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Murrieta Votes to Set Up E Verify in Their City
The Press Enterprise ^ | August 17, 2010 | John F. Hill

Posted on 08/19/2010 11:10:06 AM PDT by abigail2

Murrieta to consider E-Verify rule

11:36 PM PDT on Tuesday, August 17, 2010

By JOHN F. HILL
The Press-Enterprise

Immigration fight in Murrieta
Rally calls on council to mandate E-Verify, instead of merely "encourage" its use.
Published: 7/17/2010 08:18 PM

The Murrieta City Council unanimously voted late Tuesday to have the city attorney draft an ordinance mandating the use of E-Verify by all city businesses.

A few dozen anti-illegal immigration activists, still present for the 10 p.m. vote, clapped and cheered after the decision. The group had urged the council to mandate the use of the federal program that determines a potential employee's work status.

City attorney Leslie Devaney said the council could have an ordinance to consider by October.

Murrieta is the latest southwest Riverside County city to take up illegal immigration. The council initially was considering a resolution that urged, but did not require, employers to use the system, which checks employment information against government databases. A group of anti-immigration activists urged the council to pass a law mandating use of E-Verify.

Some called the resolution a "cop-out" during a rally before the meeting.

Seventeen people spoke during the public comment session -- all urging the council to mandate E-Verify.

"Get it passed and get these illegals out of here," said Faye Wons.

Eleanor Harvison, 16, of Murrieta, said she is about to enter the work force and that the council should pass a tough law.

"People that are legal should work. People that are illegal shouldn't work. They should work in their own country," Harvison said.

About 25 protesters, many of whom said they were affiliated with local tea party groups, marched outside City Hall before the meeting, chanting: "What do we want? E-Verify!" and "USA, USA!" Their signs read "Adopt Mexico's immigration policies," and "E-Verify makes the job hunt fair again!"

Council members questioned staff about how the city would enforce a mandate, what it could cost and whether the city could be sued if it passed one.

Councilman Rick Gibbs said he felt the city could pass a mandate, and should because "there is no immigration system in this country."

Murrieta uses E-Verify to check the status of potential city employees.

Arizona's law mandating E-Verify has been challenged in court and will be taken up by the Supreme Court in its next session. In a report prepared for the Murrieta meeting, Senior Management Analyst Brian Ambrose recommended the city pass the resolution while waiting for a court ruling.

The Inland Empire Rapid Response Network, an immigrants' rights group, said in a statement before the meeting that conservative groups pushing Murrieta and other governments to pass E-Verify laws are letting federal officials off the hook for fixing immigration problems.

"Instead, these groups are directing their anger against local immigrant families who are already suffering from our broken immigration system, with far-fetched claims and anti-immigrant tirades that have little to do with E-Verify," the statement said.

Temecula, Lake Elsinore and Menifee have passed E-Verify laws. Other southwest Riverside County cities are considering them.

Reach John F. Hill at 951-375-3738 or johnhill@PE.com


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: activism; aliens; crimaliens; everify; fraud; illegalimmigration; teaparties
Tedw and I were there, it was a great meeting. So far Landcaster, Temecula, Murrieta, Menefee, Lake Elsinore, Wildomar, Norco, have passed ordinances or are drafting them. Upland, Ontario, Hemet are considering it. Canyon Lake on their own are going to put it on their agenda. Next we go to Corona. It is spreading as people are beginning to see that our federal government won't be three for us. We have to start doing what we can do locally. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals gave us the authority to do this locally and you can get on board too. We will help you if you need it. Below are links to websites with all the information you need. Tom Tancredo has told Ted what a terrific idea this was, and wants to spread this all over the nation.

nonsanctuarycitymovement.ning.com

Murietta video here

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1 posted on 08/19/2010 11:10:10 AM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2

Glad to see it happening. Need Riverside to jump on board as well, but doubt it’s going to happen.


2 posted on 08/19/2010 11:12:28 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: abigail2

..the Inland Empire is fighting back even if the rest of the state is in a coma...


3 posted on 08/19/2010 11:19:01 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: 101viking; 50BMGisQueen; 7thOF7th; A CA Guy; A Conservative Voice; A_perfect_lady; ab01; ...

it is very satisfying to go around to the different city councils and meet other Americans. These council members...not all not all...but most of them see what is happening and are happy to see that there is something they can do. It really really helps if you have a good size group and rally before the meeting because that reminds them that they have lots of support. Murrieta was considering it and then got cold feet when staff members urged them NOT to adopt E verify. They were worried about being sued. When we showed up and spoke (you are usually given 2-3 minutes to talk each, they lost their fears and voted unanimously for E Verify. I was surprised because 2 members seemed kinda weak....anyway we can help, especially Tedw, it is his baby. He can tell you how to organize a press conference too.

4 posted on 08/19/2010 11:30:07 AM PDT by abigail2
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To: rockinqsranch

We went to the city council in Riverside be they were not ready yet! LOL Wait until all the illegals start pouring into their city from the other cities around them. Maybe the county supervisors...do you live there? Maybe we could work together on the supervisors.


5 posted on 08/19/2010 11:34:42 AM PDT by abigail2
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To: WalterSkinner

Some cities in northern calif. are asking for advice now too! Anyone can try it and we will tell you the secrets. Only if you are in 10th circuit court of appeal will you have a problem.


6 posted on 08/19/2010 11:36:28 AM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2

The only problem I have with E-Verify, and yes, I use it in my company, is that it only verifies that the name and number given are ok to work, not that the person giving the number is ok.

Illegals are notorious for idendity theft.

But it’s a heck of a start.


7 posted on 08/19/2010 11:44:22 AM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: abigail2

Good stuff!


8 posted on 08/19/2010 12:03:19 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: abigail2

The county supervisors do not have to live in the city of Riverside. The city council rules the city.


9 posted on 08/19/2010 12:08:31 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: RikaStrom

It is true what your saying. However, E-verify is improving all the time and is now including a photo tool sometimes which DOES check person.

Anyway, even if it only catches 50% of the illegals showing phony documents, it is better than what we have now which is nothing.


10 posted on 08/19/2010 12:18:26 PM PDT by tedw (Constitution)
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To: blackie

Hi, glad to see you. molon labe


11 posted on 08/19/2010 12:18:30 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: RikaStrom

Yeah, it is mighty satisfying to DO SOMETHING! lOL And I am finding out these city council members are a pretty good lot. They are in a unique position to make a big difference in the newly socialized America, and they seem to rise up to meet the challenge.


12 posted on 08/19/2010 12:22:40 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: RikaStrom

Also, it acts a a deterrent because signs have to be posted in each company saying they E Verify and discourages people from trying.


13 posted on 08/19/2010 12:24:27 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2

I grew up not to far from Murrieta, CA. ... Lake Elsinore... ;)

Molon Labe!


14 posted on 08/19/2010 12:32:15 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: abigail2

Great news!


15 posted on 08/19/2010 12:51:31 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: abigail2

Actually if you read the 10 th circuit case closely,E-verify can still be required in 10th circuit states. Anyway, the Supreme Court will rule in the spring.

I have no doubt that the Conservative Court will uphold the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision. The 9th Circus Court of Appeal is far more liberal and couldn’t find anything wrong with the law. The Supremes are going to rebuke the Obama administration.

A link to the 9th Circuit decision can be found at this website:

http://nonsanctuarycitymovement.ning.com/


16 posted on 08/19/2010 1:05:51 PM PDT by tedw (Constitution)
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To: tedw; abigail2
Ah, the photo then helps tremendously. I don't hire to often so I don't use it to often. Last time I logged in, they made me go through training again, because they had changed the website up.

I'm glad governmental entities are starting to wise up. The majority of legal Americans are rabidly against illegal immigrants. I can't understand what part of "illegal" that certain groups are missing.

(Shakes head)

17 posted on 08/19/2010 1:11:09 PM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: abigail2

..cut out LA county and the Bay Area and CA would be OK


18 posted on 08/19/2010 1:16:17 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: WalterSkinner

“..cut out LA county and the Bay Area and CA would be OK”

Yep! My county in Calif. is more conservative than just about anywhere you can find. In fact, we refer to ourselves as ‘the State of Jefferson’ just to distance ourselves from the liberal run cities.


19 posted on 08/19/2010 1:21:02 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

You guys up there ought to get some of your local city councils or even the county supervisors on board with e-verify. Its not that hard to do.

WE CAN TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK.!


20 posted on 08/19/2010 1:24:27 PM PDT by tedw (Constitution)
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To: abigail2

Live in rural, but was developing before the Housing bubble burst Riverside County, not the City of Riverside.

Full of illegals. Have to wade through them to get to the County road just to get to town, and then they are all along Van Buren Blvd. waiting for some fool to pick ‘em up, and pay ‘em to pick weeds, and stuff.

We don’t hire ‘em around here, but the damned Liberals down the way both do. Really ticks me off.


