Posted on 07/28/2010 12:06:46 PM PDT by lbryce
Edited on 07/28/2010 12:08:17 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Well, just as soon as we write that the controversial immigration law in Arizona is about to go in effect, the whole regime gets upended.
That’s right. A federal judge in Phoenix put on hold the most controversial provisions of the state immigration law slated to take effect Thursday. Click here for the Associated Press story.
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Weird, if you are a legal green card holder, the feds require you to have your green card on you at all times, and produce it when stopped.
The rule of law took a big hit today ... Just what Obama wants, shred the rule of law so he can instead have the rule of Obama.
Screwed again.
Simple Question.
Doesn’t this mean the federal government also violates citizens’ rights by checking their immigration status, or requiring anything of immigrants?
So then nothing can be done? Insanity.
So al these pissant employers that hire illegals get to keep supporting the invasion?
Don’t try to make sense of it. It’s just blatant partisanship.
I like the quote in the Washington Post story:
“Our message for tomorrow is noncompliance,” said Liz Hourican, an organizer with the group Code Pink, which is involved in the protests. “Don’t buy, don’t comply and peaceful resistance. We’re telling people don’t bring your papers, don’t bring your IDs.”
Not very smart advice particularly if you are hispanic. No papers, no i.d. -> conclusion is that you are illegal and you will get deported on the next bus to the border. Apparently she is too young to have seen the Cheech and Chong movie Born in East LA (with the song, now hit it boys...)
I am not being sarcastic, but what happens if an illegal is pulled over and has no license, no insurance and no proof of anything? They just let them go? How come I have to show ID? Maybe I will refuse next time I am asked?
Why does AZ listen to this Unconstitutional decision? NJ did not change their gun laws when McDonald vs Chicago said the 2A applies to the states... why are we CHUMPS?
This is a great reason to get rid of progressive RINO Senator Lindsey Graham who voted to pass Elena Kagan when lawsuits are being filed all over the country to over-rule immigration laws.
This is how RINOs work. They put in judges to do their dirty work. Everyone knows Graham is for amnesty and against enforcement but just cant risk talking about it. So passing this judge kills a great issue. The least Graham could have done was let this be a national constitutional debate by holding it up till the ruling.
I am so mad I cant see straight. FURIOUS!!
So state and local police can no longer aid in kidnapping cases? This too is a Federal law.
NONE of the law was controversial.
Do not get discouraged. This fight is far from over.
Why don’t the police in Arizona jail EVERYBODY who is caught driving without a drivers license and/or insurance? The net effect would be similar to the misdemeanor offense under the Arizona law in question.
So if a presumed muslim terrorist sneaks across the border, we cannot ask to see his papers? And the IRS can harrass US citizens to show proof of health insurance papers? This will further boost election turnout in 97 days.........
Just close down Customs and Immigration at all airports and borders. Let everyone in Obama.
How can one judge make such a critical decision. Revene the Supreme Court ASAP!
Although disappointing it will possibly eventually have the courts try to force the feds to enforce the border. The state will win in the end but it will take a while.
The new law would have REQUIRED officers to check immigration status under certain conditions. But what PREVENTS officers from doing so? Did the part of the new law stand that makes it an Arizona crime to be in the US illegally?
One reason given by the judge is that it “burdens lawfully-present aliens because their liberty will be restricted while their status is checked.”
I get stopped for a traffic matter. In the course of it, as I understand it, the police will check me and my vehicle for warrants, etc. How does this not burden me because my liberty is being restricted while my status is being checked.
Perhaps not. This judge has opened a can of worms that not even ohbummer will be able to stop.
From the previous post: “Weird, if you are a legal green card holder, the feds require you to have your green card on you at all times, and produce it when stopped.”
How the hell are they going to mandate that NOW!!!!!
Voters all over the country are paying close attention to the way Obama is keeping this crisis boiling to try to force comprehensive immigration on us.
Americans along the border are being killed while the government stands by and does nothing.
On election day will witness a major sea change in the United States of America, in one direction or the other.
Having become a US Citizen LEGALLY, I had to carry my Green card with me at all times, for failing to produce it on demand was and still is a Federal offense.
Oh this is going to be over turned so quick. Hopefully the good Gov of AZ just ignores it and goes on as planned
What are the plans to successfully end: all political correctness, all leftist legislation, and all activist judicialism, at all levels? There needs to be a foolproof plan that really does end all of this, or else, what are non-leftists campaigning for? Actually end all of this leftist crap, forever!
