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What's In a Name? (Vanity)
Vanity | 8/17/10 | Friend

Posted on 08/18/2010 1:18:24 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui

Satan was known to the ancient Hebrews as "Lightening from Heaven" which later evolved into "Lucifer" or "Light Bearer". Lightening (falling from) Heavens"!? In the New Testament Jesus said it in Luke- I beheld Satan as lightening from heaven, or falling from heaven.

How do those words sound in Hebrew?

> From Strong's Hebrew Dictionary, word number 1299 a primitive root word: lightening, cast forth, falling

BARAQ pronounced BAW-RAWK

And word number 1300, BARAQ, means lightening.

Satan has fallen from the heights or Heavens. The Hebrew word used for heights or heavens is Strong's Hebrew Word 1116. BAM MAH. to be high, heights, heavens.

It is pronounced: BAM-MAW.

The Hebrew U or O, is a conjunction to join words together. So to join in Hebrew the concept of lightening "falling from" heaven or the heights, BARAQ O BAM MAH would mean Lightening from Heaven.

So, if spoken by a Jew back then, "I beheld Satan" would have been- "Baraq O Bammah".


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1 posted on 08/18/2010 1:18:24 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

True?


2 posted on 08/18/2010 1:21:06 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
Nah...it's just a coincidence. {;^)
3 posted on 08/18/2010 1:21:44 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

I have gotten this in email form a few times but assumed it was a fabrication. Is there any truth to this? If so, quite compelling.


4 posted on 08/18/2010 1:25:22 PM PDT by camerongood210
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To: To Hell With Poverty

Bump for later. Wigging me out.


5 posted on 08/18/2010 1:26:51 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
What's in a name indeed!
yollopoliuhqui: loco, demente
You're crazy!
6 posted on 08/18/2010 1:29:42 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: This I Wonder32460

I just downloaded Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary as a pdf and sure enough it’s there.


7 posted on 08/18/2010 1:35:03 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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To: camerongood210
Is there any truth to this?
Strong's Concordance
1299...baraq baw-rak' a primitive root; to lighten (lightning):--cast forth.
1116... bamah bam-maw' from an unused root (meaning to be high); an elevation:--height, high place, wave.
8 posted on 08/18/2010 1:35:10 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

I was able to use an online ancient Hebrew translator, and indeed, baraq is lightening. There was no results for bammah or o. Could all be true.


9 posted on 08/18/2010 1:36:08 PM PDT by paintriot
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Is the word you use “lightening” misspelled?
Do you mean to use the word “lightning”.
The “e” makes a big difference...


10 posted on 08/18/2010 1:36:43 PM PDT by etcetera ("Jihad Is Compulsory." Mohammed)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Verse 6 contains “baraq” or lightning:

Psalm 144:1-11 (King James Version)

1 Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

2 My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer ; my shield, and he in whom I trust ; who subdueth my people under me.

3 LORD, what is man, that thou takest knowledge of him! or the son of man, that thou makest account of him!

4 Man is like to vanity: his days are as a shadow that passeth away .

5 Bow thy heavens, O LORD, and come down : touch the mountains, and they shall smoke .

6 Cast forth lightning, and scatter them: shoot out thine arrows, and destroy them.

7 Send thine hand from above; rid me, and deliver me out of great waters, from the hand of strange children;

8 Whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood.

9 I will sing a new song unto thee, O God: upon a psaltery and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee.

10 It is he that giveth salvation unto kings: who delivereth David his servant from the hurtful sword.

11 Rid me, and deliver me from the hand of strange children, whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood:

Verse 29 has bammah

Ezekiel 20:24-34

24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers’ idols.

25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live ;

26 And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate , to the end that they might know that I am the LORD.

27 Therefore, son of man, speak unto the house of Israel, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Yet in this your fathers have blasphemed me, in that they have committed a trespass against me.

28 For when I had brought them into the land, for the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to them, then they saw every high hill, and all the thick trees, and they offered there their sacrifices, and there they presented the provocation of their offering: there also they made their sweet savour, and poured out there their drink offerings.

29 Then I said unto them, What is the high place whereunto ye go ? And the name thereof is called Bamah unto this day.
30 Wherefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Are ye polluted after the manner of your fathers? and commit ye whoredom after their abominations?

31 For when ye offer your gifts, when ye make your sons to pass through the fire, ye pollute yourselves with all your idols, even unto this day: and shall I be enquired of by you, O house of Israel? As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will not be enquired of by you.

32 And that which cometh into your mind shall not be at all, that ye say , We will be as the heathen, as the families of the countries, to serve wood and stone.

33 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out , will I rule over you:

34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered , with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out .


11 posted on 08/18/2010 1:38:13 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: paintriot

oops. lightning.


12 posted on 08/18/2010 1:38:47 PM PDT by paintriot
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Perhaps there is no birth certificate?


13 posted on 08/18/2010 1:40:45 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: etcetera
1300 baraq baw-rawk' from 1299; lightning; by analogy, a gleam; concretely, a flashing sword:--bright, glitter(-ing sword), lightning.
See reply 8.
14 posted on 08/18/2010 1:40:51 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Now you tell me!


15 posted on 08/18/2010 1:41:13 PM PDT by DCmarcher-976453 (SARAH PALIN 2012)
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To: Quix

Ping to quix...and I know this has been ‘around’ the FR ‘block’ before, but it never ceases to amaze (mey how the pieces come together.


16 posted on 08/18/2010 1:53:59 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( (((((((((((((((((((PALIN/BACHMANN 2012))))))))))))))))))))
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To: To Hell With Poverty
It must be black magic.

You know, like they found some guy whose astrological signs were all in the right places so they groomed him from childhood to think and be certain things and then to make sure he'd be the perfect vessel for their most powerful demon, they named him that in a secret ceremony in some Egyptian crypt . . .

OMG . . . just creeped myself out . . .

17 posted on 08/18/2010 2:01:17 PM PDT by tisket (If someone yells "You Lie" in a room full of politicians, how do they know who he's talking to?)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

>>So, if spoken by a Jew back then, “I beheld Satan” would have been- “Baraq O Bammah”.

No - “lightning from heaven.” As in, “I beheld Satan as baraq o bammah.”


18 posted on 08/18/2010 2:06:10 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: philman_36

It would seem then that Baraq Obama means someone with a light complexion who likes to get high.


19 posted on 08/18/2010 2:41:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Interesting, alright . . . . to a point.

Certainly sobering.


20 posted on 08/18/2010 3:21:45 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui; This I Wonder32460; philman_36; camerongood210; To Hell With Poverty; paintriot; ...

The name “Barack” is NOT from “B-R-Q,” “lightning,” but rather from “B-R-K,” “bless.” Two entirely different words in the Hebrew, the last consonant is different.


21 posted on 08/18/2010 3:28:03 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (M.Div., S.T.M., Ph.D. candidate in Biblical Studies)
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To: Charles Henrickson

THX THX.


22 posted on 08/18/2010 3:33:13 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Charles Henrickson; Yollopoliuhqui; This I Wonder32460; philman_36; camerongood210; ...
The name “Barack” is NOT from “B-R-Q,” “lightning,” but rather from “B-R-K,” “bless.” Two entirely different words in the Hebrew, the last consonant is different.

1288 barak baw-rak' a primitive root; to kneel; by implication to bless God (as an act of adoration), and (vice-versa) man (as a benefit); also (by euphemism) to curse (God or the king, as treason):--X abundantly, X altogether, X at all, blaspheme, bless, congratulate, curse, X greatly, X indeed, kneel (down), praise, salute, X still, thank.

23 posted on 08/18/2010 3:47:46 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

The analysis is forced. His first name is common in Arabic - no doubt chosen for him by his Muslim father. His last name is Chadic (of Chad, Kenya, surrounds) from whence his tribe hails. Hence, none of that has to do with Hebrew. (Bamah means high/exalted in Hebrew.)

Don’t concentrate on the counterfeit that Obama is saying/doing - concentrate on what the TRUTH says/does. (Thy Word is Truth - and that’s what matters...and prevails in the end.)


24 posted on 08/18/2010 3:48:10 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Charles Henrickson

Go ahead, kneel.


25 posted on 08/18/2010 3:53:32 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: anniegetyourgun
none of that has to do with Hebrew.

Whether in Hebrew or in Arabic--both Semitic languages--the root "B-R-K" means "to bless."

26 posted on 08/18/2010 3:58:53 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (M.Div., S.T.M., Ph.D. candidate in Biblical Studies)
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The name “Barack” is NOT from “B-R-Q,” “lightning,” but rather from “B-R-K,” “bless.”

I'll grant you that.

But whose to say what his real name is? Barack, Baraq, Barak , Barry ?

Osama Bin Ladin. Osama Bin Laden. Usama Bin Ladin. Al Queda. Al Quida. Taliban. Taleban. There seems to be a lot of variance in the Americanization of foreign names.

Maybe we could AXE his daddy or momma what the name means?

My guess is it translates into...

"Neither of us wanted this kid so we shoved him off on her parents."

27 posted on 08/18/2010 4:55:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Whether in Hebrew or in Arabic--both Semitic languages--the root "B-R-K" means "to bless."

