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Is Android unstoppable?
Unwired ^ | 03 Aug 10 | Vlad Bobleanta

Posted on 08/03/2010 10:58:40 AM PDT by SmokingJoe

What the numbers say

Android’s market share grew by an amazing 886% in the second quarter of 2010 compared to the second quarter of 2009. And as exciting as that sounds, it was pretty much to be expected. Back in Q2 2009 Android had 2.8% of the smartphone market. You can only go up from such a measly number, basically.

This time last year, Android was on just over a million of the handsets sold. And almost all of those sales were made up by the HTC Dream/G1. Android 1.5 was released during that second quarter of 2009, but by the end of June only two devices were running the new OS version, the Samsung i7500 Galaxy and the HTC Magic. Arguably, neither Android 1.0 nor Android 1.5 were anything close to final, stable versions of the OS despite their numbering. It was only with 1.6 that came out in September last year, when the OS started to look good enough for mass adoption, and that’s when many new devices started to show up, and Android’s growth rate started surging.

Today, Android is only 0.9% away from RIM’s BlackBerry OS, and if the current trends continue, will overtake it in Q3. Which is not a small achievement by any standard. RIM’s OS was holding that second position since Windows Mobile started to go down a long, long time ago (in mobile device years, anyway).

We’ve clearly not seen the peak of the Android platform yet. How much it can still grow from this point on is anybody’s guess, but it has absolutely grown up this year. My guess is that it won’t peak in 2010.

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An interesting fact is that aside from Android, every other smartphone OS has lost market share in Q2 2010 compared to Q2 2009. Every. Single. One.
1 posted on 08/03/2010 10:58:42 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

I know very little about these, but am contemplating buying a smartphone. I am currently an ATT customer (have work Blackberry)

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Here or FReepMail. Thanks!


2 posted on 08/03/2010 11:03:05 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: SmokingJoe

As long as RIM keeps sucking then yes they are unstoppable.

We are going from Blackberry to Droid.

Blackberry = Atari 2600


3 posted on 08/03/2010 11:06:31 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt

Please don’t insult the Atari 2600. ;-)


4 posted on 08/03/2010 11:09:22 AM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: TSgt

I still like the Rim OS. It does the job just fine. I have a G1, Smartphone and I used to have a blackberry. The blackberry worked fine.


5 posted on 08/03/2010 11:10:21 AM PDT by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure

It’s why I like the BB, it works. Very, very reliable and it handles encryption certificates.

Funny how that isn’t an issue yet. It will be as Google, Bing, and others start to really hammer away at your privacy.

Prediction - Social networking sites will start supporting public key encryption within the next five years. It would stop the pilfering of private, but ‘volunteered’ information cold.


6 posted on 08/03/2010 11:16:21 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: SmokingJoe
I accidentally dropped mine into a vat of liquid nitrogen. I then pulled it out too fast and it shattered into a thousand pieces.

But then as the pieces melted they started to coalesce ...

7 posted on 08/03/2010 11:23:01 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: SmokingJoe

Android has some great features and applications. Unfortunately if you use those features and apps, your battery won’t last a single day. The first smartphone manufacturer that makes a batter last long enough will eventually win. Right now they all suck.


8 posted on 08/03/2010 11:24:00 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: SmokingJoe

Android looks unstoppable. In 5 years, Android may run most phones, netbooks, Tablets, TVs, Refrigerators, etc.

But what I don’t understand is this. Since Android is free to manufacturers, how does Google capitalize on it? How does Android help Google?


9 posted on 08/03/2010 11:24:45 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: TSgt
As long as RIM keeps sucking then yes they are unstoppable.

Add Microsoft to that list. Steve Ballmer has no idea what he is doing as far as smartphones and lots of other markets are concerned.

