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Judge being gay a nonissue during Prop. 8 trial
SF Gate.com, ^ | 8/4/10 | Phillip Matier and Andrew Ross

Posted on 08/04/2010 6:09:03 PM PDT by Nachum

The biggest open secret in the landmark trial over same-sex marriage being heard in San Francisco is that the federal judge who will decide the case, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker, is himself gay.

Many gay politicians in San Francisco and lawyers who have had dealings with Walker say the 65-year-old jurist, appointed to the bench by President George H.W. Bush in 1989, has never taken pains to disguise - or advertise - his orientation.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; judge; nonissue; trial

1 posted on 08/04/2010 6:09:07 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Qhbdijv5Y&feature=related


2 posted on 08/04/2010 6:09:37 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Riiiiiight.


3 posted on 08/04/2010 6:09:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Nachum

Hello Frisco!!


4 posted on 08/04/2010 6:09:57 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

San Frisky.


5 posted on 08/04/2010 6:11:57 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Nachum

Outrageous. Should’ve recused himself. Seems like it should be overturned on that basis alone.


6 posted on 08/04/2010 6:12:18 PM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: Nachum

Sure it was a non-issue /s

I’ll support anyone who wants to build a mosque anywhere in California...as many as they’d like.


7 posted on 08/04/2010 6:14:55 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Nachum

Finding an impartial judge could be difficult, have
any goats passed the bar?


8 posted on 08/04/2010 6:15:20 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Nachum
Another gift from New World Order Bush.
9 posted on 08/04/2010 6:15:46 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nachum

If it’s a “nonissue”, why don’t we let convicted murderers try homicide cases?


10 posted on 08/04/2010 6:18:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America! aka The Big Piñata. Bash it and the goodies fall out.)
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To: Nachum

Yeah, the homo judge was just following the law when he cavalierly dismissed the votes of millions of Californians.
Yeah, he’s not a lying sack of shit.


11 posted on 08/04/2010 6:20:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: hinckley buzzard

the same compassionate conservative who appointed David Souter to the bench.


12 posted on 08/04/2010 6:20:47 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: Nachum
So the Honorable Judge should have recused himself, having been so wound up in the outcome. But what do we expect of such self-serving shit-bag liars as have invaded the public space. Utter pestilence.
13 posted on 08/04/2010 6:22:41 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: Nachum

It would have been a non-issue in a case concerning
sea lions in the children’s pool in La Jolla. This
case concerned whether gays can marry. A gay
judge has an axe to grind on the subject. His
opinion has little to do with the law. It was
entirely leveraged on his visceral concern about
“superiority”. That’s going to get slapped down
like annoying mosquito on appeal.


14 posted on 08/04/2010 6:23:26 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Nachum
Read the article.

B. S.

Would the various commentators who consider his gayness an interesting but essentially irrelevant fact feel the same way if the judge was say, a deacon in the Church of Latter Day Saints with the same judging record?

Nope, I didn't think so.

15 posted on 08/04/2010 6:24:31 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Nachum

Ya think Rush or Hannity will touch this one? Naaa.


16 posted on 08/04/2010 6:26:13 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: Myrddin

A sexual degenerate judge has a degenerate mind. But what would we expect from the left coast?


17 posted on 08/04/2010 6:26:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Judge Walker is an outstanding judge, one of the best I have been before. He is highly intelligent, thoughtful, pragmatic and civil to parties and counsel. You could not ask for a better judge. Ignorant speculation about his motives and ideological leanings ignores the fact that the state failed to produce any real evidence or argument to establish a rational basis for the law other than the “wlll of the people.” The state got out lawyered at nearly every turn.


18 posted on 08/04/2010 6:27:00 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: Nachum

Well, sure it’s a non-issue.

It wouldn’t matter if a pedophile judge was ruling on a child pornography case would it?


19 posted on 08/04/2010 6:27:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Will must be the harder, courage the bolder, spirit must be the more, as our might lessens.)
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To: Nachum
The Bushes were totally coming from a different plane of reality.

