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Mitch Daniels: We need a “truce” on social issues (Daniels: SoCons are a Distraction)
Hot Air ^ | June 10, 2010 | Allahpundit

Posted on 08/10/2010 2:28:39 PM PDT by GOPGuide

Alternate headline: “Mitch Daniels’s dark-horse presidential bid dead on arrival.” Here’s what he told the Weekly Standard per the profile Ed flagged yesterday:

Beyond the debt and the deficit, in Daniels’s telling, all other issues fade to comparative insignificance. He’s an agnostic on the science of global warming but says his views don’t matter. “I don’t know if the CO2 zealots are right,” he said. “But I don’t care, because we can’t afford to do what they want to do. Unless you want to go broke, in which case the world isn’t going to be any greener. Poor nations are never green.”

And then, he says, the next president, whoever he is, “would have to call a truce on the so-called social issues. We’re going to just have to agree to get along for a little while,” until the economic issues are resolved. Daniels is pro-life himself, and he gets high marks from conservative religious groups in his state. He serves as an elder at the Tabernacle Presbyterian Church, in inner-city Indianapolis, which he’s attended for 50 years.

John McCormack pressed him to elaborate on what he meant by a “truce” and Daniels couldn’t offer any specifics. (“Everybody just stands down for a little while, while we try to save the republic.”) Enter evangelical leader Tony Perkins to lower the boom:

“Not only is he noncommittal about his role as a pro-life leader, but the governor wouldn’t even agree to a modest step like banning taxpayer-funded promotion of abortion overseas — which [former] President Bush did on his first day in office with 65% of the country’s support. Let’s face it. These aren’t fringe issues that stretch moderate America. They’re mainstream ideals that an overwhelming majority of the nation espouses. I support the governor 100% on the call for fiscal responsibility, but nothing is more fiscally responsible than ending the taxpayer funding of abortion and abortion promotion. More than 70% of our nation agrees that killing innocent unborn children with federal dollars is wrong. Yet stopping government-funded murder isn’t a “genuine national emergency?” We cannot “save the republic,” in Gov. Daniels’ words, by killing the next generation. Regardless of what the establishment believes, fiscal and social conservatism have never been mutually exclusive. Without life, there is no pursuit of happiness. Thank goodness the Founding Fathers were not timid in their leadership; they understood that “truce” was nothing more than surrender.”

Other religious conservatives are piling on too: “Something like this will cost him any consideration from one of the key constituencies of the Republican Party,” says the president of the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute. Ramesh Ponnuru is right that Daniels is kidding himself if he thinks he can avoid these landmines as president — the first Supreme Court vacancy will thrust him right into the middle of it — and it’s amazingly tone-deaf for an aspiring nominee to propose a “truce” on abortion given how many pro-lifers equate it with murder. But even so, I’m sympathetic to his willingness to prioritize America’s entitlements crisis over everything else, even at the expense of alienating a core wing of the GOP. The hard lesson that Republicans seem to have to learn and re-learn is that, thanks to Roe, there’s not much a GOP president and Congress can do legislatively about abortion, in which case why not temporarily de-emphasize it as a political issue if it’ll buy crucial centrist votes needed to redress a fiscal emergency? (In fact, isn’t that an unstated assumption of the tea-party movement? “Yes, foreign policy and social issues are important, but economic stability is now Job One.”) Unless Daniels means that he’s willing to compromise on a pro-choice Supreme Court nominee, which would be pure political suicide, I’m not sure which social issue he’s supposed to be willing to go to the wall for even if it means detonating a potential political compromise with Democrats to reform social security and Medicare. If McConnell and Boehner come to President Daniels and say they’ve got the votes for a balanced-budget amendment but in return the Dems want the Defense of Marriage Amendment repealed, Daniels is supposed to tell them to hit the bricks?

Sounds to me like what he’s really saying is that we should accept the status quo, whatever it may be, on social issues until entitlements are back on the path to solvency. As for abortion, I suspect his way of squaring the circle will be to argue that, in fact, because fiscal solvency is priority one and because we need lots of young workers to support our federal Ponzi schemes, the moral argument for opposing abortion is actually a very sensible economic argument too. Exit question one: Is this guy done for, assuming he ever had a chance to begin with? Exit question two: He’s pretty much a textbook example of the sort of candidate who’d benefit from a California-style free-for-all primary, isn’t he?


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National Review has been talking up RINO Mitch Daniels just like they were talking up McCain.

Watch out for Daniels because the establishment is looking to him to save the Rockefeller wing Republicans if/when Myth Romney flames out.

1 posted on 08/10/2010 2:28:43 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

Social issues are a matter of character and are most definitely not off the table.


2 posted on 08/10/2010 2:31:34 PM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: GOPGuide

Not to mention he’s bald and about 5 foot 5.

Goodbye!


3 posted on 08/10/2010 2:32:42 PM PDT by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: GOPGuide

Dead is an understatement.


4 posted on 08/10/2010 2:32:58 PM PDT by livius
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To: GOPGuide

They want to deflect and dilute the Tea Party movement just as much as the left does.


5 posted on 08/10/2010 2:35:11 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: GOPGuide

I think Romney is already done. He will have a big problem shaking that whole Romneycare thingy.


6 posted on 08/10/2010 2:35:37 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

Right.

Daniels is the Rockefeller-Bush-Gerald Ford wing’s backup RINO.


7 posted on 08/10/2010 2:36:35 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide
(Daniels: SoCons are a Distraction)

Why bother? Over half the SoCons vote Democrat anyway.

8 posted on 08/10/2010 2:37:02 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: GOPGuide

A nation’s greatness and soundness are directly tied to its goodness in the sight of God.


9 posted on 08/10/2010 2:38:08 PM PDT by lurk
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To: GOPGuide

Daniels still denying a Congressional district in the state a special election?


10 posted on 08/10/2010 2:39:07 PM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: GOPGuide
I heard the same tripe over last weekend from a "GOP" legislative candidate. "I'm not taking a position on social issues," he said, "only the financial ones." Then one of his handlers stepped in and added, "Until the financial issues are taken care, of we aren't getting into these other issues." (such as homosexual marriage, "gay rights," abortion, etc., etc.

These RINO's think that taxes and deficits are the only issues that compel voters to support them. NOT!

11 posted on 08/10/2010 2:39:30 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: upsdriver

Yeah, this guy is a mealy-mouthed weasel. No thanks. We have had enough of those.

How can someone say they are pro-life but then see it as a secondary issue? People who are pro-life believe they are fighting murder. How can murder be set aside? People who believe that a fetus is not a baby are ridiculous, but they are not nearly as creepy as those who claim to be pro-life but say it would not affect how they vote or govern. “Yeah, I know it’s infanticide, but we shouldn’t make a big deal out of it.”


12 posted on 08/10/2010 2:39:33 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: jospehm20; GOPGuide

Whom should the republican presidential nominee be, in 2012? I think that Mike Huckabee, Dirk Kempthorne, and Haley Barbour will run.


13 posted on 08/10/2010 2:39:58 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: GOPGuide

At least he wouldnt be nominating Harriet Meiers to the Supreme Court.


14 posted on 08/10/2010 2:43:03 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: PhilCollins

Who the heck is Dirk Kempthorne?


15 posted on 08/10/2010 2:44:09 PM PDT by Politicalmom (A racist is a conservative who is winning an argument with a liberal.-FReeper Freespirited)
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To: GOPGuide

Exactly what conservative social issue is on the advance? Seems like people are just trying to sandbag the levies at the moment. Homosexual marriage is a CHANGE to 4000 years of history. Trying to hold onto what’s left isn’t exactly in your face aggression.


16 posted on 08/10/2010 2:45:14 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Nonstatist

No Daniels will probably put another Souter or John Paul Stevens on the Court, one of those justices who won’t get “distracted” by social issues.


17 posted on 08/10/2010 2:45:19 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: upsdriver
Daniels is correct. Social issues be damned for now. We have bigger fish to fry...like saving the country from fiscal ruin.

Its going to take some big ones to put the wheels back on the USA and getting stuck on the social issues will NOT do it this time around.

What good is character if you have no country left?

I don't know if Daniels is the guy. Does not really matter.

Unless we FIX the financial problems we have nothing.

If you are a “social issues” voter, you better learn what really matters for the here and now.

Hint:

It's not abortion or same sex marriage.

18 posted on 08/10/2010 2:47:14 PM PDT by photoguy
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To: GOPGuide

I think he would make a great budget director or some such in the Sarah Palin administration....


19 posted on 08/10/2010 2:48:12 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: PhilCollins

Whoever wins. I have no clue at this point who that may be. I liked Fred Thompson last time out, that shows how much I know.


20 posted on 08/10/2010 2:49:10 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: GOPGuide

Daniels simply has never looked at the issue of abortion, except as something insoluable politically. Much as Steven Douglas could never get his head around the issue of slavery. Men like Douglas could never understand that the war came about because too many Americans were in love with evil or indifferent to it, until it came around and bit them in the butt.


