesser uv unvironMENTAL steddys... Sheeesh!!)
/really laying it on thick sarc...
Have/had BP been deploying air observers to direct the skimming crews, or were they on their own to find the oil slicks?
Backs up what Rush was saying. Now if Obama had put the skimmers to work right away most of this drama would not have occurred.
Dozens of planes launch everyday to map the spill. One of my friends is doing it now.
The dispersents were applied below the surface at the site of the leak. That is why much of the oil is underwater and scattered around the entire gulf. I certainly don’t trust the O Tribe Media to be telling us the truth now either. Remember...their number ONE PRIORITY IS PROTECTING OBAMA AND THE PROGRESSIVES. They don’t care if our Gulf is poisoned or not right now....it’s all about Obama...all the time.
Is mapping the spill for real time use? Is there a direct communication to skimmers from forward air observers?
Carvile, Matalin, CNN and Obama have been paid off. Now it will be the ‘Saving of yhe Gulf’. HAHAH.
The way I understand it is they fly all afternoon, mostly in twin engine piston planes at about 12,000’. They photo map the gulf, land and process the data overnight and present it to the command center for the daily early morning brief where they come up with the daily skimmer/dispersant plan. Then they do it all over again the next day....
Dispersant's destroy surface tension and break the oil up into smaller droplets, allowing the sun, oxygen, and oil eating microcritters to break it down faster.
“[It’s] mother nature doing her job,” said Ed Overton, a recently escaped and mentally imbalanced patient from Louisiana State University.
What a bunch of psycho babble. Really means - “Don’t ask me, I don’t have a friggin clue”.
Yes, but think of all the jobs we’ve created by making BP hire these guys to look for oil that isn’t there?
I think the term is “windfall” :o)
Had the use of real time FAO's ever been suggested?
Where are the schools of dead fish? They even tested the shrimp and found them perfectly fine. Looks like God made a perfect system.
Pray for America
This is such a joke! Oil degrades in saltwater in about 22 days depending on the salization quotient. The crime here now that the well is not leaking is the insanity of plugging it,This is the largest well on the nort American contenent.Whynot produce it to benifit our country??What is the rationalefor detroying it now. We need the damned OIL!!
Be careful my friend, you are very close to following the environmental Pied Piper's tune dancing right over the edge. Not all the way, but CLOSE.
The dispersants "disperse" the oil into the water, increasing it's surface area by millions so the oleophilic bacteria can go after the oil (a process that has happened since BEFORE man walked on the pristine beaches!).
The whole story is at The Patriot's Flag - Dispersants and the Piper where I laid out the technology for anyone to be able to follow.
And I was RIGHT ... and I'm muttering "I told you so" under my breath. All the dispersants do is "nudge" Mother Nature into doing HER job better ... but SHE HAS ALWAYS DONE THE JOB ... oil leaks into the worlds oceans every day ... and the reason we still have beaches are the oleophilics.
We should all be grateful to our president for waving his hand and accomplishing this miraculous feat!
Hey no big deal but there is no apostrophe in “dispersants”.
Well that’s good if that’s the case. It seemed with the hot summer temps down there that this would be no Exxon Valdez.
There has been a lot of misinformation even here on FR about this issue.
logic has long departed
We can now refer to it as the Swine Crude disaster
The dispersants must have done their job.........
That dispersant in the oil causing it to sink has to be as big a scam as global warming! Show me one instant in the oil spewing videos where the dispersant is sinking on its own? Nowhere. Dispersant BS story to the max.
So, we’re not all gonna die?
Dispersants can act like a surfactant and break up large clumps of oil into smaller droplets. It would still float though.
This was posted on an earlier thread and was from TOD, today.
Interesting series of posts at ZeroHedge, dated today.
I am on scene on one of the largest oceanographic research vessels working in the GOM. I am not being paid by NOAA or BP. This is a factual statement: Beyond 20 NM from the wellhead we have not detected subsurface oil at any depth in concentrations above 20PPM, beyond 40NM we have not detected any oil above 2PPM that was associated with Deepwater Horizon. We have seen the usual seep concentrations around Vioska Knoll, Green Canyon, etc.
Just wanted to add that out of tens of thousands of samples, the positive hits are coming from extremely limited areas “Plumes” which are measured in tens and perhaps hundreds of meters, not in miles. I have access to all of the raw and preliminary data coming in from 8 of the vessels sampling for the SMU (Subsurface Monitoring Unit)
* Shut down oil production permanently
* Made sleazy deals to continue oil production elsewhere
* Made large numbers of people completely dependent on government aid
* Lined the pockets of their friends
* Get paid back with billions in campaign donations
* Destroyed all of BP's competition
“as big a scam as global warming!”
Don’t be so sure global warming is a scam. Where I live it was 88 degrees today.
Only 6 months ago it was in the teens and we had snow.
If the sentence was “The dispersant’s properties cause...” then it would have an apostrophe (possessive) I believe.
[clop clop clop]
King Arthur: Whoa there!
[clop clop clop]
Soldier #1: Halt! Who goes there?
Arthur: It is I, Arthur, son of Uther Pendragon, from the castle of Camelot. King of the Britons, defeater of the Saxons, Sovereign of all England!
Soldier #1: Pull the other one!
