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Muslim leaders to abandon plans for Ground Zero community center (Disputed)
Haaretz.com ^ | 8/16/10 | Shlomo Shamir

Posted on 08/16/2010 1:11:51 PM PDT by Bokababe

After weeks of heated debate over plans for an Islamic community center near Ground Zero - the site of the 9/11 attacks on New York - it seems Muslim leaders will soon back down, agreeing to move to a new site. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


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To: Bokababe

I am not discrediting the story....but NEVER trust a Muslim when they back off on something that offends non-Muslims.

Their Islamic Terrorist Hall of Fame is still in the works near Ground Zero....never trust the Muslims.

These are the same people that claimed they had peace with Israel....numerous times....only to attack later


51 posted on 08/16/2010 1:29:09 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com. You either voting for JD, or voting for the Liberal...)
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To: Bokababe

community center?

What about the mosque?


52 posted on 08/16/2010 1:29:14 PM PDT by donna ( I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth. - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: paulycy

“Even if this story turns out to be true you can bet that they will find an angle to further their own agenda. They won’t simply cave. Not a bit.”

Precisely.


53 posted on 08/16/2010 1:29:56 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Am I dreaming?


54 posted on 08/16/2010 1:29:56 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But several people familiar with the debate among New York's Islamic activists now claim that the leaders are convinced abandoning the site is preferable to unleashing a wave of bitterness towards Muslims

It doesn't matter where they build the next mosque, I still hate Islam. It's a totalitarian political system disguised as a religion. Get out of my country!

55 posted on 08/16/2010 1:31:03 PM PDT by Falcon28 (Allen West - 2012)
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To: McGruff; nhwingut
Vanity: Google Maps shows plenty of "NYC Mosques" (for "religious freedom")
56 posted on 08/16/2010 1:31:29 PM PDT by EdReform (Stop Obamacare - Join the Obamacare Class Action Suit: www.obamacareclassaction.com)
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To: paulycy
Yeah, this smells. I don't buy it either.

I do, the dems and obowma are getting beat like red hair step children with this issue. It's not over, but they are certainly trying to get this off the news cycle.....

57 posted on 08/16/2010 1:32:07 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Bokababe

Did they hear there’d be a strip club next door if they built it? That’d get ‘em.


58 posted on 08/16/2010 1:32:13 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Bokababe
And they'll stop abusing women.
And they'll stop indoctrinating children with their book of hate.
And they'll stop lopping off the heads of those who do not practice their form of religion.
And they'll stop killing Jews.
And they'll bathe.
etc...
59 posted on 08/16/2010 1:32:19 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: Bokababe
Muslims and Democrats are freak shows. My favorite quote from the article.

They also hope the move will be seen as a show of sensitivity to families of the victims of the 9/11 attacks, and to the American public generally.

I love how Muslims and Democrats think that its OK to cut our throats, throw salt in the wound, and then attempt to wash the salt out of the wound and say "Aren't we all better now? We just want peace."
60 posted on 08/16/2010 1:32:40 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: McGruff
So why they need another one 2 blocks away?

They want one on every block in America. Kinda like they're doing in the UK. Islam must be purged.

61 posted on 08/16/2010 1:32:55 PM PDT by Falcon28 (Allen West - 2012)
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To: b4its2late
"Am I dreaming?"

I asked myself the same question. But when I saw it on Haaretz -- which is the paper of the Liberal Israeli politicos -- I figured that they must have a better in on what's going on in Liberal NY than the rest of us.

62 posted on 08/16/2010 1:33:17 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Gibbs “attacks” liberals in order to triangulate.

Obama praises Islam, Islamic world cheers that he’s in their corner.

Will they now triangulate, knowing they’ve got something far more valuable than even the mosque could be?


63 posted on 08/16/2010 1:33:31 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. --Chinatown, written by Robert Towne)
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To: Bokababe

From National Review Tweet Tracker:

maghabe123

1. Developer of mosque denies project is moving... about 1 hour ago via web

2. Ha’aretz also doesn’t describe or identify source other than as “in New York”.... about 1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

3. Ha’aretz reports GZ mosque is moving..... http://myloc.me/aFDkd about 1 hour ago via UberTwitter


64 posted on 08/16/2010 1:34:39 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: McGruff

There’s actually one closer. Only two blocks from the proposed site. I also heard that no parades are allowed to pass by a Mosque. I wonder if this is why the Macy’s Parade had to change their route?


65 posted on 08/16/2010 1:35:26 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Bokababe

I hope this is true.

I’m assuming they backed off because they didn’t want to hurt their agent in the White House.


66 posted on 08/16/2010 1:35:57 PM PDT by tiki
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To: ReformedBeckite
Islamic Concept of Al-Taqiyah to infiltrate and destroy kafir countries
67 posted on 08/16/2010 1:36:24 PM PDT by EdReform (Stop Obamacare - Join the Obamacare Class Action Suit: www.obamacareclassaction.com)
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To: ScreamingFist

They are running away to live and fight another day.