With your "given credentials" you should know that where and when the word is used dictates the meaning. And http://jcsm.org/StudyCenter/kjvstrongs/CONHEB128.htm#S1289 shows that 1289 is only used 5 whole times and only in the book of Daniel. (four for blessed, once for kneel)

Dan 2:19-20 Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.
Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his...

Dan 3:28 [Then] Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed [be] the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego...
Dan 4:34 And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High...

Dan 6:10 Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed...


Be sure to scroll up to see the many, many times (over 100) 1288 was used.
You emphasis 1289 while completely overlooking the more complete 1288 which is where your word comes from.
Why are you doing that?
28 posted on 08/18/2010 5:15:50 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Charles Henrickson
BTW, be sure to check out the phonetics...1288 - baw-rak', 1289 - ber-ak', 1290 - beh'-rek
29 posted on 08/18/2010 5:22:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Restoration Quarterly Vol. 2 No. 1 (1958)
Blessing in the Old Testament: A Study of Genesis 12:3
The root idea of the verb b-r-k is "bend the knee," and the root is found throughout the Semitic family of languages' with this mean- ing. In Hebrew, the Piel conjugation became specialized in the usage[35] "to bless."
30 posted on 08/18/2010 5:26:49 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Whether in Hebrew or in Arabic--both Semitic languages--the root "B-R-K" means "to bless."
31 posted on 08/18/2010 5:29:00 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Charles Henrickson
I most anxiously await any reply.
32 posted on 08/18/2010 5:30:35 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
I didn't make any reference at all to either "1289" or "1288," since I wasn't looking at Strong's. But you are. Apparently, "1289" refers to the equivalent word in Aramaic, in the brief Aramaic section of Daniel, and that's why there are so few references. I am referring to the root "B-R-K" in the Hebrew, which has many, many occurrences.

Whether in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Arabic--all Semitic languages--the triliteral root "B-R-K" means "bless," not "lightning." The last consonant is kaph, not qoph. Look in any standard Hebrew lexicon, and under beth-resh-kaph you will find "bless" (and the related concept, "kneel"), while under beth-resh-qoph you will find "lightning."

So I'm not sure what your point is.

33 posted on 08/18/2010 5:40:18 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (M.Div., S.T.M., Ph.D. candidate in Biblical Studies)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Ph.D. candidate in Biblical Studies
Perhaps you need to study harder or more. I'll be here when you decide to say something.
Ignoring this only makes you look more foolish than you already do.
34 posted on 08/18/2010 5:40:32 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Charles Henrickson
I didn't make any reference at all to either "1289" or "1288," since I wasn't looking at Strong's.
Then what are you looking at?

I am referring to the root "B-R-K" in the Hebrew, which has many, many occurrences.
"B-R-K" isn't a root. It comes from a root word!
As I've shown there are only five occurrences of b-r-k. If there are more than that then you shouldn't have any problem giving reference to them.

So I'm not sure what your point is.
I'm not sure you have one other than obfuscation.

35 posted on 08/18/2010 5:46:41 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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What is your point? Are you saying that the name "Barack" is from the Semitic root "B-R-K," which means "bless" (and "kneel")? If so, I AGREE with you!

If you are saying that the name "Barack" means "lightning," then you are mistaken, since that is a different word from a different root, "B-R-Q."

Again I ask, politely: What is your point?

36 posted on 08/18/2010 5:49:39 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (M.Div., S.T.M., Ph.D. candidate in Biblical Studies)
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Well look who showed up long ago...using the same root word argument when the word in question isn't a root word at all.
And again with the root word argument
And for something different...Language Log February 14, 2007
Despite the spelling, Hebrew barak 'lightning' is actually derived from a different Semitic triliteral root: B-R-Q instead of B-R-K.
You're gonna fail if you stay so stubbornly pigheaded.
37 posted on 08/18/2010 5:56:04 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Again I ask, politely: What is your point?

Always you d-mn Lutherans siding with the Muslims.

38 posted on 08/18/2010 5:56:20 PM PDT by xone
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To: Charles Henrickson
Are you saying that the name "Barack" is from the Semitic root "B-R-K," which means "bless" (and "kneel")?
No, that's what you're saying. I've shown you yet again (reply 37) that B-R-K is not a root.
...derived from a different Semitic triliteral root: B-R-Q instead of B-R-K.
You're the one insisting a root word is one when it isn't.
And in the process you're completely misrepresenting what the word means.
39 posted on 08/18/2010 6:01:23 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Then what are you looking at?

Any one of the many standard Hebrew and Aramaic reference tools I have on my bookshelves right beside me. For instance, Holladay, pp. 49-50, or Harris-Archer-Waltke, pp. 132-133 (entries 285, 287).

"B-R-K" isn't a root. It comes from a root word!

