Skip to comments.My chat with JD Hayworth...
Posted on 08/21/2010 4:58:02 PM PDT by Hildy
OK, so before I get started I have to tell everyone here that JD Hayworth reads what we post here. And he REMEMBERS! LOL! I am a JD supporter, and several months ago when I met him for the first time, he told me he likes to come here to FreeRepublic and read what we have to say. I was going to have him come here, but I never followed through, which was my fault. However, I have been hard on him in recent weeks.
I have to say that because Mohave County, where I live, is so conservative, conservative candidates take us for granted. Mohave County is NOT McCain land, so it's hard for me to gauge what's really going on around the State. I hadn't seen many JD ads and frankly, McCain is spending all his money attacking (in a very ugly manner) Hayworth. If everyone in Mohave would get off their asses and vote, we'd sway this election and there'd be no more Senator McCain. But we all know that's not the way it works.
However, someone high up in Republican politics from Phoenix told me the other day that she believes JD has a very strong chance as she knows NOBODY who is voting for McCain. So although I don't see the campaign too much here in Mohave, I understand now that he has been working really hard in Maricopa where elections are won and lost. That made me feel better as I slipped into my seat at the Mohave County Republican Picnic today.
I saw Hayworth and went over to say hello. The first thing he did was hug me and then ask me why I've turned on him! (Of course, this was all done with a smile on both our faces)...He proceeded to recite back to me some of the things I've written here on FR. LOL! I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT I WRITE FROM DAY TO DAY..the guy has an incredible memory!
So, I know he's reading this now, and I have to tell you that he must have taken his "adorable pills" because he was sweet and adorable and NOT bombastic like I have said in the past!
Seriously, the bottom line is we must defeat McCain. If only that Jim Deakins (who is a nut and I hope he's reading this too) would have done the right thing and stepped aside, I'd feel much better about everything today.
My support for JD has never swayed. I support him, I'm voting for him and I am asking everyone from Arizona to vote for him on Tuesday.
GOOD LUCK ON TUESDAY, J.D.!!!!
John McCain - the WORST Senator money can buy!
John McCain??? Arizona, you can’t be serious about reelecting this lying political hack??? WHO are you people?? Don’t you remember he barely survived an Arizona recall effort?
Conservatives don’t back him...Independents have finally wised up....when will you? Liberal rags like the Washington Post and NY Times endorse McCain...why do suppose that is?
John McCain was NEVER an Arizonan...his wife’s rich daddy bought him a congressional seat in Arizona and moved him there! He’s just another carpetbagger.
Some ask how McCain can be doing as well as he is in this race..is it the 20 plus million dollars he’s spent on distorted ads to defeat a legitimate opponent....he certainly didn’t do that to beat Obama and the democrats!!!
J. D. Hayworth beats him hands down on the record on immigration, sovereignty, every conservative issue. J.D. also beat him in the debates....too bad you didn’t listen!
J.D. Has a near perfect record for conservatism and actually showing up to do his job! And McCain....the MOST ABSENT member of the SENATE!....but then he can’t be bothered with such nonsense when he’s spent the last 2 decades on the campaign trial!
Money is a big part of it. Big donations by mobsters in Vegas, the La Raza crowd and private prisons who house illegal aliens ( Private prison builder GEOs PAC gave only $5,000 each to the campaigns of Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Huckabee.
$500 to McCain several times was given by John Hurley, ceo GEO, who contributes BIG to the open border loving RNC and Charlie Christ.
NOTE: Remember just a few days ago the prisoners who escaped one of McCains donor’s private prisons in AZ??? This is a big scam to house illegal aliens and they are notorious for problems within them.
Lying is McCains hole card, always has been. By the time this election started, McCain had reinvented himself and his campaign website...Ive never been for amnesty, blah,blah, blah..... He went so far in Tuscon recently to declarePresident Reagan granted amnesty to two million people and that was wrong,
Heres another thing...he has purchased relevant keywords on the net, so no matter what youre looking for you get his campaign websites.
The Search For A Candidate (from the pres primary, 2008)
[snip]McCains people say that every dollar they spend on online search advertising brings in three or four bucks.
The national polls dont reflect it, but in one sense John McCain is the clear front runner in the presidential race: he leads in search-engine ads. When you type McCains name into Google, alongside or above the standard search results youll always get a text ada sponsored linkthat leads you to a Web site soliciting campaign contributions for the Arizona senator. What happens when you type Giuliani into Google? You get a paid link to the former New York mayors site. But you also get a McCain ad.