21 posted on 08/19/2010 1:29:11 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: tedw

“You guys up there ought to get some of your local city councils or even the county supervisors on board with e-verify. Its not that hard to do.

WE CAN TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK.!”

In our county ( on the border with Oregon) it’s not hiring illegal aliens that is our problem.(NO one has a job here!) It’s thousands of well armed Mexican illegal alien Drug cartels growing dope next door!

Deputies shoot and kill man guarding pot garden (Mexican Cartels)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2569336/posts


22 posted on 08/19/2010 1:34:23 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


23 posted on 08/19/2010 1:36:27 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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To: AuntB

Yes,I understand.

Maybe you should get a bumper sticker that reads:

“E-verify the dope dealers”.

Good for some laughs anyway.


24 posted on 08/19/2010 1:39:17 PM PDT by tedw (Constitution)
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To: tedw

“Maybe you should get a bumper sticker that reads:

“E-verify the dope dealers”.

Good for some laughs anyway.”

It’s not just ILLEGAL aliens. Our Sheriff has captured some of the growers with USA issued agriculture green cards (temp workers, don’t ya know)


25 posted on 08/19/2010 1:49:57 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: blackie

We were there, they have e verify, they have a great lady mayor now.


26 posted on 08/19/2010 2:42:21 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: tedw

Good to hear.


27 posted on 08/19/2010 2:43:51 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: Nea Wood

Yes, coming to a city near you! Unless you live in L.A. or S.F.


28 posted on 08/19/2010 2:44:57 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2

E-verify Obama!


29 posted on 08/19/2010 2:45:11 PM PDT by tedw (Constitution)
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To: RikaStrom

(nods in agreement)


30 posted on 08/19/2010 2:46:08 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: WalterSkinner

Yes, my sister lives in the bay area and she will not even listen to anything that contradicts her the Cronicle!


31 posted on 08/19/2010 2:47:50 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: AuntB

I don’t know the Inland Empire is pretty tough. THey all passed ordinances to support Arizona too.


32 posted on 08/19/2010 2:49:05 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: tedw

THat is what is so great about this. It is a little thing but it’s nice to know you have authority to do this and makes you think what else you can do. It is possible to take our country back.


33 posted on 08/19/2010 2:52:11 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: tedw

Now I’m for that...


34 posted on 08/19/2010 2:56:41 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2

Yup, anyone can do it in a conservative city. We even have a sample letter for you council people set up on our ning site.

Many council people are patriotic amercians who love their country. I have met some good ones.

Councilman Douglas Mcalister of Murrieta is particularly good.
It was like having one of us up on the council seat.


35 posted on 08/19/2010 5:54:14 PM PDT by tedw (Constitution)
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To: tedw

And don’t forget Norco, they were all great in their cowboy hatsexcept one nervous nellie


36 posted on 08/19/2010 6:18:33 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: abigail2

Article is NOT accurate, as actual vote on E-Verify was not taken.


37 posted on 08/19/2010 6:54:41 PM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: montag813

Thats true. But there will be. They don’t go to the trouble of drafting an ordinance unless theire is support.

I can post a sample council letter if snyone wants to see one.


38 posted on 08/19/2010 8:49:01 PM PDT by tedw (Constitution)
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To: montag813

What happened then. That is what I was led to believe...they were putting together an ordinance that would be ready on or about October 1st. Were you there


39 posted on 08/19/2010 9:21:43 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: rockinqsranch

Riverside is not going to do it unless they replace some of those council people, and especially the mayor. We need to know how they all stand on the issue now.


40 posted on 08/20/2010 2:31:01 AM PDT by tedw (Constitution)
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To: tedw

“Riverside is not going to do it unless they replace some of those council people, and especially the mayor. We need to know how they all stand on the issue now.”

I’d say we already know how they stand on the issue as we already know they all have to be replaced.


41 posted on 08/20/2010 3:27:47 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: abigail2
Wow...

Different but still at the local level.

Here in Michigan, an Open Carry group got a local art fair to go along with their demands of allowing to Open Carry. The local artsy fartsy types are going nuts. The E-check is more sober, but the link is these things are happening at the local level. The Open Carry guys I must admit is a bit of shadenfruede, for years the liberals have been in our face, now we are saying deal with us...

42 posted on 08/20/2010 3:45:25 AM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: abigail2

I haven’t been there since 1938...it has probably changed a little bit. ;)


43 posted on 08/20/2010 9:24:55 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: WalterSkinner

The rest of the state is just afraid and filled with learned helplessness.


44 posted on 08/20/2010 9:28:24 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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