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Six teenagers thought to have drowned in Louisiana river
NY Post ^ | 8-2-10

Posted on 08/02/2010 8:20:12 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

The bodies of four teenagers were pulled from a Louisiana river Monday while authorities continued to search for two more feared drowned, the Shreveport Times reported.

A group of teenagers -- aged between 14 and 18 -- had been in the Red River in Shreveport for about 10 minutes, according to family members who witnessed the drownings.

It was understood the youths, who did not know how to swim, were wading in the river when the bottom of the river fell away underneath them in a sudden drop.

Shreveport TV station KSLA-TV reported that Cindy Chadwick, Public Information Office for Caddo Parish Sheriff's Office, said six teenagers in total are believed to have drowned.

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God be with their families and their souls.
1 posted on 08/02/2010 8:20:14 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

How sad....God comfort the families


2 posted on 08/02/2010 8:22:27 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: My Favorite Headache

What a needless tragedy this is. These kids should have known how to swim, and if they did not, they should never have gotten into the river. I suspect that these kids were black? The only people that I ever met in the Navy that did not know how to swim were blacks.


3 posted on 08/02/2010 8:26:44 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: DLfromthedesert

A group of Southern teens that don’t know how to swim?

And who would let non swimmers in a river, rivers are incredibly dangerous and challenging, even for strong swimmers.


4 posted on 08/02/2010 8:27:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12

I was thinking that, but I still feel bad for them.


5 posted on 08/02/2010 8:28:43 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: My Favorite Headache

From:
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/20100802/NEWS01/100802028/UPDATED-4-teens-drown-in-Red-River-search-continues
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UPDATED: 4 teens drown in Red River, search continues
From Staff Reports • August 2, 2010
The death toll has risen to four and emergency crews are searching for two more teenagers believed to have drowned in the Red River this evening.

The six kids, between the ages of 14 and 18 from three families, had been in the water for about 10 minutes near the sandbar at the Charles and Marie Hamel Memorial Park, according to family members, who witnessed the drownings.

Family members told authorities they were at the park off Clyde Fant Parkway in Shreveport, for a gathering. The children, who didn’t know how to swim, were wading in shallow water when the bottom of the river fell from under them.

They had one life jacket.

A bystander jumped in and saved a 15-year-old boy, who has been treated on the scene.

Caddo and Bossier parish emergency crews along with Shreveport and Bossier City police are searching for the teens.

Emergency crews were called to the area off Clyde Fant Parkway at about 6:30 p.m. today.

About 18 emergency units have responded to the scene.


6 posted on 08/02/2010 8:29:44 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

The river has a real soft silty bottom, if it gave way I could see how the swirling current might drown a kid before he could ever get back up.

I would never wade in the Red River,


7 posted on 08/02/2010 8:30:24 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Nosterrex

The only people that I ever met in the Navy that did not know how to swim were blacks.

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What????? I don’t know how to swim and I’m not black. Geeze.


8 posted on 08/02/2010 8:31:16 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

prayers to the family, may god bless those and keep them who are lost


9 posted on 08/02/2010 8:34:18 PM PDT by Iron head mike (The government will soon make criminals of us all.)
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To: MWestMom; Nosterrex

It is the same in the army. It is one of the hurdles that makes blacks so rare in special operations units.


10 posted on 08/02/2010 8:34:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: My Favorite Headache

When young I almost died wading in a Louisiana river myself. There are undercurrents you can’t see or feel until you take a step and drop down several feet at least. I knew how to swim but it kept pulling me under. Thank God my dad, bless his soul, saw what was happening and he jumped in and saved me. Never stepped foot in any river since.


11 posted on 08/02/2010 8:35:05 PM PDT by LibSnubber
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To: ansel12

I did not know that. Not too old to learn something new everyday.


12 posted on 08/02/2010 8:36:13 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: MWestMom

That’s what I was going to say.


13 posted on 08/02/2010 8:37:27 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Repeal The 17th

I know exactly where this is, I’ve driven by it dozens of times. It’s a riverbank park right near downtown shreveport, popular with joggers, bikers, etc. The temp has been over 100 degrees for several days. The river is low and must have looked deceptively placid and inviting.


