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More J-School Grads Getting Shut Out of News Jobs that Still Pay Just $30,000 (Dinosaur Media)
Editor and Publisher ^ | August 04, 2010 | Mark Fitzgerald

Posted on 08/05/2010 12:32:26 PM PDT by GOPGuide

CHICAGO The median salary paid a new graduate of a journalism and mass communications remained at $30,000 for the fourth consecutive year, but those jobs are now scarcer than they’ve been for j-school grads since 1987.

At daily newspapers, the median starting salary was $27,000, and at weeklies, new grads were paid a median salary of $25,000.

That’s according to the Annual Survey of Journalism & Mass Communication Graduates conducted since 1987 by Lee D.. Becker director of the University of Georgia’s James M. Cox Jr. Center for International Mass Communication Training and Research at the University of Georgia.

New grads starting in union jobs made more than their non-union counterparts – but the gap has narrowed considerably. In 2008, for instance, union jobs started at a median of $34,400 while non-union jobs paid a median $30,000.

In 2009, non-union jobs were stuck at $30,000, but the union job pay declined to $30,700.

Only 46.2% of the bachelor’s degree recipients had a job on Oct. 31, 2009, which was more than 10 percentage points fewer than a year earlier, the survey found. About a quarter were working part-time, and another quarter were unemployed.

Racial and ethnic minority journalism graduates had a particularly difficult time finding a job, the survey found. Their full-time employment rate dropped 13.5 percentage points from the year-ago survey.

And the gap between the percentage of minority and non-minority graduates in terms of full-time employment was 15.3 points – the widest-yawning gap since 1987.

There was some good news/bad news results in the salary survey. On the one hand, the median salary was unchanged, while the average starting salary offer to all college graduates declined 1.9% from the year before, the National Association of Colleges and Employers (NACE) reported last September.

On the other hand, that average salary at $48,663 was far higher than for cub journalists. And the average graduate with a liberal arts bachelor’s degree also did better than j-school grads, with an offer of $36,624.

The graduate survey produced one bit of good news, according to Dr. Lee B. Becker, director of the survey. Graduates reporting on their job searches in the late spring of 2010 were much more likely to have found a full-time job than were graduates reporting at the end of 2009.

The full report, available here and written by Becker and fellow researchers Dr. Tudor Vlad, Paris Desnoes and Devora Olin, was released today at the annual conference of the Association for Education in Journalism and Mass Communication in Denver.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: college; journalism; jschool; undergraduates
Have fun paying off you $15,000 school debt, kids!
1 posted on 08/05/2010 12:32:30 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: abb

Pingalingaling


2 posted on 08/05/2010 12:33:03 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

That high?


3 posted on 08/05/2010 12:33:31 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

That’s for the few who actually found full time jobs.

Going to be tough to pay off their $15,000 school debt with salaries that low.


4 posted on 08/05/2010 12:34:28 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

Journalism..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahahahahHAHAHAhahhaahhahahHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!


5 posted on 08/05/2010 12:34:40 PM PDT by RingerSIX
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To: GOPGuide

We know what they are...its just the price that is being haggled.


6 posted on 08/05/2010 12:35:15 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: RingerSIX

What’s the average tuition for Journalism schools? $5,000 a year?


7 posted on 08/05/2010 12:35:41 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

From what I have heard, journalism majors on most college campuses have among the lowest aggregate GPA among all majors—only education majors have lower, I believe. So 30k might be a tad too high.


8 posted on 08/05/2010 12:37:03 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (A conservative in the television industry--yes, we do exist)
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To: GOP_Raider

I’ve always been told that Journalism majors are former English majors who couldn’t cut it. It’s a gold-plated fact they know nothing of the hard sciences - math, physics, chemistry, etc.

I have a theory that ‘business reporters’ are picked from j-school prospects that raise their hands when asked if they can reconcile a checkbook.


9 posted on 08/05/2010 12:40:56 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: GOP_Raider
Rush had the best advise ever for budding journalist grads.

Go out and destroy the career of a Republican. You will be showered with accolades and promotions.

10 posted on 08/05/2010 12:41:43 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: abb
I’ve always been told that Journalism majors are former English majors who couldn’t cut it. Journalism majors say they went into Journalism because math and science are beneath them.
11 posted on 08/05/2010 12:43:02 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

The kids don’t realize with the Lefty agenda; this is all they will ever hope to earn.


12 posted on 08/05/2010 12:45:46 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: GOPGuide
Avg - public 8K; private 45-50K.

Watch out for the student loan debt crisis bubble with all this unemployment. My neighbors have 2 kids maxed-out with student loans and no jobs. (BTW, communication majors :) )

13 posted on 08/05/2010 12:46:59 PM PDT by NoExpectations
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To: GOPGuide; abb; writer33

what news jobs?


14 posted on 08/05/2010 12:47:46 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: GOPGuide

Well thank god we’re living in an economic boom so they can easily find good paying jobs in other fields. :)


15 posted on 08/05/2010 12:49:10 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: GOPGuide

30k is good pay to some of us.


16 posted on 08/05/2010 12:54:57 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: GOPGuide
The author demonstrates one of the basics of journalism: Who, What, Were, When, and How are minorities affected.

Racial and ethnic minority journalism graduates had a particularly difficult time finding a job,

17 posted on 08/05/2010 12:57:56 PM PDT by DManA
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To: freekitty

But since most are good liberals, they reject materialism and only want to push the liberal agenda. That is their reward, that they are helping push society towards the liberal view of any issue.


18 posted on 08/05/2010 12:59:07 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: NoExpectations
Watch out for the student loan debt crisis bubble with all this unemployment. My neighbors have 2 kids maxed-out with student loans and no jobs. (BTW, communication majors :) )

And the coming bailout... those who paygo are once again screwed by the socialist state...

19 posted on 08/05/2010 12:59:13 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: GOPGuide

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/sfs/docs/University_Tuition_And_Fees/Tuition_Rate_and_Fees.html

$20,000 a semester for a Journalism major.

And those slackers are on a 5 year plan minimum.


20 posted on 08/05/2010 1:00:36 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Actually, the core “motivation” of liberalism, and being a liberal, is to feel good, if not superior, about yourself.


21 posted on 08/05/2010 1:02:26 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Snickering Hound

What is it - 3 semesters per year? I did summer semesters all the time so I lost track.

Tons of Saudi money and Obama money stolen from tax payers to hire some to spew the party line.


22 posted on 08/05/2010 1:06:38 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Snickering Hound; abb
$20,000 a semester for a Journalism major. And those slackers are on a 5 year plan minimum.

Hm, going to be hard for them to pay off their student loans when all their potential employers are bleeding circulation and revenue left and right, right abb? :)

23 posted on 08/05/2010 1:07:11 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

Furthermore, what they do (tell who, what, when, where, why and how) can be done by most anyone who can string a sentence together. Most never had the tools with which to work. With the internet, lots do now.

The “news monopoly” was never a monopoly of content or skill. It was a monopoly of distribution.


24 posted on 08/05/2010 1:09:54 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: NoExpectations

I refuse to pay back my student loans. I want free money instead. Everyone with kids gets welfare. Corporations and states get bailouts. It’s not just communications majors, it’s ALL majors. They punish people for doing the right thing: going to school and trying to get a job.


25 posted on 08/05/2010 1:36:40 PM PDT by DreamingWest
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To: GOPGuide
Have fun paying off you $15,000 school debt, kids!

That's for the correspondence courses. Isn't Columbia something like 30K a YEAR? Hahaha.

26 posted on 08/05/2010 1:45:57 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: GOPGuide
Have you seen their product? They're lucky they're not minimum wage. Besides, we don't need journalists. We need reporters. Old fashioned, hard-nosed, facts-craving reporters. What we have had for the past thirty years is a lot of DNC hacks waiting on the free buffets.

Drudge is a reporter. He rakes in $12 million a year. That's how hungry the market is for news. Not JOURNALISM. NEWS.