10 posted on 08/03/2010 11:26:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

It’s really too bad that the Palm Pre died off. It was easily a year ahead of its time and the OS is still the best mobile. Lousy marketing and really iffy handheld + releasing right on the cusp of a depression all killed it quickly. Still like mine though, but next I get will likely be Android after version 3 is out.


11 posted on 08/03/2010 11:26:13 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: A_Former_Democrat

My first smartphone is the iPhone 3Gs I picked up at the ATT store for $99. It has everything I need for now and Im impressed, best hundred dollars Ive spent in a long time.
I set up a wirelss router at home and that took me off their 3G network, which saves on data recieved.
Let us know what and how you do . . . ‘aight?


12 posted on 08/03/2010 11:28:53 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: SmokingJoe

My Mom has a Droid from Verizon and I thought I’d see how it worked and functioned. The one thing I struggled with was the use of a virtual keyboard. I prefer a real keyboard, so that’s kind of why I’m leaning towards getting a Blackberry for my next phone.


13 posted on 08/03/2010 11:32:40 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (Please consider the logging and timber industries when printing this tagline)
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To: o2bfree

You make your money developing apps for it. Plus it is like heroin. You can afford give it away for free.....at first


14 posted on 08/03/2010 11:32:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Tolsti2
You may still have some hope on Palm after HP acquired Palm recently.
15 posted on 08/03/2010 11:38:44 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: GOP_Raider

“My Mom has a Droid from Verizon and I thought I’d see how it worked and functioned. The one thing I struggled with was the use of a virtual keyboard. I prefer a real keyboard, so that’s kind of why I’m leaning towards getting a Blackberry for my next phone.”

Wifie has a Droid, I have a Blackberry. I much prefer mine.


16 posted on 08/03/2010 11:40:14 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

bttt


17 posted on 08/03/2010 11:45:09 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: SmokingJoe

The second Android can sync with outlook canlendar and contacts, microsoft is gone.


18 posted on 08/03/2010 11:49:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GOP_Raider

If you struggled with the virtual keyboard, did you slide the phone open to reveal the physical/tactile keyboard? ;-p

I have a Verizon Motorola Droid and bought this model expressly because it has both a virtual and a physical keyboard.

OH, I LOVE my Droid.


19 posted on 08/03/2010 11:49:40 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: TommyDale

Heh, so i have a car charger and a home charger now. Can’t imagine what an extended battery would look like on DroidX.


20 posted on 08/03/2010 11:53:20 AM PDT by hope
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To: TommyDale

I’ve got a straight Droid - and it lasts two days of typical usage. If I turn on GPS - it’ll run for about 2-2.5 hours. That is the biggest draw apparently on my device.

So - yeah I would like to get 12 hours of GPS usage out of it, but then a charge cable for my car was only $10. Solves the problem.


21 posted on 08/03/2010 11:58:43 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: Blueflag
If you struggled with the virtual keyboard, did you slide the phone open to reveal the physical/tactile keyboard? ;-p

LOL, strangely enough, that particular Droid didn't have a physical keyboard.

22 posted on 08/03/2010 12:02:00 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Please consider the logging and timber industries when printing this tagline)
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To: GOP_Raider

Huh?? If it’s a REAL Droid from Motorola - it has a keyboard?

There is the Droid Eris which doesn’t...

To be honest, I got the Droid because of the keyboard and now don’t use it.


23 posted on 08/03/2010 12:03:43 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: GOP_Raider

I am switching from a BlackBerry to a Droid this month, so I checked them out. The newest, most expensive version does not have a real keyboard, but the less expensive version does have a keyboard, which is important to people that text with their fingernails. :)


24 posted on 08/03/2010 12:09:50 PM PDT by ivoteright (Sooner born, Sooner bred)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I will give you MHO on the matter and I am sure other zealots will follow with their versions and then you can make a goodly informed decision.

There are really only two smart phone choices of the many. Apple’s iPhone or everyone else’s Android by Google.

Apple, the first modern such phone, had to find a partner to believe in the risk, and take the loss. These phones are worth $700 but sold for a fraction, because the phone carrier want’s the contract. ATT has Apple under exclusive contract until the end of the year.

Google, which just invented their Droid OS is much nearer and a copy cat, who all the other phone companies jumped on to emulate Apple’s success.

Thus you can get Droid on about any kind of phone with many different screen sizes and lots of different options.

That is both good and bad. Good in that it has far more choices and is totally open for anyone to make any kind of app.

Bad, in that it is totally insecure and multiple thousands of bad apps, spy-ware and viruses are out there just like for PC.

Apple is closed. You only get approved apps, and they limit things like no Porn and no Voice over IP, and tethering. You can “break” or “Hack” the iphone and make it do those things, but risk your warranty.

But, being a closed system, like Mac, there is no viruses, no spy-ware, no bad apps to worry about.

Droid also, having just the OS and any one can make a phone for it, means not all apps work the same. Some may be only for phones with a certain screen or features or buttons.

Apple’s iPhone and the iOS is made by Apple for Apple and thus all the millions of apps all work the same for everyone all the time.

Apple also has tens of thousands more apps than Droid.

Droid phones are typically made by the lowest cost vendor and are plastic. Screens have been known to break off, or the touch screens just stop working.

iPhone is made of metal and high tempered glass. There are videos of iphones being run over by 18 wheel semi trucks and still working when picked up.

All cell phones have issues when you hold them certain ways which can increase the risk of dropped calls. Apple seems to be worse at dropping calls. It may or may not be due to design issues or the ATT network. The debate continues.

The iPhone screen is nearly DOUBLE the pixels of the best Droid phones and as much as 4 times better than the cheap droid phones.

Droid does not yet sync with Outlook or your exchange server. You have to have a gmail and google calendar account to sync.

iPhone fully supports exchange, direct push mail and other features syncing with your network.

I am an iPhone user and a Mac enthusiast.

I hope this was helpful!


25 posted on 08/03/2010 12:45:05 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: longtermmemmory
The second Android can sync with outlook canlendar and contacts, microsoft is gone.

It can. We have one that syncs with our exchange server. However, it appears to struggle if you have too much email.

Our droid was working fine when we had it set to sync and keep 2 weeks worth of email. When we set it to one month, the email headers started mismatching with the email body. In other words, an email would say it was from one person, but when you opened it, it would be from another. This has happened on two different units (exchanged the first one via warranty). The person we issued it to has thousands of emails. The moment we switched the phone over to retain one month of emails, the problem reoccurred.
26 posted on 08/03/2010 12:46:16 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: SmokingJoe

1981: “Is IBM unstoppable?”
1988: “Is Lotus unstoppable?”
1996: “Is Microsoft unstoppable?”
2007: “Is Apple unstoppable?”

Nothing is. Things change.


27 posted on 08/03/2010 12:53:02 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: fremont_steve

That’s all fine and dandy, until you are somewhere without electricity.


28 posted on 08/03/2010 12:54:20 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: fremont_steve

That’s all fine and dandy, until you are somewhere without electricity.


29 posted on 08/03/2010 12:54:24 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale
"Android has some great features and applications. Unfortunately if you use those features and apps, your battery won’t last a single day."

You just carry an extra battery with you. They are about the size of a silver dollar, and cost $8 at amazon. You can get a Droid battery charger for about $10, and charge as many batteries as you'd like. I carry two of them around with me in the car. Changeable batteries is one of the features that makes Droid attractive, and is something that the iPhone lacks.

30 posted on 08/03/2010 12:56:02 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: hope

The point is, none of the current batteries last with GPS or Wi-Fi on


31 posted on 08/03/2010 12:56:05 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: PUGACHEV

Carrying multiple batteries is not the ultimate solution. I just want a battery to last 24 hours.


32 posted on 08/03/2010 12:57:22 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: PUGACHEV

Yeah. I used to carry several batteries for my Jornada.