The other obvious search words involve search terms people use when researching specific issues. Here again, McCain is busy; his people say that at various times theyve bought 10,000 different words. Giuliani pops up with flat tax and illegal immigrant. But when I tried universal health care, nothing from any candidate came up. Vary it a little by typing health care reform and you get a paid link to John McCain
Indeed, Sen. McCain has been on the stump in Arizona of late, telling everyone how he supports Arizona’s SB 1070, how he wants to ‘secure the border’ and is against ‘amnesty’.When you go to McCain’s website, he’ll tell you he NEVER supported AMNESTY. Another lie! Just a few days ago, the bipartisan Immigration Reform Caucus, 76 members of the House of Representatives and five U.S. Senators have waded into the lawsuit by the Obama administration in U.S. vs. Arizona in support of Arizona.
Along with 81 congressmen, Rep. Duncan Hunter & Tom McClintock, R-California, signs Amicus Brief supporting Arizona Immigration Law, which includes 5 US Senators... Wicker, DeMint, Vitter, Inhofe, Barrasso, but NO John McCain!
McCain: “Those who live closest are the ones who can get here. Everyone in the world should have the opportunity through an orderly process to come to this country” Source:AZ Senate Debate, in Tucson Citizen Oct 16, 2004
*America is still the land of opportunity, Senator John McCain recently said. And were not going to erect barriers and fences. June 26, 2007 National Review
*SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ.: I do not favor using troops because they are not trained for it. They dont have the kind of qualifications necessary. I have strongly favored us using all the technical equipment that our military has including satellites, including aircraft and other technical means. May, 2001
Come on Arizona!! Don’t let McCain fool you again, like he did in his so called ‘presidential race’!
Sorry I can't help as I moved to Minneapolis to escape the heat.
I am involved in Minnesota however.
I'd vote for you over McInsane, despite Sarah Palin's endorsement.
Just LAY OFF THE EARMARKS.
That's a lot of money and GOP establishment to try and fight. Here's an earnest prayer that he makes it!
Whatever happens, Grahamesty is toast in 14. He can't even show his face in his own hometown.
You didn’t seem to know it the first time Onyx. A simply you’re welcome would have sufficed.
I went out of my way to be cordial to you due to our disagreements, and you’re thanks was to deflect.
Take some good nature thanks when it’s offered and stop the nonsense.
He does NOT seem like an Arizonan whatsoever. Not even after all these years. Wearing his baseball hat and walking along the border fence (probably Photoshopped, ha), gritting his mouth while he spits out lies, he looks like the biggest fake.
If he was going to just take what people gave for the presidential run, what that 20 million to win a primary could have done to help conservative candidates.... For example, here in CD8 where whichever guy (unless the RNC coughs up more) runs against Gabby Marxist Girl will have mere thousands compared to her 1.9 million war chest .
Hayworth won by 57,000 votes in 04 and lost by 8,000 in 06. Those voters came out by the thousands to defeat Sailor boy, voting Hayworth to drive the point home. They stayed home by the thousands when it was Hayworth by his blustering lonesome.
If you are ever at a function with McCain in attendance, watch who he is surrounded by, who he greets by name, who he is comfortable with. First are the Mormons, who have been his constituents since 82. Third are the ex-military who he courts and is relaxed with. The second group are the proprietorships and management class, mainly from North Phoenix, medical, real estate and financial. These are the same voters that abandoned Hayworth in 06. A large segment of this type voter lean Republican but are unhappy with the party for one reason or another. They register Independent and do not concern themselves with party matters.
Forty percent of the independents are not going to vote in the primaries. There may be an uptick but nothing major. McCain will win with 20+, my guess around 24, with the upside belonging to McCain.. Thats just his solid base. An insurgency, any insurgency, is good for the party but they take a backseat to basic politics. If McCain was in trouble we would have seen Romney back. We didnt.
It ain’t over till it’s over. All ya gotta do is vote!
I’m going to hold on to this post of yours. Although it makes sense and is well thought out, I think you’re missing the big picture this year, and that’s the tea party movement that is bringing people out in droves...they will vote for JD (Or, I hate to say it, Deakins whom I loathe.) and they will vote in the primary. I hope I can come back on Wednesday and say, “I TOLD YOU SO!!!.”
I will always remember and admire McCain as giving of himself for his country, but it's time to put slow to act and tired ideas out to pasture. That's not an insult, as champion race horses take the same path after a stunning career. There is no shame in knowing when to retire.
JD Hayworth just seems to fit the seat comfortably. He needs to show leadership with dignity, honesty, be available to his constituents and lend an ear--there needs to be no "personal battle" of words between the two candidates, it only turns off the voter. Voters are tired, they want a future for themselves and their families that they can believe and trust in. I'ts time to vote into office those that can kick start this country back into being a proud, but humble, economic super power once again.
That's how I see it, Hildy.
Having run against Romney in the presidential primaries and with accompaning reports of bad blood between them, it was crucial for McCain to have a show of solidarity with Romney. