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Unaffordable at Any Speed: President Obama's electric car subsidies are snobby and foolish.
Slate ^ | July 30, 2010 | Charles Lane

Posted on 08/01/2010 6:43:04 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: riri; All

Bingo..


61 posted on 08/01/2010 8:11:41 AM PDT by KevinDavis (The meek shall inherit the Earth... the rest of us will take the stars!)
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To: C19fan
40 miles on a battery charge...unless you use air-conditioning or the heater. Then perhaps 30 miles.

It's an expensive toy.

62 posted on 08/01/2010 8:13:24 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: C19fan

Didn’t Government Motors try marketing an all electric car back in the 90’s? I remember Rush referring to it as the Algore.


63 posted on 08/01/2010 8:14:41 AM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: C19fan

Here is Government Motors first mass produced electric car, the EV-1.
64 posted on 08/01/2010 8:19:31 AM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: C19fan
Volt + BS powered battery charger + DVD of Obama speeches = Perpetual motion.
65 posted on 08/01/2010 8:24:05 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Decriminalize crime! Empty the prisons! Anything less is racist genocide!)
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To: Venturer
I am no Engineer, in fact I am not half smart, but whay could you just put a small Honda generator in the trunk to recharge the battery on this thing?

It already has a small gas engine for doing just that, and that is the only thing that would save a commuter when the batteries crap out well before the 40 miles. You have to realize that this car can't go 40 miles in one direction, not if you want to return home on the original charge. It will only go 20 miles and then you have to turn around and go home.

The little gas engine is designed to get you that extra mile or two when the batteries actually run out of charge at 32 or maybe even 28 or 29 miles instead of 40, due to cold weather, using the heater, air conditioner or driving faster than 35 MPH.

66 posted on 08/01/2010 8:39:31 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Bean Counter

Full charge is 8 hours on 220 and 16 hours on 110. I found that info at the Chevy Volt forum.


67 posted on 08/01/2010 8:43:41 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: yawningotter
What are the performance numbers for this thing? Will it get up to highway speeds before someone in a fully loaded 18 wheeler runs it down? Will that backup generator be able to produce enough power for safe operation in high speed heavy traffic?

Electric motors have tremendous starting torque. Off the line, the Volt should feel like a rocket and then peter off. Here's the estimated performance according to GM:

The front-wheel-drive 2011 Volt is powered by an electric motor rated at 149 hp (111 kilowatts) and 273 pound-feet of torque. GM projects a 0-60-mph sprint of 8.5 to 9 seconds with full battery power.

Hardly impressive, but that's on par with a base model Camry or a pick up truck.

68 posted on 08/01/2010 8:54:45 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: Venturer

I don’t think they want anyone to go more than 20 miles away from their “assigned” place. They don’t want a mobile society. It is easier to control the masses. Those who can’t afford the new gov car will be stuck on public transit


69 posted on 08/01/2010 9:03:46 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: RayChuang88

When my Honda dies I will be seriously taking a look at the Ford Fiesta. I heard there is a waitign list which is unheard of for a domestic compact.


70 posted on 08/01/2010 9:07:18 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: calex59

“The little gas engine is designed to get you that extra mile or two when the batteries actually run out of charge at 32 or maybe even 28 or 29 miles instead of 40, due to cold weather, using the heater, air conditioner or driving faster than 35 MPH.”

The reality of the product is even shit-e-er than we first thought.


71 posted on 08/01/2010 9:08:47 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: C19fan

“Where does the federal government get off spending the average person’s tax dollars to help better-off-than-average Americans buy expensive new cars?”

And where are these electric cars going to get their electricity? The envirowackos including BamBam don’t want coal-fired or nuclear power plants. They’re not living in the real world.


72 posted on 08/01/2010 9:11:07 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: C19fan
It's Electric!

Chevy Volt; Obama; politics; satire

73 posted on 08/01/2010 9:11:35 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: C19fan

If he gave me a $40,000 tax credit to buy one, I would. I’d then store it with only the occasional trip to keep the seals tight. It would out-edsel an edsel. It would be a great investment in, say, 20 years. Maybe I would have one of only two left.

That is the only value the car has. Well, maybe I could use it as a golf cart.


74 posted on 08/01/2010 9:13:23 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Flag_This

do not plug that monstrosity into my business.

electricity moochers will be fired immediatly.


75 posted on 08/01/2010 9:13:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RayChuang88

Ford has a lot of experience in selling small cars in Europe where they compete successfully against the Japanese brands. I do not know why it took them so long to figure out to start bringing those cool looking models to the US. Tons of people like me who drive compacts but are so uninspired by the Japanese designs. When I go overseas and see the compacts that are not available here I get pissed.


76 posted on 08/01/2010 9:15:06 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Kirkwood

That is just nuts! Especially considering that so many States are busy constructing “charging stations” along the interstates. Washington got “stimulus” money to build them along I-5, but details about how it will actually work have been non-existent.

Madness!


77 posted on 08/01/2010 9:15:21 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Now what kind of a geroo are you anyway?)
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To: Flag_This

That rocks!


78 posted on 08/01/2010 9:15:47 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Don’t give them any ideas, hee hee. If ObamaCare is constitutional, then I guess Congress can pass a law saying if you buy a car the only legal one is the Volt.


79 posted on 08/01/2010 9:19:23 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Bean Counter

(s) if there is free electricity on the road, why not for my house?(/s)


80 posted on 08/01/2010 9:24:06 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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