Posted on 08/10/2010 2:28:39 PM PDT by GOPGuide
Let us see them win the election without social conservatives.
But this was a stupid remark. There is no possibility of a truce, and right now the Democratic party is unapologetically pro-choice about pro-gay. Obama’s views are precisely those of Sarah Weddington: The woman’s right to kill her child is
absolute, in the womb or out.
and we all know that "middle of the roaders" want sex in kindergarten and free abortions to middle schoolers
Daniels has just lost credibility. While the debt and spending are the most important issues, social issues cannot be dismissed.
He's very knowledgeable, no doubt about that and I thought he came across honest and sincere. He was quick with his answers and I loved his comment (paraphrasing) “you'd be surprised at how much government, you never miss.”
It's nice to know that he likes Sarah. I'll wager she admires him. I guess they know one another as governors.
What was the context? Is he anti-life, pro-gay?
The answer is NO. Daniels is a very good man who has very traditional values.
Maybe he was making a larger point which is being twisted out of all recognition?
One very fat point IN FAVOR of Daniels is that he is a huge BUDGET HAWK. Not saying he should be President yet, necessarily, but his skills are very badly needed in DC.
Really? That's a damn joke. The GOP has been doing that for over 40 years. How's that working out? Graham, McCain, Daniels and all the other namby pamby golden calf worshipers are part and parcel of why we are where we are today. These go along to get along types are the main reason we are staring into the abyss. If these guys are conservatives I hate to think what liberal means.
The GOP compromises and or backs away completely on social issues and the Left crams it down our throats. Not to mention much of the financial debacle is directly related to social issues and the associated sending and/or programs which the right caves on all the time.
If they have no stomach or backbone for the fight to preserve both our nation and culture they need to move the hell out of the way.
I agree with you. He is top notch in a fiscal sense, but he messes up here.
so killing a third of my generation has absolutely zero fiscal consequences? Think again. Fix the social issues and the fiscal issues will sort themselves out.
There are long-term structural problems with the economy that tax cutting alone are not going to fix.
Hint:
It's not abortion or same sex marriage.
Wrong answer. Social issues are important, and most of us are intelligent enough to understand that we can deal with both at the same time.
People who are untrustworthy on social issues also tend to be untrustworthy on fiscal issues, as well. This nonsense that we "have to focus on fiscal issues" and ignore social issues is just cover fire for RINOs. No thanks. Anyone not smart enough to realise that abortion and gay marriage are just as important to the future of this country as debts and deficit are is someone who is obviously too stupid to have anything good to contribute to the political process.
Lets see them win without the middle...never gonna happen.
What good is a country without character?
Abortion isn’t the issue, character is. I want to know what makes up a candidate inside them. If they haven’t a problem with killing an unborn baby, that is a character flaw I am unwilling to look past.
Daniels can focus on economic issues and that would be great. If he is afraid to take a stand on moral issues, he has a problem because the Democrats and the media aren’t going to let him off the hook. When they badger him on abortion as they do all Republican candidates, what is he going to say? Daniels had better be prepared and his answers better be heartfelt because I and others will be watching.
BTW, social conservatives are economic conservatives. It is the economy only conservatives who are the problem. They are the ones willing to sell their soul for a buck.
No they won’t.
As long as you make the social issues your voting plank, you will continue to lose.
The middle are mindless dolts. Flashy commercials and a good ten second soundbite is all that’s needed to land them.
“What good is a country without character?”
So I guess we wait and see. Clearly we don’t agree.
I’ll take the COUNTRY first.
Well said!
They aren’t two issues.
Abortion has severe fiscal long term consequences. Abortion has been legal since 1973, which means that the generation that is now 37 or younger will be smaller than the preceding generations.
This has severe consequences for the tax base in the next 15 years, and beyond, which will persist so long as abortion is legal.
Don’t get me wrong, many of the fiscal problems can be solved by cutting spending, but unless abortion is banned, you won’t get rid of the overall structural problems.
The middle choses, thats the fact. If you are correct (and I don’t think you are)you had better hope its your soundbites that sway them because if they don’t you go down in flames. Can you say Obama for 8?
Reality sucks but that’s reality.
No, fiscal conservatives have a moral compass too. They just understand the battle and what must be won FIRST.
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