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Mayor to mosque foes: Shut up already!
ny post ^ | 8/7/2010 | BILL SANDERSON

Posted on 08/08/2010 6:02:22 AM PDT by tobyhill

Mayor Bloomberg won’t stop talking about the mosque near Ground Zero, harshly attacking opponents yesterday who “ought to be ashamed of themselves.”

Sounding more supportive of freedom of religion than freedom of speech, Bloomberg said, "I just don't think the government should tell people where they can pray and where they can build houses of worship.

"It is a shame that we even have to talk about this," the mayor added on his WOR radio broadcast.

The mayor ratcheted up his rhetoric against critics just days after defending the mosque in an impassioned speech on Governors Island, with the Statue of Liberty as a backdrop.

Yesterday, Bloomberg said cops and firefighters who died on 9/11 didn't ask people in the World Trade Center, "Where do you pray?" as they tried to save their lives.

"Most of the [9/11 rescuers'] families that I've talked to, they say, 'Of course our loved ones gave their lives to protect the very freedoms that we're talking about here -- people being able to practice religion and say what they want to say and be in control of their own destiny,' " the mayor said.

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1 posted on 08/08/2010 6:02:23 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Typical out of touch filthy rich-guy Yankee bump. What is he today? An ‘R’, ‘I’ or ‘D’? I can’t keep up.


2 posted on 08/08/2010 6:05:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: tobyhill

The people of NY need to rise up and throw this anti - American bum out.

They need to chain themselves to the site if need be, have Bloomberg attempt to arrest the families of 911 victims if need be. Would the NYC cops do that?

Time for a SHOWDOWN!


3 posted on 08/08/2010 6:09:34 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: central_va

He’s a C (not Conservative)

But I can’t say what C stands for. :)


4 posted on 08/08/2010 6:09:51 AM PDT by NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN ('he who creates something worthwhile, never dies.'')
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To: tobyhill
When the Mayor speaks I just keep hearing "Shhhh...they're mad enough already...let's not make them madder. You saw what they did last time..."
5 posted on 08/08/2010 6:10:46 AM PDT by n230099
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To: tobyhill

Does anyone know if there is a recall provision in the NYC mayoral laws?


6 posted on 08/08/2010 6:11:20 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: tobyhill

Hopefully his last term as Mayor and with any luck when he leaves office he will dry up and blow away.


7 posted on 08/08/2010 6:13:09 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: tobyhill
so the first amendment rights of Muzzies are sacrosanct but not of Christians...

and the 2nd amendment is non existent.

got it..

Bloomberg you are one elitist, crony capitalist, POS little nebish of a turd....

8 posted on 08/08/2010 6:13:14 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: tobyhill

“I just don’t think the government should tell people where they can pray and where they can build houses of worship. “It is a shame that we even have to talk about this,”

.... but like all other mayors, they are quick to tell you where, and in what you can live, call your home


9 posted on 08/08/2010 6:13:16 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN

But the whole pro-Mosque movement, Bloomberg, Cuomo, Manhattan Boro President Stringer are SO hateful of anyone who opposes the mosque.

It is almost unprecedent the venom the pro-mosque side has for the anti-mosque crowd.

Is there any chance that maybe Mike and other public officials have been told:

NO Mosque, more attacks on NYC.

Is the government maybe being blackmailed? Just a crazy thought I’ve had.


10 posted on 08/08/2010 6:14:00 AM PDT by NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN ('he who creates something worthwhile, never dies.'')
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To: tobyhill

If one considers the cult of islam to be a religion, he has a point. But no one in their right mind considers islam to be anything other than a murdering cult. This cult hands out death for improper behavior, leaving the cult, or even if one refuses to join the cult. The koranimals are all nuts. They are incompatible with the 21st century.