Arthur: I am, ...and this is my trusty servant Patsy. We have ridden the length and breadth of the land in search of knights who will join me in my court at Camelot. I must speak with your lord and master.
Soldier #1: What? Ridden on a horse?
Soldier #1: You’re using coconuts!
Soldier #1: You’ve got two empty halves of coconut and you’re bangin’ ‘em together.
Arthur: So? We have ridden since the snows of winter covered this land, through the kingdom of Mercia, through—
Soldier #1: Where’d you get the coconuts?
Arthur: We found them.
Soldier #1: Found them? In Mercia? The coconut’s tropical!
Arthur: What do you mean?
Soldier #1: Well, this is a temperate zone.
Arthur: The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?
Soldier #1: Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Arthur: Not at all. They could be carried.
Soldier #1: What? A swallow carrying a coconut?
Arthur: It could grip it by the husk!
Soldier #1: It’s not a question of where he grips it! It’s a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
Arthur: Well, it doesn’t matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?
Soldier #1: Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
Soldier #1: Am I right?
Arthur: I’m not interested!
Soldier #2: It could be carried by an African swallow!
Soldier #1: Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow. That’s my point.
Soldier #2: Oh, yeah, I agree with that.
Arthur: Will you ask your master if he wants to join my court at Camelot?!
Soldier #1: But then of course a— African swallows are non-migratory.
Soldier #2: Oh, yeah...
Soldier #1: So, they couldn’t bring a coconut back anyway...
[clop clop clop]
Soldier #2: Wait a minute! Supposing two swallows carried it together?
Soldier #1: No, they’d have to have it on a line.
Soldier #2: Well, simple! They’d just use a strand of creeper!
Soldier #1: What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?
Soldier #2: Well, why not?
The well is damaged and cannot be repaired. They will cement it shut and then drill other production wells into the same reservoir. Don’t worry, we will get that oil. Unless, of course, Obama continues on his destroy American tack. But what are the chances of THAT happening?
Mea Culpa. I just couldn’t resist it...
Oh no. You're already dead. You just don't know it yet.
BTW, your Democrat absentee ballot is in the mail.
By the time it settles on the bottom, tar balls are the result. They also occur down here naturally... but not to this extent. The marshes are where the damage is... they never talk about that or show the wildlife covered in this tar substance.
You sound almost, dare I say, liberal with your castigation of a Reaganest outlook to the crisis. Where’s the sense of balance? The resistance to the facts on the ground. It’s almost liberal in it’s misplaced hysteria.
This just in, the spill did happen at the perfect time in the temperature loop and yes it did burn off and no it doesn’t sink, dispersed or not. Dispersant simply dispersed the oil and it was evaporated out that much quicker. The oil that came out of that particular find is of the highest quality, light sweet crude, full of methane. It would burn magnificently under a cruel Gulf sun. If what you are seeing wash up is a tar ball, guess what, the worst has passed. Tar is the inert leftovers of a volatile brew of crude. It’s the burnt charcoal briquet in the grill.
You really think a camera a mile underwater, in pitch black conditions, with artificial lighting, narrowly focused on a single point where oil is being forced upward would show such a thing?
That’s what that “dispersant” is supposed to do- make the oil clump up and float a little below the surface for a more aesthetic oil disaster.
Well....then....there is no reason for any offshore drilling moratorium. No big deal, no problem. That’s simple enough. Then why is Obama still trying to stop the drilling?
The oceans have been eating oil since there’s been oil and oceans.
You have really warm water and a hot sun this time of year
As if the Feds have any interest in making lemonade out of lemons. You are absolutely right. This well should be exploited to the max. A virtual mother lode.
Yeah, it's because of "global warming." They'll fix that once they've finished shaking down...I mean, once they've saved us from the oil spill that evil oil company BP did to us.
And with a wave of Obama's magic wand, no more off shore drilling! That's one crisis that didn't go to waste.
No, a dispersant's job is to break the oil into tiny micro-droplets that float to the surface.
It's really a surfactant, but surfactants cause dispersion because the ends of the surfactant molecules sticking out of the oil droplet repel the surfactant molecules in other oil droplets.
I caught triple-heck one evening here when I said that Corexit was nothing more than a glorified detergent. Folks told me that it was a dangerous poison and that Corexit was going to evaporate, fall out as rain, and contaminate the countryside.
I didn't have the heart to tell them about my education and job experience. I can't even begin to remember how many times I've designed and implemented bio-remediation projects for soil and groundwater contaminated with petroleum products. There are three things you need: Plenty of aeration, a bit of nutrients, and a good surfactant. Most engineers use Dawn detergent, which is simply a good, non-toxic surfactant.
Dont you that Daddy plugged the hole and its not going to be that bad for the November elections.
Because these are not the Jedi that you are looking for. Its the EEvil Repulicans that are to blame.
Lets keep this front and center. Expose and throw them out.
But I agree we do need the oil, since nothing has been done to replace it since the Carter years, and our dependency on foreign oil has just grown over the years.
Kinghorse, get off your high horse. Resistance to facts on the ground? - Facts from who? Misplaced hysteria? - Nah, that's liberals calling Tea Partiers racist.
Look, the article gave no real reason or explanation as to where the bulk of the oil is, or where it went, only guesses. That amount of crude doesn't disappear overnight.