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To: detritus

Joe Scarborough is a Patriot. Standing up for your Constitution is everyone’s duty.

Getting ahead of angry mob and spreading fear and adding fuel to the fire require no courage or skill.

Of all the things, people have lost their minds to the point that now we are ready to throw away Bill of Rights? Wake up people.

Newt has chosen to serve Elites. He won’t come and bail you out of Fema-Camp someday, if you go along and give up Bill of Rights.


13 posted on 08/17/2010 2:28:31 PM PDT by True_Kon
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To: True_Kon; Travis McGee

Welcoming Moon Rock Female Enslavement Islam into America with open arms ain’t PATRIOTISM hoss.

Maybe you took a wrong turn when u registered on this austere forum.


17 posted on 08/17/2010 2:33:00 PM PDT by wardaddy (effed up times..)
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To: True_Kon

Welcome to FR nOOb. Joe is a self agrandizing idiot who take a paycheck from GE, a company who took bailout money for banks.

He is not exactly approaching issues without an external influence.

There is no Constitional issue here. No one is denying them their right.

We are asking for politeness, out respect for continued grievance.

There probably isn’t anything we can legally do to stop this monstrosity from being built.

BTW, Joe took Newt’s statement so far out of context it is just unbelievable!

In a post-Shirley Sherrod world, shouldn’t commentators be careful about expressing an opinion about excerpted comments? Isn’t this especially true for a so-called conservative reading excerpts printed in the New York Times?

For instance, Gingrich said the following on “Fox & Friends” this Monday morning providing a little more context to these twelve words:

GINGRICH: This happens all the time in America. Nazis don’t have the right to put up a sign next to the Holocaust Museum in Washington. We would never accept the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor. There’s no reason for us to accept a mosque next to the World Trade Center.

Much less offensive in that context, correct?

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/08/16/joe-scarborough-bashes-newt-gingrichs-position-ground-zero-mosque#ixzz0wtu27su6


19 posted on 08/17/2010 2:34:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: True_Kon
Since no one has even thought of challenging any constitutional right in this matter your alarm about it indicates you have sucked down Obama's red herring whole. Please educate yourself on the varieties of leftwing mendacity before embarrassing yourself again.
21 posted on 08/17/2010 2:37:05 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: True_Kon
Don't be silly. The religious freedom clause is in the very same amendment as the free speech clause.

You just want people to roll over and shut about this, but respect for the Constitution includes you standing still while we get up in your face and scream at you about how sinful you are ~ whether you like it or not.

23 posted on 08/17/2010 2:39:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: True_Kon
Joe Scab--Whatta guy! Just ask Lori Klausutis (Oh, sorry, she's dead.)

The strange death of Lori Klausutis received only a few short stories in the Northern Florida press; and the Washington Post printed only 44 words in a Nation-in-brief report dealing with the covered up and mysterious death of a female staffer in a Republican congressman's district office--a story that shocked us after hearing about it from federal agents because the revelation was kept from the public. The 44 words released were: "FORT WALTON BEACH, FL--Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old office worker for Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-FL), was found dead in the congressman's district office. Police said preliminary findings from the medical examiner's office showed no foul play or any outward indication of suicide." Curiously, Klausutis was reportedly active in Florida's Bush v. Gore 2000 election recount activity--raising questions about what she knew; and on Friday, July 20th, 2001, her body was found slumped next to a desk on the floor of Scarborough's Fort Walton Beach office where Lori served as a constituent services coordinator since May, 1999.

Klausutis was found around 8:00 a.m. on Friday morning by a couple arriving for an appointment, and she had been dead for some time as the police cordoned off the office for an investigation; but they later announced that there was no reason to suspect foul play, nor were there signs of suicide--but national news outlets commenced a total television blackout.

Scarborough had recently resigned from Congress--prematurely and unexpectedly--on the heels of reported rumors about his marital fidelity and shortly after his marriage ended in divorce.

24 posted on 08/17/2010 2:40:03 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama on The View: "When those folks came over on 9-11". Folks??? WTH?)
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To: True_Kon

Hi-ho, Newbie!
You can now count yourself among that .0005 % of FReepers who think Joe Scarborough is just a fine and dandy Conservative Patriot.


26 posted on 08/17/2010 2:40:49 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Every election is like an advance auction sale of stolen goods"--H.L.Mencken)
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To: True_Kon
Agreed, thousands of years of human history finally culminated in the Constitution of the United States. It bothers me to see politicians playing with the First Amendment. The religious freedoms are a thing that binds the Maccabees to the Pilgrims and excludes the very people who attacked the World Trade Center.

We have a lot of very shallow politicians.

28 posted on 08/17/2010 2:41:30 PM PDT by Bogie
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To: True_Kon
Joe Scarborough is a Patriot. Standing up for your Constitution is everyone’s duty. Getting ahead of angry mob and spreading fear and adding fuel to the fire require no courage or skill. Of all the things, people have lost their minds to the point that now we are ready to throw away Bill of Rights? Wake up people. Newt has chosen to serve Elites. He won’t come and bail you out of Fema-Camp someday, if you go along and give up Bill of Rights.

Oh, please. Spare us the First Amendment lecture. No one is stopping Muslims from worshiping or building a mosque, but we are opposed to having it built so close to what, for most Americans, is considered hallowed ground. Opponents have made it crystal clear that the Muslims have a legal right to build their mosque but are engaging in a provocative act by placing it so close to 'Ground Zero'.

Joe Scarborough is a shill for the left masquerading as a 'conservative' on the most liberal network on television. I won't question his innate patriotism but I will question his judgment and his integrity. That you support his misguided attack on perfectly reasonable comments by Newt Gingrich taken out of context in a very liberal, anti-conservative newspaper, the New York Times, makes me wonder why you are even here on FR. Trolling, perhaps?

29 posted on 08/17/2010 2:41:35 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: True_Kon

Scarborough made some excellent points this morning — once the camel’s nose is under the tent, maybe next time it’ll be an Evangelical church told it can’t build in San Francisco because the locals are “offended”.


41 posted on 08/17/2010 2:57:22 PM PDT by detritus
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To: True_Kon

What’s wrong with what Newt said?

“This happens all the time in America. Nazis don’t have the right to put up a sign next to the Holocaust Museum in Washington. We would never accept the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor. There’s no reason for us to accept a mosque next to the World Trade Center.”

Not a damn thing wrong with this statement.


46 posted on 08/17/2010 3:11:33 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: True_Kon
"Standing up for your Constitution is everyone’s duty."

I think most of us realize the constitutional issue here. The matter really falls upon propriety and sensitivity. This is absolutely designed as an "in-your-face" move to build this center. We don't necessarily have to ignore the Constitution to work to keep it from being built. While most people can agree that they have a right to build it, we also have a right to oppose it. This can be done in many ways. Construction projects are delayed every day in cities and states by red tape, palm greasing, and zoning disagreements. Look at the ground zero project itself. How many years is it going to take before that thing is finished?

If anything, we should be roadblocking the hell out of this until the project either gets too expensive, or they get bored and move on to somewhere else. It happens all the time on innocent projects, and it could happen here as well if we had politicians with stones. And it could all be done while staying within the Constitution.

49 posted on 08/17/2010 3:13:15 PM PDT by Magnatron
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