27 posted on 08/05/2010 1:46:23 PM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: abb
I’ve always been told that Journalism majors are former English majors who couldn’t cut it. It’s a gold-plated fact they know nothing of the hard sciences - math, physics, chemistry, etc.

Even basic sorts of things tend to evade their grasp. Put it this way: I'm pretty certain that the Peter Principle applies to people in my line of work, especially those one sees on the air.

(It does seem sort of ironic I guess that the would-be candidate for the GOP nomination in 2012 has a degree in Journalism.)

28 posted on 08/05/2010 1:49:53 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (A conservative in the television industry--yes, we do exist)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Not one liberal I have ever seen has reject materialism.


29 posted on 08/05/2010 1:50:44 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: GOPGuide

Well DUH!! After all, how RARE are 21 year old, brainless leftists??!!


30 posted on 08/05/2010 2:02:18 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: abb
prospects that raise their hands when asked if they can reconcile a checkbook.

My wife and I had to teach our daughter how to reconcile her checkbook. HS & college taught her nothing about that. A lot of people think that as long as you have checks left, you have money in the bank.

31 posted on 08/05/2010 2:02:55 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

As fresh journalism graduates, they should then write it 100 times from the safety of their Mom’s basement before they have to say it to a valued customer. “Sir would you like fries with that?”


32 posted on 08/05/2010 2:28:37 PM PDT by SanFranDan
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To: GeronL

When I grow up, I want to be a journalism graduate. LOL!


33 posted on 08/05/2010 3:01:55 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: GOPGuide

As a j-school graduate, I can tell you that it’s always been a poor-paying profession until you got near the top. If you happen to be a tv news anchor in a large city or national network, it can be a well-paying gig but the grunts get paid a pittance which is part of the reason the media is staffed largely by ideology-driven zealots as opposed to objective reporters.

Those who aren’t in it for the goal of spreading an ideology left for greener pastures a long time ago.


34 posted on 08/05/2010 3:50:44 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: OrangeHoof

“I can tell you that it’s always been a poor-paying profession until you got near the top.”

The guys at “the top” like NYTimes and WaPo reporters are also being culled laid off left and right.

Btw, do you know when (if they haven’t done so already) the top propaganda outlets like the NYTimes are going to start cutting ad rates because of steep circulation declines.

Even liberal Marketing agencies (which is almost all of them) aren’t going to pay top dollar to the NYTimes if fewer eyeballs are reading the NYTimes print edition.


35 posted on 08/05/2010 4:07:15 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: pnh102

$30,000 USD represents the top 7% of earners globally.
WANNA TAX THE RICH NOW?


36 posted on 08/05/2010 4:28:01 PM PDT by griswold3 ('Regulation and law without enforcement is no law at all)
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To: GOPGuide

If I owned a newspaper, my first policy would be that NO JOURNALISM MAJORS NEED APPLY.


37 posted on 08/05/2010 5:05:28 PM PDT by cookcounty ("Today's White House reporters seem one ball short of a ping pong scrimmage.")
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
a new graduate of a journalism and mass communications
Wow, they give degrees in partisan shilling?
38 posted on 08/05/2010 6:30:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: GOPGuide

They should go into technical writing if they want to get paid.


39 posted on 08/05/2010 6:55:07 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph
They should go into technical writing if they want to get paid.

Shhh! Don't tell them. My daughter was a writer and editor for magazines. She saw the writing on the wall 5 years ago and went into technical writing. She's doing quite well now, highly paid, very busy and has too much work. The magazine she worked for went bust this year. She was an English major and wanted to be a journalist since she was 14. Glad she's not one now.

40 posted on 08/05/2010 7:23:56 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

Good for her. And if you find a subject you’re interested in, it’s even more fun.


41 posted on 08/05/2010 7:34:27 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: GOPGuide
This is good news. Perhaps if we weed out the J-School flunkies we can get some ambitious young writers who actually want to report what's going on.
42 posted on 08/05/2010 8:26:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
Here's a start: Right Network

And the TEA Party Express News source

43 posted on 08/06/2010 4:03:05 AM PDT by rabidralph
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