14 posted on 08/02/2010 8:39:09 PM PDT by balch3
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To: My Favorite Headache
Two little rosebuds were taken from their home to make their bloom in heaven and decorate the throne. They were young and cherry, though neither one could swim, they waded in deep water for God had called to them.

15 posted on 08/02/2010 8:40:03 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: MWestMom
It has something to do with some blacks' BMI and center of gravity. I had a black kid in one of my swim classes (in good shape) who simply couldn't float. I tried all the tricks, he couldn't.

I told him, I will teach you to swim, but you should try something a little less dangerous.

16 posted on 08/02/2010 8:41:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: My Favorite Headache

How tragic. Learning how to swim is so easy and takes such little effort. Prays for the families.


17 posted on 08/02/2010 8:42:23 PM PDT by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012....)
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To: MWestMom
"What????? I don’t know how to swim and I’m not black. Geeze."

You can geeze all you like, but it is a fact that most black kids, or adults for that matter, in the deep south and mid south can't swim. I can't vouch for other parts of the country.

18 posted on 08/02/2010 8:43:31 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

How do you get to be that age, in this country, and not know how to swim?


19 posted on 08/02/2010 8:43:40 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: 1rudeboy
I can't float either. I float like a rock. Always thought it was the fact that I was a little large in the posterior. : )

If you put a life-jacket on me or a ski belt I'm good to go. Snorkeled in Cozumel in a life jacket. Just wasn't going to pass up the experience.

20 posted on 08/02/2010 8:44:38 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: balch3
The river is low and must have looked deceptively placid and inviting.

I lost an uncle to the Kern river, I saved my brother from a river, and I have had a couple of close calls on rivers and in bayous.

Ronald Reagan was the most successful river lifeguard in his region, I think that he was credited with almost 100 saves, including one when he returned to the river many years after leaving that work.

21 posted on 08/02/2010 8:45:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: MWestMom

The only people that I ever met in the Navy that did not know how to swim were blacks.

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What????? I don’t know how to swim and I’m not black. Geeze.

that doesn’t make his statement incorrect....I am white and I cannot swim, my three kids are qualified lifeguards. I do know however, that by and large, black people can’t swim. I don’t know why, I just know that most black people I know can’t swim.


22 posted on 08/02/2010 8:45:51 PM PDT by terycarl (sstrations)
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To: 1rudeboy

One of my best friends as a child was black and could swim just fine. He was a great diver, also. I don’t think it has anything to do with physiology. I think many inner-city blacks just never get the opportunity to learn how to swim. Their parents never take them. Not many pools in the hood, I guess. By the way, my friend and I both grew up in the inner city. I learned how to swim at an apartment complex pool practically on my own. I am not sure where he learned...


23 posted on 08/02/2010 8:47:08 PM PDT by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: ansel12
It is the same in the army. It is one of the hurdles that makes blacks so rare in special operations units.

For years the Navy lagged the other services in the percentages of black members. That had a lot to do with the fact that many black people just don't care for swimming or being in the water in general. Not stereotyping. I've had blacks guys tell me that and express NO interest in sailing the high seas in the Navy. But I think it is less that way now than twenty or thirty years ago.

24 posted on 08/02/2010 8:47:28 PM PDT by Will88
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To: MWestMom

He’s not being racist, just stating facts. I grew up in the South and if you got 6 white kids together, maybe one could not swim.

If you got 6 black kids together, you might have one who could swim. And by swim, I mean really swim, not just splash and walk around in the water.


25 posted on 08/02/2010 8:47:45 PM PDT by packrat35 (Planned Parenthood... killing more blacks than the Ku Klux Klan could have ever dreamed of.)
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To: LibSnubber

There is a lake here in Northern CA that has pot holes all around the edge of it just inside the water line. Every year some kid, and sometimes several, will step into a hole while wading and drown .


26 posted on 08/02/2010 8:49:23 PM PDT by calex59
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

You can geeze all you like, but it is a fact that most black kids, or adults for that matter, in the deep south and mid south can’t swim. I can’t vouch for other parts of the country.
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Like I said in an earlier post, I didn’t know that. Just leary of generalizations and didn’t know if this was a generalization or not.