The term "root," as I used it, is standard terminology for the root consonants: "Most words in Hebrew include a root, a sequence of consonants associated with a meaning or group of meanings. Most roots are triconsonantal. . ." (Waltke-O'Connor, p. 83).

As I've shown there are only five occurrences of b-r-k.

In the ARAMAIC, which is only a very small portion of the Old Testament. But the same root, with the same meaning, in the HEBREW, occurs hundreds of times: "The root and its derivatives occur 415 times" (Harris-Archer-Waltke, p. 132).

40 posted on 08/18/2010 6:07:17 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (M.Div., S.T.M., Ph.D. candidate in Biblical Studies)
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To: Charles Henrickson
The root idea of the verb b-r-k is "bend the knee," and the root is found throughout the Semitic family of languages' with this mean- ing.
How can the root be found if, as you're claiming, it is the root? You have to go to something before b-r-k (b-r-q) to get to the root. It's a derivative of the other, previous word.
41 posted on 08/18/2010 6:10:32 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36; xone

Look, are you saying the name “Barack” means “bless” or “lightning”? Those are two different words, with different final consonants. If you say “bless,” then you are right, and that is exactly what I have been saying all along. If you say “lightning,” then you are wrong.


42 posted on 08/18/2010 6:11:43 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (M.Div., S.T.M., Ph.D. candidate in Biblical Studies)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Holladay
A Concise Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament: Based upon the Lexical Work of Ludwig Koehler and Walter Baumgartner

(Waltke-O'Connor, p. 83).
An Introduction to Biblical Hebrew Syntax

(Harris-Archer-Waltke, p. 132).
Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament

You poor, poor man. No wonder you're so confused.

43 posted on 08/18/2010 6:24:29 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

OK, I’ll try again: What do you think the name “Barack” means?


44 posted on 08/18/2010 6:26:27 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (M.Div., S.T.M., Ph.D. candidate in Biblical Studies)
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To: philman_36

Are you disputing these standard reference works?


45 posted on 08/18/2010 6:27:35 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (M.Div., S.T.M., Ph.D. candidate in Biblical Studies)
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To: Charles Henrickson

I don’t know about the other guy, I was just busting your hump.


46 posted on 08/18/2010 6:30:08 PM PDT by xone
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To: Charles Henrickson
Let's start this from the beginning so you're clear on who is saying what.
You made an assertion...The name “Barack” is NOT from “B-R-Q,” “lightning,” but rather from “B-R-K,” “bless.” Two entirely different words in the Hebrew, the last consonant is different.
I simply put up a Strong's link showing where your word "bless" was with a definition according to that august publication. I made no mention whatsoever in that reply about my previous reply 8.

Once again you commented, albeit to another poster...Whether in Hebrew or in Arabic--both Semitic languages--the root "B-R-K" means "to bless."
Once again at 28 I gave information showing that you were using the word wrongly and pointed out that your "root" argument was wrong..."which is where your word comes from."
I gave the phonetics, a counter argument disproving your assertion and then you started going off into a land unknown pushing your root argument all the way.

Then you asked...Are you saying that the name "Barack" is from the Semitic root "B-R-K," which means "bless" (and "kneel")? which wasn't what I was saying at all. Please note that I've never said what "the name" Barack means in any way whatsoever. I've only given well established definitions for words.
And then things gets interesting as you further state...If you are saying that the name "Barack" means "lightning," then you are mistaken, since that is a different word from a different root, "B-R-Q."
I've only given the meanings of certain words and countered you as to what the words mean and from where they come. You did something quite deceptive in that reply in that you've mixed replies in an effort to confuse. You went back to reply 8 where I linked two other words, not the word in contention, and have tried to paint me as ignorant. It isn't working, especially as I've now called you on it and anyone going back over this conversation can easily see what you've attempted to do.

47 posted on 08/18/2010 6:55:33 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Charles Henrickson
What do you think the name “Barack” means?
The name Barack, to me, means a fraudulent impostor illegally occupying the position of POTUS.
48 posted on 08/18/2010 6:57:35 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Are you disputing these standard reference works?
Not that I'm aware of. I was feeling sorry for you in your, IMO, poor selection of learning material. Others, however, may feel differently about those particular works as you obviously do since you chose them.
Or were they required by the courses you're taking and mandatory purchases?
49 posted on 08/18/2010 7:01:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Alright, to use Strong's references, then, if that's what you want to use, I am saying that the meaning of "Barack" is related to Strong's 1288, barak, "bless," and NOT to Strong's 1300, baraq, "lightning."

Which Strong's reference do you think it is related to?

50 posted on 08/18/2010 7:16:19 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (M.Div., S.T.M., Ph.D. candidate in Biblical Studies)
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