21 posted on 08/10/2010 2:50:16 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Politicalmom
Dirk Arthur Kempthorne (born October 29, 1951 in San Diego, California), was the U.S. Secretary of the Interior, who served under President George W. Bush from 2006–2009. A Republican, Kempthorne previously served as the 30th Governor and as a U.S. Senator from Idaho. He is reportedly exploring a bid for the Republican Presidential nomination in 2012.

link

22 posted on 08/10/2010 2:51:20 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: GOPGuide
No Daniels will probably put another Souter or John Paul Stevens on the Court, one of those justices who won’t get “distracted” by social issues.

In practice ,there probably isnt a more conservative governor out there right now.

I think his political tack here is a mistake, but for you to call him a Rockefeller Republican, you must be on drugs.

23 posted on 08/10/2010 2:52:29 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: photoguy

Evil deeds have real consequences. For instance, the fifty million dead babies if allowed to grow to maturity would be doing the jobs now filled by fifteen million immigrants, and most of them doing the jobs better.


24 posted on 08/10/2010 2:56:33 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: photoguy
"If you are a “social issues” voter, you better learn what really matters for the here and now."
Hint: It's not abortion or same sex marriage.

God will not be mocked - these issues may not matter to you, but they matter to God.
God will continue to remove His hand of protection from America as long as she keeps slaughtering babies and winking at the abomination of homosexual lewdness.
We will never regain our economic footing if we don't heed His warnings.

25 posted on 08/10/2010 2:59:22 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: photoguy

Daniels is not correct. We have a fiscal problem precisely because we have a severe morality problem. If we don’t take on both problems at the same time, we solve nothing.

Promise:

No candidate that supports either abortion or same sex marriage,etc will ever get my vote. I don’t care what else the person has to offer, they are unfit to serve.


26 posted on 08/10/2010 2:59:52 PM PDT by upsdriver (ret.)
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To: hoosiermama; Miss Marple; GOPGuide

I saw him on Fox News Sunday and FWIW, I wouldn’t take alipundit’s word for anything.

I don’t know enough about the governor to offer an informed opinion, but I’d sure like to hear what hoosiermama, Miss Marple and other residents of Indiana think about him.


27 posted on 08/10/2010 3:00:02 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Politicalmom

Dirk Kempthorne is a conservative who was a U.S. senator from Idaho, 1993-’99; governor of Idaho, 1999-’05; and U.S. Secretary of the Interior, 2005-’09.


28 posted on 08/10/2010 3:00:23 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Nonstatist

He is politically tone deaf if he think he can win the election without the energetic support of social conservatives. It was they would twice elected George Bush.


29 posted on 08/10/2010 3:00:24 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: GOPGuide

Sounds to me like what he’s really saying is that we should accept the status quo, whatever it may be, on social issues until entitlements are back on the path to solvency.

*********************

Sounds like the past five decades, at least.

SSDD


30 posted on 08/10/2010 3:01:02 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Green shoots? Those aren't green shoots! Those are mold spots!)
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To: GOPGuide

There will always be criticism of any decent candidate. It is FAR too soon to make a determination like your article tries to do.


31 posted on 08/10/2010 3:02:09 PM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: lurk

A nation’s greatness and soundness are directly tied to its goodness in the sight of God.

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Which is why we are presently tipping into the crucible.


32 posted on 08/10/2010 3:02:32 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Green shoots? Those aren't green shoots! Those are mold spots!)
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To: upsdriver

Agreed. The only way such a deal could possibly work would be for all laws and court rulings to be reversed until we get back to what they were in 2000. Then absolutely no movement in either direction until we solve the debt problem.

The left would never agree to such a deal. Their idea of a truce is just like the jihadists. It is an opportunity to re-arm and flank your enemy. Truce to them means surrender by us.


33 posted on 08/10/2010 3:02:43 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (If I weren't afraid of the feds, I would refer to Obama as our "undocumented POTUS")
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To: photoguy

You will not lead conservatives by telling them that you only support a portion of what they vote for and why they are conservatives.

Have you ever looked at who the conservative movement is?


34 posted on 08/10/2010 3:03:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: RobbyS
Much as Steven Douglas could never get his head around the issue of slavery

I wasn't aware that he ever tried.
(Or were you talking about Stephen Douglas ?)


35 posted on 08/10/2010 3:03:35 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Psalm 73
Who said God is being mocked?

We have a major problem that must be fixed if we want the country to survive.

To fix it will require focus and sacrifice from many. It will require a UNIFIED front.

If you continue to fracture the electorate on social issues we all lose.

Deal with the financial and we can then try and deal with the rest.