They did not hate the Federal government, and never met an apparatchik they didn't like.

They let the marxists and sex perverts within gain a formidable presence.

The culling that is coming will be met with much resistance, but it is imperative that the culling be done, or the Republic will fall.

20 posted on 08/04/2010 6:27:14 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Nachum

Good youtube==not people one would want defending oneself.....reminds me of Mel’s portrayal of the worthless “gay” son and his loverboy being tossed out the window in Braveheart.

When you have such a distorted lens to view life as all homosexuals do, importance of societies become nothing more than mere pleasure playgrounds, because there is no future generation (that they truly care about).

Homosexuality is very narcissistic and full of people who have great trouble with sexual restraint (esp. portrayed by the homosexual priests). The importance of sex becomes more importance than survival and any “rules”.

William Blake: The eye altering, alters all.

Homosexuals do not have the same concept of Constitutional rights as the Founders have. They have of course, twisted the document to squeeze out “rights” for immoral behaviors....from a document based on rights that derived from Natural Law and God’s Law. What a joke!!!!


21 posted on 08/04/2010 6:42:20 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Nachum

oh sure...


22 posted on 08/04/2010 6:51:03 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: DryFly

Thanks for your post, I was hoping someone would say something KNOWLEDGEABLE about the judge. Information instead of hype. I look forward to hearing his ruling.


23 posted on 08/04/2010 6:55:22 PM PDT by Paradox (Socialism - trickle up poverty.)
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To: Nachum

“...appointed to the bench by President George H.W. Bush...”

There’s the argument against Jeb Bush right there. We can’t ever, ever, take a chance on him.


24 posted on 08/04/2010 7:00:33 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: DryFly

I agree. And kudos to you for standing up against popular consensus on this thread. While disagreeing with the judge on the merits of this case is fine, to suggest he’s biased simply because he’s gay is stupid. By the same logic, a straight person wouldn’t be a good judge because he would have been biased. Or I guess women shouldn’t be judges when one of the parties is a woman. If these are the kinds of arguments advocates of pro-Prop 8 continue to make to win the case, the case will surely be a loser.


25 posted on 08/04/2010 7:09:16 PM PDT by daniel885
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To: daniel885

have you ever seen judges interact in their private lives?


26 posted on 08/04/2010 7:11:43 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

His private life is none of our business. Government needs to leave a free people alone!


27 posted on 08/04/2010 7:18:39 PM PDT by daniel885
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To: daniel885

when they discuss the cases among their friends and aquaintances it very much becomes an issue.

Judges talk about cases.

It is very clear this judge adopted the born that way myth in pursuit of his own self validation.


28 posted on 08/04/2010 7:29:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: daniel885

This stuff about a heterosexual being “biased” also is INSANE! It comes out of the same mindset that sees homosexuality and heterosexuality as equivalent. It’s no different from the mindset that is unable to distinguish mass murderers from saints because both groups are just people “doing their thing.” Sorry, but what was on trial here was the sort of tolerance that refuses to distinguish right from wrong—and dismisses the very notion of morality as a guide for living in community. The angry and dismissive words this judge wrote about morality make it clear that he started out the trial on the side of those who despise the very notion.


29 posted on 08/04/2010 7:36:03 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Lancey Howard
He is worse than that! How could a referendum, put on the ballot STRICTLY UNDER THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS, in fact the process was to the letter of the law, the CA Constitution, be unconstitutional? The language was ruled constitutional BEFORE it even went on the ballot, and was then, according to the constitution, voted on. Again, every letter of the law, the CA constitution, was followed to the letter. This Judge should be thrown off the bench!
30 posted on 08/04/2010 7:36:57 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: longtermmemmory

I have a hard time believing it’s a myth since it’s not something you can change. Regardless, it’s none of government’s business. Government should stay out of people’s personal lives and, once again, leave a free people alone. They shouldn’t tell them they have to buy health care, aren’t allowed to work for a wage they agree to, can’t leave all their money to their heirs, and certainly not who they can marry. Traditional marriage should be protected by churches, not government. That means churches should choose not to marry gay couples. If you take the view that scripture bans gay marriage, then don’t worry, gay couples won’t be married in the eyes of God just as atheist couples aren’t. But God doesn’t need government to decide who’s legitimately married. We don’t need government to ban atheists from marrying nor gays from marrying. Besides... aren’t we supposed to be the ones who are against Big Government??? Some conservatives are so inconsistent.