11 posted on 08/08/2010 6:14:24 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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To: tobyhill

Send a message to Blooomberg at
http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html


12 posted on 08/08/2010 6:15:52 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: ByteMercenary

This woman may know more about Islam than the Mayor!

http://books.google.com/books?id=pmmCnppIll0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=brigitte+gabriel&source=bl&ots=eRVETRW6o9&sig=P6ZZ864DO6SMnzigo-slVZ70X8s&hl=en&ei=MKxeTJv3OIP68Aa9xb25DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false


13 posted on 08/08/2010 6:17:26 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter -God's redemption)
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To: tobyhill
Bloomberg can say what he wants but the final say will come from the people, I suspect it will never be built.
15 posted on 08/08/2010 6:17:58 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: tobyhill

Le Roi Bloomberg tires of this peasant dissent. Enough Already - or off with your heads!


16 posted on 08/08/2010 6:18:48 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: tobyhill

Feel sorry for those from New York who did not vote for this arrogant a-hole.

For those who voted for your mayor, next time look beyond the end of your nose when voting.

Now suffer with this arrogant moron who also cares for America as much as his buddy, mac daddy “The Liar In-Chief”.


17 posted on 08/08/2010 6:20:40 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: ByteMercenary
The koranimals are all nuts. They are incompatible with the 21st century HUMANITY.

There. Fixed it!

18 posted on 08/08/2010 6:24:07 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Venturer

Can Rudy run again?


19 posted on 08/08/2010 6:25:14 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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To: tobyhill

Bloomie must have a personal financial interest in this.

It certainly isn’t the view of most people.


20 posted on 08/08/2010 6:28:00 AM PDT by hgro (Jerry Riversdun)
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To: tobyhill
Bloomberg is a nanny state tool. The idiots who voted for him deserve what they got.
21 posted on 08/08/2010 6:28:47 AM PDT by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: tobyhill
"I just don't think the government should tell people where they can pray and where they can build houses of worship.

You tell 'em, Mayor Bloomberg. How dare the government think that it can tell people where they can and can't build buildings.

We don't need no stinkin' planning and zoning departments, commissioners, or regulations. Time to shut down all of those corrupt building inspectors and their lousy permits.

It's about time that a responsible government official stood up to the vast and grotesque overreach of stifling and petty government regulations that needlessly burden the lives of ordinary citizens.

/s

Oh, that's not what you meant, Mikey? What a fool.

22 posted on 08/08/2010 6:35:00 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: tobyhill

Bloomburg

23 posted on 08/08/2010 6:36:12 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: tobyhill

I assume the American people can only be **** on for so long and at some point are going to make some sort of a stand.


24 posted on 08/08/2010 6:37:37 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Sparky1776
The people of NY need to rise up and throw this anti - American bum out.

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Yea, we need to get rid of liberal politicans.

That's one part of this picture... Here's another.

Let's look overseas: Hamas, which is the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood has been formally designated a terrorist organization under our law for many years. According to its charter, Hamas's purpose is to create an Islamic Palestinian state by eliminating Israel through violent jihad.

The Muslim Brotherhood explained in an internal memorandum that their work in the United States was as a 'grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within.' The Brotherhood said its tactic would be 'sabotage.'

The 1991 memorandum elaborates that every city should have an 'axis' and 'perimeter' from which this jihad-by-sabotage strategy is headquartered. That axis will be known as 'the Islamic Center.' Islamic centers are to become 'the ‘base’ for our rise, the memo says. They are to be the focal point of education, preparation, and the 'supply of our battalions.' Battalions are small cells of fighters. In Muslim Brotherhood ideology it is assumed that, at a certain mature point, when Muslim forces are strong enough, violent jihad will be effective. And Islamists prepare for it. Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi, the spiritual guide of the Muslim Brotherhood, has proclaimed that 'dawa', the stealth form of jihad, is the method by which Islam will 'conquer America' and 'conquer Europe.'

The Saudis have been underwriting the Brotherhood's dawa efforts for decades.

Appeasement does not work, and has never worked all throughout history.

On May 28, 2010, President Obama informed the world that the 'war on terror' was over.

'Our long-term security will not come from our ability to instill fear in other peoples but through our capacity to speak to their hopes,' the President explained. Terms like new partnerships, multilateral diplomacy, and tough engagement surfaced in the document, all leading to Obama's point that 'to succeed, we must face the world as it is.'