We all saw this coming a mile away.
We cannot trust our courts any longer.
It is only a matter of time before we have to resort to something other than the law.
“So al these pissant employers that hire illegals get to keep supporting the invasion?”
This is BOGUS!
Pissant is hiring illegal immigrants? No wonder he hates Sarah Palin so much!
LMAO
what part? The post or “employers that hire illegals get to keep supporting the invasion”
Sounds like a violation of the equal protection
clause of the 14th amendment. If law enforcement
can’t require paperwork from illegals, they can’t
require it of citizens either.
I was just thinking this solution. IF driving without a license in AR. is a crime(misdemeanor) Arrest them and take them to the jail and THEN do the CHECK. Problem solved.
In your dreams! We have become a nation of judge’s “opinions” rather than a nation of laws.
I’m getting to the end of my rope.
What aboout sobriety checkpoints?
This means that the AZ police should haul every law breaker into jail..no tickets for no license and no insurance..just haul them in and then they can determine their status. I imagine that Sheriff Joe will have his take on this as well.
...and now the Mexification of the Southwestern United States will continue unabated.
I suggest you check out comment #28. Then my post #26 again. A lame joke but,,,,,,,,
When the sobriety checkpoints were challenged as violating fourth amendment rights, the courts acknowledged they in fact did so. The courts then determined that the fourth amendment violation, which would otherwise be unconstitutional, should stand anyway because the checkpoints address a "compelling state interest". They found keeping drivers who'd been drinking off the streets was a "compelling state interest".
Even if the Arizona law were otherwise unconstitutional, and in my opinion it is not, are not addressing illegal immigration, protecting the borders and national security "compelling state interests".
This of course means there can be no more DUI check points, not even on New Years. Good news for the Kennedys.
Very good point. Of course, how many courts have ruled that DUI check points are illegal?
It would be interesting to see what the rules are in that district for DUI check points.
They do not want us to organize a resistance. They do not want the state to combat drug and human traffic I guess. It’s completely unconstitutional.
No we can't and thats how we almost got Al Gore in 2000 and how we got Al Franken in '08. I look for the same kind of shenanigans from all 50 states come November. Rogue judges and partisan Secretaries of States.
I think you're right, sickoflibs.
The most telling thing about all this is the Administration’s admission that immigration has become such a problem that we do not have the resources to handle the large number of illegals that would require deportation.
Instead of pressing for an injunction, it seems that the administration would be considering an emergency deployment of troops to secure our porous border.
This whole issue is simply the result of our nation’s failure to secure our border for the past 20 years!
I find this entire matter quite infuriating. Perhaps we could redirect the health care money to administering the deportation of illegals and in so doing, this alone may alleviate the strain on our health care system.
My response to Susie:
Regarding your decision on AZ SB1070, FU! I REFUSE to accept your decision. The Dred Scott decision was the worst ever by ANY court in this country, that is, until your decision today. That decision led to the war that split this country asunder. Will your decision do the same?
Today, you have stood the Constitution on its head. You have made all state governments subjects of the federal government. You have created a dictatorship through usurpation. You have given the federal government unlimited control over every American, i.e., slavery!
Not bad for a day’s work. Now try enforcing your decision. I was born a free man and I will die as one.
or perhaps they could spend some of the $750,000,000* per week paid to the unemployed to go and work protecting the border, win win less unemployment + a secure border
* http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100722/ap_on_bi_ge/us_unemployment_benefits
The move ended an interruption that cut off payments averaging about $300 a week to 2 1/2 million people who have been unable to find work
This is a great reason to get rid of progressive RINO Senator Lindsey Graham who voted to pass Elena Kagan when lawsuits are being filed all over the country to over-rule immigration laws.
This is how RINOs work. They put in judges to do their dirty work. Everyone knows Graham is for amnesty and against enforcement but just cant risk talking about it. So passing this judge kills a great issue. The least Graham could have done was let this be a national constitutional debate by holding it up till the ruling
How about getting rid of John McCain first?
Arizona can take giant steps in the fight against Illegal Alien Amnesty by voting for JD Hayworth in a few weeks
If you are not 100% behind JD Hayworth in the primary.....YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF ILLEGAL ALIEN AMNESTY. Plain and simple. A vote for McCain is a vote for Amnesty
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