36 posted on 08/10/2010 3:04:14 PM PDT by photoguy
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To: photoguy

What good is character if you have no country left?

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What good is a country which is utterly corrupt?


37 posted on 08/10/2010 3:04:33 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Green shoots? Those aren't green shoots! Those are mold spots!)
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To: upsdriver

Well clearly thats your opinion, I just thiink it a failed position. Of course thats just my opinion.


38 posted on 08/10/2010 3:06:00 PM PDT by photoguy
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To: Nonstatist

I’ve met the man several times, shook his hand and talked to him. (In fact when he came to speak to our county’s Lincoln Day dinner I had to quick build him a small platform to set behind the podium for him to stand on, but if you vote on his height you should be too stupid to cast a vote anyway.) All I can say is I will campaign for him, donate to him and vote for him if he decides to run. People here who post this nonsense about him really need to see what he has done for this state and what he really stands for before they spout off on him.

No one will be the perfect candidate that is accepted by all here, but put him on the ticket and Sarah as the VP again and it will be our best chance to save this nation financially of all the candidates I have heard are looking to run now IMHO.


39 posted on 08/10/2010 3:06:08 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Psalm 144

So you prefer no country then?


40 posted on 08/10/2010 3:07:01 PM PDT by photoguy
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To: Abathar

A man that is only 1/3rd or 2/3rds conservative, is no conservative.


41 posted on 08/10/2010 3:08:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: RobbyS
Social conservatives will not be who elects the next president.

It will be the middle of the roaders....

You lose them you lose.

42 posted on 08/10/2010 3:08:57 PM PDT by photoguy
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To: meadsjn
"Why bother? Over half the SoCons vote Democrat anyway. "

I don't know if it's over half, but it a very large portion.

Social Conservatives do not put their allegiance to party and often vote on a single issues, or group of issues.

Then again, it matters a lot as to what are considered "Socila Issues". Many would lump together guns, illegals, abortion, gays etc. into that category.

Some anti-religious bigots really just mean "religious issues", gays and abortion.

Though I believe many conservatives would like the pot to be a little bigger and include them all.

43 posted on 08/10/2010 3:10:33 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: upsdriver
"No candidate that supports either abortion or same sex marriage,etc will ever get my vote. I don’t care what else the person has to offer, they are unfit to serve."

I believe you are missing the point he was trying to make. He is neither pro gay or pro abortion, he will simply concentrate on the economy first as a priority and not push for an agenda that centers on those issues. He is not saying he is a lefty on those, but that he sees on the horizon a sh*tstorm coming that takes priority over everything else now.

44 posted on 08/10/2010 3:10:37 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: onyx
I don’t know enough about the governor to offer an informed opinion, but I’d sure like to hear what hoosiermama, Miss Marple and other residents of Indiana think about him.

He avoids social conservatism like the plague.

45 posted on 08/10/2010 3:11:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: GOPGuide

No more RINOs and no more pretenders.


46 posted on 08/10/2010 3:11:07 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: GOPGuide
Daniels is right. Social issues are issues for society -- hence the name -- not for the state.

The underlying problem is that some "conservatives" don't want to lead people to virtue by persuasion and example (that's too much like work), and so they want the gummint to do it for them. This is no different, really, than a bum wanting the gummint to support him instead of getting off his butt and working for a living.

47 posted on 08/10/2010 3:12:21 PM PDT by detritus
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To: Abathar
No one will be the perfect candidate that is accepted by all here

IMO he has the experience and sufficient steel in his spine to do the right thing regarding fiscal discipline, and , for what little the head of governemnt can do, will do the right thing on social issues ( ie on abortion funding he will sign a bill put before him)

We are so effed up right now, we need a Christie -type of administrator, and not a sanctimonious Huckabee type who will buckle on government austerity while giving useless and maudlin speeches.

48 posted on 08/10/2010 3:14:31 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: GOPGuide
I don’t know if the CO2 zealots are right,” he said.

Then step aside for those less stupid than yourself who do know, idiot.

His platform is basically "I don't know, and I don't care!"

That will make a super T-shirt.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

49 posted on 08/10/2010 3:15:30 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: onyx

Met the man several times, heard him speak and as a business owner watched closely what he has done to this state in terms of keeping it in the black while others have sank. He is not the perfect candidate, no one man can be here, but he is the best by far throwing his hat in the ring right now IMHO.

(Also he really likes Sarah Palin as well, he was asked about her when I was standing there and you could just tell he lit up and gave a genuine smile when she was mentioned)


50 posted on 08/10/2010 3:15:42 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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