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EPA rules biomass power production too dirty to continue
Fox News Channel | 8/5/10

Posted on 08/05/2010 7:48:43 AM PDT by pabianice

Per Fox, the EPA (i.e. ObamaReidPelosi) has ruled that energy from biomass (trees) is too dirty in producing too much CO2 and thus must pay huge carbon taxes or end. A bewildered biomass company CEO on camera said that he didn't understand but that such a tax would end all biomass energy production since it would be unprofitable.

It is clear that Obama's tree-humpers (see video of lunatics in forest "screaming for the trees that have no voices themselves to protest their cutting-down") have succeeded in basically ending tree cutting via another new set of lies from this administration. Folks, Obama has no intention of stopping his insane policies; he's just doubling down.


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1 posted on 08/05/2010 7:48:44 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Sounds like energy prices will skyrocket. Wonder where I’ve hear this before.....???


2 posted on 08/05/2010 7:50:59 AM PDT by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: pabianice

Obama needs to be impeached, tried for treason and brought to justice.


3 posted on 08/05/2010 7:50:59 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: pabianice

What about those of us who heat with wood fires? (We only use the trees which have come down during the year, due to lightning or high wind, etc.)


4 posted on 08/05/2010 7:52:01 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: pabianice

How about harvesting trees for building instead of energy and instead of importing from Canada???


5 posted on 08/05/2010 7:52:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: pabianice

Maybe I’m looking at this too simply...won’t every tree, bush, etc. alive today eventually die, rot, and emit its carbon into the surrounding environment in some form?


6 posted on 08/05/2010 7:52:48 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: pabianice

I’ve another nine tons of logs to cut, split, and stack to keep us warm for the winter.

When burned, these will contribute nothing to the carbon dioxide count, since next year’s pile is growing as I work.

But the winters are getting worse around here (NH), and I happen to think that summers should be warm.

Just me, YMMV.


7 posted on 08/05/2010 7:52:57 AM PDT by benewton
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To: pabianice

EPA rules Obummer`s bioass too dirty to continue


8 posted on 08/05/2010 7:54:02 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: pabianice

CO2 is not a pollutant,
and if we don’t get this BS stopped,
there’s gonna be a violent conflict as a result.


9 posted on 08/05/2010 7:54:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: pabianice

The energy policy of the Left is no energy. It will make no difference what energy source we move to the Left will find a reason to ban it or tax it out of existence. Reliable, inexpensive energy is what drives progress and by extension wealth and freedom, none of which can be allowed to flourish is a state controlled world. Why do you think they are in full attack mode on carbon?


10 posted on 08/05/2010 7:55:08 AM PDT by redangus
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To: lacrew

“Maybe I’m looking at this too simply...won’t every tree, bush, etc. alive today eventually die, rot, and emit its carbon into the surrounding environment in some form?”

There you go, introducing science and logic into an environmental debate...


11 posted on 08/05/2010 7:55:39 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Marxism is Evil.)
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To: lacrew

And here’s another thing to ponder: in times of drought, old trees feed wildfires, not only burning property, livestock, sometimes people—but they create a LOT of smoke, thanks to not clearing the old trees. Then again, liberals don’t tend to think logically...


12 posted on 08/05/2010 7:57:06 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: lacrew
Maybe I’m looking at this too simply...won’t every tree, bush, etc. alive today eventually die, rot, and emit its carbon into the surrounding environment in some form?

Yeah, but, see, then it's not anthropogenic carbon dioxide. It's natural.

This really is too stupid for words. The problem with fossil fuels, assuming you accept that carbon is a problem in the first place, is that they release carbon that was stored hundreds of millions of years ago. The carbon released by burning trees was recently taken out of the system, when the tree grew.

13 posted on 08/05/2010 7:57:50 AM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: pabianice

Reid can’t get the votes to pass cap and trade so now we get this.


14 posted on 08/05/2010 7:59:06 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said)
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To: lacrew

But that would be Gaia simply promoting the cycle of life (song track inserted here), not you evil human beings destroying everything in sight.


15 posted on 08/05/2010 8:00:18 AM PDT by Pecos
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To: benewton

I’ve got two winter’s worth of oak, split and stacked plus at least two or three year’s worth of wood that could be cut and split.
Our house has a ground source heat pump with thermal floor so I could get by without any wood. Still, we have so much of this stuff and I hate to see it rot.


16 posted on 08/05/2010 8:00:42 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: pabianice
The only "green" energy that is cost effective is too dirty?

Such insanity !


17 posted on 08/05/2010 8:01:16 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: MrB

It IS really starting to look like that IS what “they” want....i.e. “conflict.” What with the continual piling on of unconstitutional, freedom killing actions....


18 posted on 08/05/2010 8:01:46 AM PDT by goodnesswins (WHEN DEMOCRATS LOSE.....America WINS!)
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To: lacrew
-- won't every tree, bush, etc. alive today eventually die, rot, and emit its carbon into the surrounding environment in some form? --

The global warming scam artists say the balance between "in the atmosphere" and "in the ground" is what matters. A decaying tree, on the ground, is harmless. But if you burn it, then trouble.

It's baloney. The carbon in the trees, etc. comes from CO2 in the air, in the first place.

19 posted on 08/05/2010 8:03:49 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: pabianice

The EPA needs to go period.


20 posted on 08/05/2010 8:04:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: lacrew
Maybe I’m looking at this too simply...won’t every tree, bush, etc. alive today eventually die, rot, and emit its carbon into the surrounding environment in some form?

There you go again! Don't confuse us with facts...