HATED THAT!

My iPhone will go all day with heavy use. THAT is convenient!


33 posted on 08/03/2010 1:10:22 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: TommyDale

Right. And I was just wondering what an extended life battery would look like on DroidX. I’m getting about 3.5 hours with internet usage...yes it sux, but right now I’m obsessed.


34 posted on 08/03/2010 1:16:06 PM PDT by hope
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

LOL.


35 posted on 08/03/2010 1:18:07 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Gideon7

I was considered at work to be the Lotus 1-2-3 master. As I moved about working and trying to complete my education I would help others convert their Lotus data to Excel...

Hard to beat a black screen with neon green cell display and you always knew where you were in the spread sheet...


36 posted on 08/03/2010 1:32:04 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: TommyDale

I wouldn’t plan on using my Droid in a place where I don’t have electricity. I’d use a compass and the appropriate topo map for the area! Yes I’m actually trained to use the more primitive stuff to navigate around.

But if I’m driving - the droid is nice - and I have NavDroyd so don’t even need to be tethered to the network!

So your comment is sorta useless since we’re talking about useful battery life.


37 posted on 08/03/2010 1:33:06 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: SmokingJoe

If somebody from 1973 could be reading this thread, they would think they are reading a science fiction novel. All this talk of Androids, RIMs and Symbians. This crazy talk would scare the heck out of somebody from 1973, especially if they just got done listening to a mellow Jim Croce or Lobo album.


38 posted on 08/03/2010 1:38:37 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 21 days away from outliving Francis Gary Powers)
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This is impressive. One company with one carrier is doing this well against several companies across all carriers. compare:

The iPhone 4 sold:
    600,000 in first 24 hours of preorder (preorders then halted)
    1.7 million in first three days of sale

The highly-anticipated Motorola Droid X "iPhone killer":
    350,000 to date

The highly-anticipated HTC EVO 4G "iPhone killer":
    150,000 first weekend

Apple doesn't need to worry much.

39 posted on 08/03/2010 1:48:47 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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This is impressive.

Yup.
Android's 886 Percent Year On Year sales increase is stunning and highly impressive. At this rate, Androids would have left the iPhones far, far behind by this time next year. Heck, even by Christmas this year, Android's will be far ahead of the iPhones in market share.

One company with one carrier is doing this well against several companies across all carriers. compare”

That “one company” has plenty of carriers all over the world, including Korea and a gargantuan cell phone company China. These are worldwide figures. No “one carrier” here mate. Lots of carriers.

40 posted on 08/03/2010 2:09:47 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: RachelFaith

VERY helpful, Rachel, thanks! Also thanks to Buddah! I know just enough about these things to be dangerous lol

I was leaning towards iPhone due to my tendency towards “name” brands for electronics and being ATT customer already. Plus, I’ve been pretty happy with my iPod.


41 posted on 08/03/2010 2:10:33 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: SamAdams76

I’m a sci-fi fan, so in the early 70s I’d be thinking words like android (Westworld), service robots (Silent Running), andromeda (Andromeda Strain), OMM and SEN (THX-1138), the concept of a computer virus (again Westworld) and new meanings for the words “book” and “furniture” (Soylent Green).


43 posted on 08/03/2010 2:19:00 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Apple sold Apple Sold 8.4M iPhones in Q2 2010.
http://www.iphonekiller.com/apple-sold-8-4m-iphones-in-q2-2010/

Meanwhile, over 160,000 Androids are being sold every single day, and that was even before the Droid X was launched.
http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/23/160000-android-phones-sold-per-day/

That gives ya a massive 14.4 million Android's sold per quarter, easily trumping iPhone sales. And that is just for starters.

44 posted on 08/03/2010 2:21:44 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
At this rate, Androids would have left the iPhones far, far behind by this time next year.

As market share grows larger, huge percentage growth becomes more difficult (if Android were 10%, there's no way it's jumping to 90% in a quarter).