It will be very interesting to see what, if anything, comes of this news item.


68 posted on 08/16/2010 1:38:29 PM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: McGruff

Rush knows exactly why, the other mosque can’t be claimed as a victory mosque to raise the spirits of our enemies.


69 posted on 08/16/2010 1:39:21 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (In the White House the mighty White House the Liar sleeps tonight.............)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I’m assuming they backed off because of the clear and present political repercussions. These Imams play chess with religion so to speak, and sometimes you gotta take a few lumps. I don’t trust them.


70 posted on 08/16/2010 1:39:59 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: ExpatCanuck

“If true, someone in the Whitehouse must have called them and asked them to “please, pretty please, back off for the time being”, to take pressure off of Zero”

FOIA the phone records.


71 posted on 08/16/2010 1:40:44 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Bokababe

Good.

I’m sure there is an abandoned hog factory somewhere where they can build their mosque.


72 posted on 08/16/2010 1:41:18 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
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To: Argus
Until after November

With political trends moving as they are, how is this a smart bet?

73 posted on 08/16/2010 1:41:37 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: pennyfarmer
They also hope the move will be seen as a show of sensitivity to families of the victims of the 9/11 attacks, and to the American public generally.

Oh really?

How do they explain, then, the fact that groundbreaking for their mosque was to occur on Sept. 11th then?


74 posted on 08/16/2010 1:43:35 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
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To: Bokababe

I hope so!!! This muslim “community center” was going to be dedicated on the 10 year anniversary of 9/11/2011. This should not be allowed to happen.

For the record, I also wouldn’t approve of a Japanese Shinto shrine next to Pearl Harbor to be dedicated on 12/7/2011, or an American “community center” at ground zero in Hiroshima.


75 posted on 08/16/2010 1:45:42 PM PDT by AngieGal
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To: Bokababe

This isn’t going to change anything. Everybody’s on the record now.

Obama should have put the arm to these guys and got them to back off. He wouldn’t/couldn’t, so now all that’s left is Obama telling all of the 9/11 victims what racists they all are by not climbing on board the tolerance bandwagon.


76 posted on 08/16/2010 1:46:31 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: domenad

I won’t believe it until I see a Starbucks there.
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^^^^THIS^^^^^


77 posted on 08/16/2010 1:48:19 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: domenad

no future site is named. It will be after the next attack. /s


78 posted on 08/16/2010 1:48:33 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Argue from the Constitution: Initialpoints.net1)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I don’t believe it.

Nor do I.

79 posted on 08/16/2010 1:48:43 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (islam is as islam does: http://blockthemosque.com/)
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To: Bokababe

I hope it’s true, but I’ll believe it when I see them seek a permit for a different location.

Did anyone else notice the timing here? Full bore “We’re here to build bridges, you islam hating infidel bastards” until the moment Zero steps in it, then all of a sudden they back out. Hmmmm...


80 posted on 08/16/2010 1:49:05 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Bokababe
"Another factor in the apparent climbdown is a lack of funds to pay for construction of the center, estimated to cost a hundred million dollars. Backers hope moving it will lead to a wave of support, accompanied by cash donations."
81 posted on 08/16/2010 1:49:25 PM PDT by NoLibZone (If we could remove bad representatives through voting, voting would have been made illegal by now.)
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To: Bokababe
If this is true -- and it seems to be nothing more than a rumor so far -- it may be that the project was too controversial for Hamas, but perfectly OK with Obama. Think about that for a second.
82 posted on 08/16/2010 1:51:43 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

I’m skeptical, too...but keep in mind that Obama wasn’t in a heap of trouble when Patterson made his offer.


83 posted on 08/16/2010 1:51:54 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Bokababe

Just heard on the radio that Harry Reid is against the mosque.

Polls must be tightening!


84 posted on 08/16/2010 1:52:06 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: Bokababe
Even if this is true, it changes nothing because Obama has taken the side of Islam and Islamic terrorists rather than America over building the 9/11 VICTORY Mosque.

On Friday he told the Muslims he had gathered in the PEOPLES house, along with the entire world which side he is really on in the war on terror = America or Islam. He made his choice and sided with Islam over America and told us all that he approves of the MUSLIM 9/11 VICTORY Mosque, that He DOES NOT OBJECT TO IT and that he wants it built at the site of Islam's victory over America. HIS ADMINISTRATION, HIS STATE DEPARTMENT is spending OUR TAXPAYER MONEY TO SEND THE IMAM WHO IS HELL-BENT ON BUILDING THIS MONSTROSITY ALL OVER THE

I S L A M I C WORLD

TO RAISE MONEY TO BUILD THE 9/11 VICTORY MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO IN ORDER TO HUMILIATE ALL OF AMERICA! (The Imam is still there, rasing money! He will NOW just use it for SOME OTHER ANTI-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES.)