31 posted on 08/04/2010 7:37:34 PM PDT by daniel885
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To: gidget7

Because the judge ruled that the amendment (to the California Constitution) was not consistent with the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment of the US Constitution. The California Constitution is subservient to the US Constitution unless California secedes from the Union (which I believe they and all states have a right to do, but that is another topic entirely).


32 posted on 08/04/2010 7:43:53 PM PDT by daniel885
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To: kearnyirish2

“I’ll support anyone who wants to build a mosque
anywhere in California...as many as they’d like.”

Yah, and this native born Californian, who voted
with the majority on Prop 8 and is tired of blank-
et statement cheapshot artists, supports anyone who
wants to build a mosque on top of your house. If
you took a little time to study the matter instead
of painting the whole state with the same brush you
might discover that California is a microcosm of
the US. The coastal area which contains the majority
of the population is land of the libs while conserva-
tism in varying degrees rules the Central Valley and
the Sierra Nevadas. Furthermore, you might want to
consider that this very website was founded in.....
.....CALIFORNIA.


33 posted on 08/04/2010 7:45:35 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: Nachum

Check this out. The best response I have red!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2564762/posts


34 posted on 08/04/2010 7:47:31 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: daniel885; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2564762/posts

Best response I have read on this madman judge.


35 posted on 08/04/2010 7:48:59 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Nachum

When fascism comes to America it will be by one radical activist “judge” in a pink robe nullifying the DEMOCRATIC votes of 7 million voters. Translation: Fascism is here in America.

This issue is not about homosexuality, it is about the very essence of democracy. 7 million Californians voted against so called, “gay marriage” and ONE GAY JUDGE said THEIR DEMOCRATIC VOTE IS MEANINGLESS. Be VERY afraid.


36 posted on 08/04/2010 7:58:04 PM PDT by Binstence (Live Freep or Die)
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To: daniel885
That means churches should choose not to marry gay couples

Fat chance of that once gay marriage is on equal terms with heterosexual marriage in the eyes of the government. The camel's nose is in the tent.

37 posted on 08/04/2010 8:01:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DryFly

go fish


38 posted on 08/04/2010 8:08:14 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: MHGinTN
"A sexual degenerate judge has a degenerate mind."

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient.... ---Romans 1:28

他们既然故意不认识神,神就任凭他们存邪僻的心,行那些不合理的事... ---罗马书1:28

. . . for all those Chinese sodomites in SF!

39 posted on 08/04/2010 8:08:19 PM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: daniel885

God but I wish they would. They need some kind of twelve step program which would lead the government employees above GS 10 to patriotically kill themselves.


40 posted on 08/04/2010 8:15:08 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: DryFly

“Shoo fly dry and I don’t care”. Get used to it.Don’t try to make your problems my problems. Blame them on your mother or your maiden aunt or your peculiar uncle, or on Barnie Frank. Your peculiarity is not my fault and if some Califorica judge thinks it is, it’s time to trim back the judiciary in this country, which thinks it is as beyond control as californicans and other progressive oddfellows.
Judges are paid by taxpayers and that fact is the trump card ultimately. because the the taxpayers tolerance for judicial bullshit is not limitless.


41 posted on 08/04/2010 8:44:02 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: Sivad

I live in NJ; there are already mosques all over the place here. People has plenty to say when NJ allowed “civil unions”; we can say the same when California has “gay marriage”.


42 posted on 08/05/2010 2:42:46 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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