I know that most of my daughter’s girlfriends who are black don’t go into the water; but usually they gave their hair as the reason. Maybe they don’t know how to swim.


27 posted on 08/02/2010 8:52:03 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: lmr

Inner city kids have no place to learn how to swim; very few have parents who know how to swim. It’s a skill most of us teach our kids at an early age.

I taught a dozen Fresh Air Fund kids how to swim. We used to host them here in PA. in the summertime. First place we always took them was to swimming lessons at the local pool.

I’m glad I did that. I hope they all passed their swimming skills down to their own kids later on in life.


28 posted on 08/02/2010 8:55:48 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama on The View: "When those folks came over on 9-11". Folks??? WTH?)
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To: Nosterrex

I was swimming by age 4. I honestly don’t know...chalked it up to growing up in south Florida I guess.


29 posted on 08/02/2010 8:56:39 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Obama is Dangerclown The Manchild)
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To: valkyry1

I know a guy who drowned who was a Marine in Iraq got caught in a whirlpool. With all of his gear he stood no chance in it.


30 posted on 08/02/2010 8:57:48 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Obama is Dangerclown The Manchild)
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To: MWestMom

He wasn’t making a racist comment there..blacks or notoriously bad swimmers and known to not be taught how to swim at all.


31 posted on 08/02/2010 8:58:40 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Obama is Dangerclown The Manchild)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
I'm in Decatur GA, a suburb of Atlanta, six miles from the State Capitol.

Six lifeguards work at the county pool where I swim every day. Five of them are black, and almost every kid on the 50-person youth swim team is black. At another county pool 3 miles away, youth swim camps arrive on the hour from 1:00 'til 4:00 PM...95% of the kids are black and so are 75% of the lifeguards.

Anyone who thinks black people can't swim is nuts and needs to come see some of these teenagers butterfly.

One of my gf's coworkers, who is a black female, explained that many black people don't like to go swimming because it tweaks their hair.

32 posted on 08/02/2010 9:00:14 PM PDT by Chunga (I Have Supported J.D. Since The Day He Announced)
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To: ansel12

Never knew that about Reagan. I named my daughter after him...just adds to his brilliance.


33 posted on 08/02/2010 9:01:09 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Obama is Dangerclown The Manchild)
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To: Chunga

Being a very large city with lots of services and lots of blacks, I can see that blacks would learn to swim there more so that the other, more rural, areas.


34 posted on 08/02/2010 9:07:16 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: MWestMom

When I was 19 I couldn’t swim. During basic training I and six others, all black, failed the swim test.


35 posted on 08/02/2010 9:08:25 PM PDT by Tail Gunner John
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To: Chunga; JustaDumbBlonde
Anyone who thinks black people can't swim is nuts and needs to come see some of these teenagers butterfly.

No one said that blacks CAN'T swim but that many of them simply do not know how to swim and this is a fact. The reason? Most blacks are inner city kids and never have the chance to learn.

36 posted on 08/02/2010 9:11:18 PM PDT by calex59
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"Anyone who thinks black people can't swim is nuts and needs to come see some of these teenagers butterfly."

I did not mean that they can't in the sense that they are not capable of learning. I wrote can't in terms of them drowning because when they get in the water they don't know how to swim.

It is very common around these parts. We lose black kids and some adults every years because the inability to swim doesn't keep them away from the water. They slip on rocks and fall out of boats regularly in my neck of the woods.

37 posted on 08/02/2010 9:11:42 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: calex59

I guess that’s like whites CAN’T break dance.


38 posted on 08/02/2010 9:12:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: calex59
Well, we were several seconds apart, but agree on the terminology. In the parishes around me, it is not because they come from the inner city ... just the opposite. They are in the country where there are not programs that teach them to swim. Their parents can't swim either, so they don't teach them.
39 posted on 08/02/2010 9:15:34 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Prayers Up,,,

That place ain’t too far from me,,,

They call it the “sand bar”,,,

Full of kids all the time when it’s hot,,,

It goes from sand bar to about 30’ very quickly,,,

Bossier Parish SO has two boats there to keep folks close

to the bank so they won’t get run over by the boats,,,

A few weeks ago one of the BPSO guys killed a 12’

alligator at the boat launch on the Bossier side,,,

They may have opened lock # 5 to draw down the high water,,,

Lock closed no current,,,

Lock open bad current,,,

I was told at a young age to keep my ass OUT of that river.


40 posted on 08/02/2010 9:17:34 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: My Favorite Headache

It looks like two families.

“Assistant Fire Chief Fred Sanders says they were playing in the water Monday evening and stepped over a sudden drop-off to 20 feet deep.
Sanders says they were with adults, but none of the group could swim.
He says he believes they were from two families three brothers in one family, and two brothers and a sister in the other.”


41 posted on 08/02/2010 9:17:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: lmr

When I took swimming in college two of the basketball players were in my class. The professor (a PhD) said that black males drown the most because they are usually more muscular than others. Fat floats while muscles sink. Those two athletes did okay learning how to swim but in the deep water they had quite a bit of difficulty.


42 posted on 08/02/2010 9:20:46 PM PDT by CajunConservative (0bama, your ass is the first one you need to kick.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

A 12 footer that far north huh. Of course they might be swimming upstream in the summer.


43 posted on 08/02/2010 9:22:13 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: calex59
No one said that blacks CAN'T swim but that many of them simply do not know how to swim and this is a fact.

Oh yes, someone did say blacks can't swim...the word was used without immediate clarification...and there has even been an assertion on this thread that it might have something to do with blacks' BMI and center of gravity.

JADB has said that she didn't mean to use the word "can't" as "being incapable," that she rather meant that they didn't possess the skills required to swim due to not having been taught.

But it was said, and someone postulated on the physicality of black people. Hence my response.

44 posted on 08/02/2010 9:22:52 PM PDT by Chunga (I Have Supported J.D. Since The Day He Announced)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

They found the other two,,,(the shreveport times)...


45 posted on 08/02/2010 9:24:01 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Chunga
"Oh yes, someone did say blacks can't swim...the word was used without immediate clarification..."

I find it pretty funny (funny clarified as odd, not haha) that you would jump to the conclusion that I meant blacks were incapable of swimming, especially when I specified a certain part of the country.

46 posted on 08/02/2010 9:32:05 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Chunga

Maybe people were reading science publications.

“Bejan and Jones cite past studies of the human body which found that on average, the center of gravity is about three percent higher in blacks than whites. Using this difference in body types, the researchers calculated that black sprinters are 1.5 percent faster than whites, while whites have the same advantage over blacks in the water. The difference might seem small, Bejan said, but not when considering that world records in sprinting and swimming are typically broken by fractions of seconds.”
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100712103349.htm


47 posted on 08/02/2010 9:37:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Chunga
Actually the word can't can be used in two ways. One would be to say that many blacks can't swim meaning they simply don't know how, hence the "can't" swim, just as I can't fly a plane but am physically and mentally capable of learning how.

The other way would be to use it in the sense that blacks aren't capable of learning to swim which I did not see implied or specifically mentioned. I could have missed a comment or two but personally I didn't see where anyone implied or stated that blacks were not capable of learning to swim.

48 posted on 08/02/2010 9:39:48 PM PDT by calex59
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
A few weeks ago one of the BPSO guys killed a 12’ alligator at the boat launch on the Bossier side,,,

Was fishing in the bass boat about 15 years ago and lost the grip on my rod and real and it went overboard. Flipped the wife my wallet and dove in without thinking. Got the rod and real and climbed back into the boat.
Wife was laughing at my dumba$$, looked around to see if any other fisherman saw my little screw-up, that's when I saw a couple of 10 footers about 75 feet away on the opposite bank.
A very good learning experience.

49 posted on 08/02/2010 9:39:56 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: ansel12

Interesting, my grandmother who was extremely high waisted always said she swam just like a rock. The rest of the family is all “normal” and all swim like fishes. Don’t know if that had anything to do with anything but an interesting piece of info.


50 posted on 08/02/2010 9:43:54 PM PDT by momto6
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