BARF! Sounds like Clinton and Albright, all over again.

The deterrent effect depends on the rationality of the attacker. Iran gets a bomb and delivery mechanism and this effect may go out the window. They are the kids who never played well with others. They have no ideological problem with an apocalypse like what the Judeo-Christian faith has.

The president's strategy is absolutely clear about the threat we face. Our enemy is not terrorism because terrorism is but a tactic. Our enemy is not terror because terror is a state of mind and, as Americans, we refuse to live in fear. Nor do we describe our enemy as jihadists or Islamists because jihad is holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam meaning to purify oneself or one's community."
               -- May 26, 2010, John Brennan, Assistant to the President and Deputy
                  National Security Adviser for Homeland Security

WAKE UP AMERICA

Charles Martel-2

Liberals are dangerous but Fanatics will get you and your family killed.

25 posted on 08/08/2010 6:41:30 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: tobyhill

This is such a silly argument that he makes, and if he doesn’t recognize that he shouldn’t be mayor of anything.
Church bells on private property have been silenced because the neighbors didn’t want to hear them. American flags have been banned on private property because neighbors didn’t want to see them. Who does Bloomberg think he’s kidding with this “if Muslims can’t build the mosque RIGHT HERE the terrorists have won” nonsense? Does he believe NYers and all Americans are stupid?


26 posted on 08/08/2010 6:42:44 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: central_va
What is he today? An ‘R’, ‘I’ or ‘D’? I can’t keep up

"H" for Hamas.

27 posted on 08/08/2010 6:44:57 AM PDT by alrea
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To: tobyhill

Bloomberg does not realize that Islam is evil? He wants a building at ground zero that will teach more people about the evils of Islam? 9/11 was not enough?


28 posted on 08/08/2010 6:49:59 AM PDT by abclily
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To: tobyhill

He needs to be given the French revolution treatment


29 posted on 08/08/2010 7:02:25 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: tobyhill

Here’s what I send to Bloomberg’s office:

In ten years, you’ve been unable to rebuild the Twin Towers or even create a decent memorial to the 9/11 victims. Instead, you now support building a Mosque which will be widely seen in the Muslim world as a symbol of triumph over America. This symbol of triumph will inspire confidence among radical Islamists that they can indeed defeat the U.S. As such, your Mosque will be used as a recruiting tool for terrorists and will encourage further attacks on the U.S. This is not simply a political issue; this strikes at the soul of America. You have no idea the depth of the outrage in America over the 9/11 Mosque. You better be prepared to have 24/7 police protechtion of your Mosque during and after construction. America is not about to let you and your simmering liberals to desicrate our country and give aid and comfort to our enemies by building a Mosque next to the most destructive attack on America since Pearl Harbor. Your support of the Mosque is tantamount to treason.


30 posted on 08/08/2010 7:13:24 AM PDT by vekzen
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN

Bloomberg is nothing but a pathetic Soros wannabe. Vast sums of personal wealth are no insurance against: (1) ingratitude toward your ancestors and previous generations (who made the ultimate sacrifice so that the wealthy today could flourish in relative security and freedom); (2) mental illness; and (3) megalomania. What really angers is that amongst all of the scions of wealth in this country, who have benefited most from capitalism, free markets, the rule of law, and freedom of expression (excepting Limbaugh) there is not to be heard the tiniest mouse squeak in opposition to the wholesale destruction the left is raining down upon this country. It is emanating from every branch of the federal government and its policies of appeasement and collusion toward Mexico and the drug cartels, continued appeasement toward Islam, laissez faire toward illegal alien invasion and anchor citizenship, DOJ refusals to deport and secure the border in accordance with the rule of law already established in the statute books, DOJ lawsuits against state legislatures who are trying to support and enforce existing federal law in the presence of the federal government’s abject refusal to do so in contravention of its clear Constitional duty to do so, and accommodation and financial support for sworn Muslim enemies such as Hamas. Add to this mix virulent hostility toward our most important ally Israel. Whatever has happened to “noblesse oblige”? And how is it that the left has managed to poison the minds of every dynastic family in America? And silenced the tongues of those who have not been co-opted? These are questions that must be resolved if the country is not to be devoured. We need to have the dynastic families on our side. Right now they are not. All branches of the federal government are in the hands of usurpers and enemies of the Constitution. The ballot box is a farce, with both parties currently owned by the liberal elites. The military has been feminized and castrated (suicidal ROE’s), and is all but useless except for window dressing or limited police actions (Afghanistan and Iraq) and humanitarian functions. A pitched battle today between Chinese or Korean military forces on the ground, who operate under no politically correct regulations, and the U.S military, constrained by bureaucratic political correctness would be a disaster of incredible proportion for our side. Computers are incapable of destroying an enemy without the back up of a strong institutional and personal will to do so. The Tea Party has succumbed to demonization from the race-baiters, and is now largely in reactionary purge mode. A virulent entrenched hatred for middle class values unites illegals, family dynasties, organized religions, and liberals in the federal government and the media. This is the most pernicious alliance middle America has ever had to deal with. The states have the best chance of cutting the tendrils and the monetary lifelines to the cancer that is Washington DC but it will take very powerful and controversial state legislative initiatives across the map to get this off the ground. I am not certain it can be accomplished in the time remaining before the balance of power shifts irretrievably in favor of America’s enemies here and abroad.


31 posted on 08/08/2010 7:17:00 AM PDT by 4Runner (absurd rules of engagement)
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To: tobyhill
...harshly attacking opponents yesterday who “ought to be ashamed of themselves.”

You've got it all mixed up as to who ought to be ashamed of themselves, Fuhrer Bloomberg.

32 posted on 08/08/2010 7:18:23 AM PDT by Allegra (We are all humblegunner...and Pablo is very wily.)
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To: tobyhill

ALL CONSERVATIVES SHOULD BOYCOTT nyc.


33 posted on 08/08/2010 7:35:55 AM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Dusty Road

I wonder if we could get a permit for a 4 H club to hold their Hog judging competition on the site?


34 posted on 08/08/2010 7:40:23 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: tobyhill

Where has his nibs been? Christian churches get turned down for conditional use permits all the time due to city zoning rules and regs.


35 posted on 08/08/2010 7:47:40 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: tobyhill

Will this mosque be paying taxes?


36 posted on 08/08/2010 8:09:44 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (2012, the end of our long national nightmare.)
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To: tobyhill

The very freedoms he speaks about are trampled on by Islam and the Imam pushing this project wants sharia law in the US ending all personal liberty.


37 posted on 08/08/2010 8:13:59 AM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: Vaquero
Bloomberg seeks the blessings of Satan.
38 posted on 08/08/2010 8:19:17 AM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: tobyhill
THE EMPORER OF NEW YORK HAS SPOKEN!!!!!
39 posted on 08/08/2010 8:39:02 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Only criminals, dictators and democrats fear armed citizens.)
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN
He’s a C (not Conservative)

But I can’t say what C stands for. :)

Convoluted ? he he he

40 posted on 08/08/2010 9:28:23 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: tobyhill
"I just don't think the government should tell people where they can pray and where they can build houses of worship.

All right! Way to go, dude!
Bloomberg wants to do away with zoning laws!

What?! If liberals do it why can't I?

41 posted on 08/08/2010 9:35:00 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tobyhill

bloomberg is a case of arrested development


42 posted on 08/08/2010 11:52:02 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: tobyhill

Does anyone know the members of the Landmarks Preservation Commission and their names....how many are Muslims or have Muslim affiliations? Mayor Bloomberg is guilty of High Treason
for siding with Islam over America.....9/11 was not just a New York City event, it was an American event....Muslims Attacked America. Will this numskull ever see the light? As an America who was also attacked, I do not want this Muslim Trophy Mosque...they did not win or ever will. Imam Feisal Abdul Rau is an oily liar, he does not want peace, he wants Sharia Law in America and he will stop at nothing for get his mosque. SHAME on New York’s Mayor, the city deserves better.


43 posted on 08/08/2010 2:00:32 PM PDT by yoe ("N" is for NO for Progressives in government.)
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