The words Obama said on Friday in support of this abomination he agreed to and proclaimed before all of those assembled and before the entire world OF HIS OWN FREE WILL.

Obama is nothing but a liar following Satan, the Father of lies! He is not to be trusted, he is to be opposed and no matter what the "White House" says, we must all remember that according to taqqiya it is completely "kosher" in Islam for Muslims to LIE in order to deceive those who do not follow Islam = i.e., the "infidels", in order to gain your ultimate ends of conquest and total subjugation. That is exactly what Obama the closet Marxist Muslim is doing = lying in order to deceive America and Americans.

The problem is this; with his statement on Friday Obama COMPLETELY and PERMANENTLY BROKE FAITH WITH THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA! He once and for all told America and the World exactly which side he is on: He supports Islam and the enemies of the United States both at home and abroad. We have him speaking these words, on video. He can lie and obfuscate and try to "backpedal" all he wants, but it is too late, HE CAN NOT UNDO WHAT HE HAS SAID AND DONE:

Obama didn't just "spit it the eye of America;" he pulled down his pants in front of the entire country and world, squatted on the hallowed 9/11/01 Ground Zero site and took a huge PUBLIC DUMP UPON GROUND ZERO AND UPON ALL OF AMERICA! After he was done, he got up, pulled up his pants, smiled, his narcissistic smile at the camera and said: "This is where I stand regarding America, Islam and Ground Zero."

Obama is Satan's servant = totally anti-American, anti-Semitic and filled with the spirit of antichrist.

85 posted on 08/16/2010 1:52:50 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Heavenly Father, deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Bokababe

It says “it seems Muslim leaders will soon back down.”

Seems. I wouldn’t call that news at all.


86 posted on 08/16/2010 1:53:38 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: mojitojoe

No doubt Obama orchestrated this. I wonder what this will wind up costing American in the next couple of years.


87 posted on 08/16/2010 1:53:56 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Bokababe

Did Omoslem promise them Fort Hood?


88 posted on 08/16/2010 1:55:56 PM PDT by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: EdReform

Literally “the cap,” it’s an Islamic concept in which a believer is allowed to pretend to be an infidel if it will serve the cause of advancing Isalm or help him avoid persecution. The person who put that keyword in was probably referring to Obama.


89 posted on 08/16/2010 1:57:56 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: All

@Park51: There is no truth to the Haaretz story. It is wholly incorrect. We will be publishing a press release regarding this shortly.

Park 51 is the Twitter name for the Cordoba Project


90 posted on 08/16/2010 1:58:02 PM PDT by aphid (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: EdReform

Literally “the cap,” it’s an Islamic concept in which a believer is allowed to pretend to be an infidel if it will serve the cause of advancing Islam or help him avoid persecution. The person who put that keyword in was probably referring to Obama.


91 posted on 08/16/2010 1:58:11 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Omoslem got the weekend poll results on this.

It’s only Monday. That must’ve been some serious fury by REAL Americans. Against that scum-sucking dirty moslem traitor commie and his merry band of koranimals.


92 posted on 08/16/2010 1:58:34 PM PDT by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: aphid

FReepers are smart.


93 posted on 08/16/2010 2:00:18 PM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: ReformedBeckite

Yes, it’s true. You’re even allowed to pretend to be an infidel if it will advance Islam or save you from major persecution.


94 posted on 08/16/2010 2:01:18 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Bokababe

... Backers hope moving it will lead to a wave of support, accompanied by cash donations.


Shekels ok?

95 posted on 08/16/2010 2:02:00 PM PDT by EdReform (Stop Obamacare - Join the Obamacare Class Action Suit: www.obamacareclassaction.com)
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To: Bokababe

Another trophy for mounting in Palin’s den?


96 posted on 08/16/2010 2:03:52 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: nmh

“Who is Shlomo Shamir?”

Pap Shamir’s brother?


97 posted on 08/16/2010 2:03:56 PM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: Bokababe

Sounds like a ruse.
I would trust the Muslims about as much as the Nigerian prince who needs to move his $20 million with my help.
Maybe they are looking for a closer place to Ground Zero, just to be more in-your-face...


98 posted on 08/16/2010 2:04:32 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: AngieGal

Ooh, hadn’t thought of that Hiroshima example! Talk about hitting the libs where they live!

Or how about this one: A U.S. Cavalry museum at Wounded Knee. You know, to build bridges.


99 posted on 08/16/2010 2:06:34 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Bokababe

Nitpicking here, but it says “community center”, not “Mosque at ground zero”.

Wondering if they are still going to build a mosque.


100 posted on 08/16/2010 2:08:00 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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