21 posted on 08/05/2010 8:06:48 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: pabianice
Hmmm sound like he didn't pay his protection money (campaign donation) to the correct Dem bureaucrats
22 posted on 08/05/2010 8:07:05 AM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: pabianice

When the Socialists are thrown out, the first agency to be abolished must be the EPA. We can get Education and Energy next.


23 posted on 08/05/2010 8:08:05 AM PDT by cayuga (Can the US survive an electorate stupid enough to send 0bama to the White House?)
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To: redangus

You are right in what you say,
and I would go further to amend it a bit to say

their policy is no energy for YOU, but for them, different rules apply.

Not only do they seek to control and oppress everyone,
they want there to be a DIFFERENCE between the “elite” and the “masses”

lifestyles. They want a HUGE difference. They’re currently not happy that individuals can have a near equivalent lifestyle to theirs.


24 posted on 08/05/2010 8:08:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: goodnesswins

Hegelian/Marxist dialectic:

pit ANY two or more groups against each other
agitate to the point of conflict
step in with an iron fist of tyranny when conflict breaks out, because it will be welcomed.


25 posted on 08/05/2010 8:09:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: pabianice

Have you ever noticed that starvation happens mostly in Socialist countries? EVERYTHING they do is a deliberate work against survival.


26 posted on 08/05/2010 8:13:33 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: cayuga

The EPA is an unecessary waste of money.

People today are far more aware and educated about “real” pollution than they were in the 40s and 50s.


27 posted on 08/05/2010 8:15:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: pabianice
A bewildered biomass company CEO...

Yes, he was "bewildered" when he bought in to the "green" movement and tried to profit from it. What a fool for trying to suck up to the government. Serves him right.

28 posted on 08/05/2010 8:17:36 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: redangus

Not only does this kill ‘methenal’production, but it opens the door to banning wood burning furnaces and, in time, fireplaces. Brave new world


29 posted on 08/05/2010 8:30:51 AM PDT by maine yankee
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

>>The only “green” energy that is cost
>>effective is too dirty?

Well now we wouldn’t want the serfs staying warm... and reading the Declaration of Independence by the light of burning wood, harvested on their own property, would we?

They might get the idea they can survive without being the subjugated property of the hive’s owners.

Can’t have that - the “special” relationship must continue.


30 posted on 08/05/2010 8:31:14 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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31 posted on 08/05/2010 8:32:12 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: thethirddegree
Obama needs to be impeached, tried for treason and brought to justice.

How about everyone in D.C.

32 posted on 08/05/2010 8:36:02 AM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: maine yankee
Beyond Petroleum doesn't mean Beyond Serfdom?
 
 
BOHICA!

33 posted on 08/05/2010 8:37:03 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: pabianice

While this may be true, I’ll have to see the actual EPA report to believe it.


34 posted on 08/05/2010 8:40:08 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: pabianice

I call a foul. Note that there is no link in the post. I dont know how this could even get posted without one.

I went to Fox News and there is nothing there about this story that I could find.


35 posted on 08/05/2010 8:45:47 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: pabianice

I didn’t see the story or any reference at FoxNews.com. I did find a story from yesterday that a group is claiming EPA has the woody biomass carbon neutral theory all wrong.

I’m working to develop a dead wood biomass to energy project right now, using landfilled wood chips. The wrong message from EPA could stop it in its tracks.

[Yeah, I know. This is only viable with tax credits and great power purchase rates forced on the power companies. But it’s worth a shot.]

Don’t hate me ‘cause I’m green.


36 posted on 08/05/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by bigred44
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To: pabianice

The purpose is not environmentalism.

The purpose is not greening, nor reducing foreign oil.

The purpose is to choke us, as a country, until we are DEAD.


37 posted on 08/05/2010 8:48:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: pabianice
A bewildered biomass company CEO on camera said that he didn't understand but that such a tax would end all biomass energy production since it would be unprofitable.

I guess he IS bewildered, since the Obama administration was supposed to be all for 'clean' energy. I guess it just isn't clean enough.

Oh, and his complaint that it would no longer be profitable shows the CEO doesn't understand that libs think the idea of profit is bad, and that he SHOULD be taxed more because he's 'stealing' from the little guy.

38 posted on 08/05/2010 9:15:03 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: redangus
The energy policy of the Left is no energy. It will make no difference what energy source we move to the Left will find a reason to ban it or tax it out of existence. Reliable, inexpensive energy is what drives progress and by extension wealth and freedom, none of which can be allowed to flourish is a state controlled world. Why do you think they are in full attack mode on carbon?

Perfectly stated.

39 posted on 08/05/2010 10:37:28 AM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: SuziQ
A bewildered biomass company CEO on camera said that he didn't understand but that such a tax would end all biomass energy production since it would be unprofitable...

Bewildered and clueless. I suspect he was an Obama voter.

40 posted on 08/05/2010 10:40:34 AM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: bigred44
Don’t hate me ‘cause I’m green.

Good job. Suck as much money out of the system as possible.

41 posted on 08/05/2010 10:44:30 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: MrB

“CO2 is not a pollutant,
and if we don’t get this BS stopped,
there’s gonna be a violent conflict as a result.”

Off-topic, but I’m going to speculate that we have passed that point where such a conflict can, or SHOULD, be prevented.

All that’s needed is the final straw....


42 posted on 08/05/2010 1:48:41 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Grumplestiltskin

The gun and ammo sales of the past 2 years are the powder keg that has been filled, just waiting for that “spark”.

I know some folks say you can never buy enough ammo,
but I think the unavailability followed by easy availability
shows that most who were stocking up have stocked up “enough”,

and are awaiting the outcome of November.


43 posted on 08/05/2010 1:55:45 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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