That “one company” has plenty of carriers all over the world, including Korea and a gargantuan cell phone company China.

The iPhone 4 was only available in America for those few days it was on sale during 2Q, another reason why the 2Q number is unusually low. Thanks for reminding me. Conversely, many Android phones (Hero, Cliq, Galaxy S, etc.) are released overseas before they are released here.

46 posted on 08/03/2010 2:30:16 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Joe, you are comparing Apples to Grapes!

An iPhone is one product made by one company on one platform for one carrier.

Droid is NOT a product it is just an OS. Google doesn’t even SELL it, they make their money off the Ads the pop up on your phone.

Google doesn’t make the phones, DOZENS of phone makers Make the phones. All kinds of phones. And many of them run the Droid OS.

But you are counting OS market share NOT any particular PRODUCT like the iPhone’s marketshare.

If Google was giving away an OS to every carrier that exists, and wasn’t able to top Apple’s one product, on one carrier, I would be WORRIED about them.

But this comparison is like saying how many Cadillac Escalades were sold vs how many Bus Passes were given away.

Mostly an irrelevant set of data.


47 posted on 08/03/2010 2:46:55 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: antiRepublicrat
As market share grows larger, huge percentage growth becomes more difficult (if Android were 10%, there's no way it's jumping to 90% in a quarter).

Android doesn't have to hit 90% to leave the iPhone far, far behind. That 90% figure is all your own, not mine.

The iPhone 4 was only available in America for those few days it was on sale during 2Q, another reason why the 2Q number is unusually low. “

These figures are WORLDWIDE figures. Apple has PLENTY of carriers worldwide, not just one carrier like you claimed in your post. The iPhone is getting clobbered by the Androids in market share anyways.

Conversely, many Android phones (Hero, Cliq, Galaxy S, etc.) are released overseas before they are released here.”

And Canalys made it clear that the US is still by far the biggest smartphone market on the planet, far outpacing China in smartphoine sales. Plus hot selling Android phones like the Droid X came out in rthe US after the end of Q2

48 posted on 08/03/2010 2:47:56 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Joe, you are comparing Apples to Grapes!

Naaaah.
You are coming up with the same discredted excuses that the Applebots drag up whenever Apple is getting clobbered in market share in any market.
Nothing new here. We have been hearing the same crap whenever Windows PC's clobber the Aple mac in IDC/Dataquest market share figures.

An iPhone is one product made by one company on one platform for one carrier.”

The iPhone is carried by a huge number of carriers across the world, including cell phone companies in Korea and China. These are worldwide figures. Stop spewing out garbage.

Droid is NOT a product it is just an OS. “

An OS is not a product?
Since when?
How ,any OS’s have you written?

Google doesn’t even SELL it, they make their money off the Ads the pop up on your phone.”

This article is about Andriod smartphone sales, not just OS sales. Read it. Then you can comment, ok?

But you are counting OS market share NOT any particular PRODUCT like the iPhone’s marketshare”

This article based on figures from Canalys, is counting Android smartphone sales, not Android OS sales. These are physical smartphones. Get it?

If Google was giving away an OS to every carrier that exists, and wasn’t able to top Apple’s one product, on one carrier, I would be WORRIED about them.”

Androids are clobbering the iPhones in market share. Read the figures.

But this comparison is like saying how many Cadillac Escalades were sold vs how many Bus Passes were given away”

Umm..no.
Andrid smartphnes are selling at the same $200 as iPhones are. No Andriod smartphoines are being given away here. You gotta dip in your pocket and pay for the phones, same as you pay for the iPhones. Get it?
What more garbage you gotta spew out?

49 posted on 08/03/2010 3:00:22 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Gideon7

you left off: Wordstar and the guys that had that word processing PC-type platform ... can’t remember the name ... they were everywhere ...


50 posted on 08/03/2010 3:35:35 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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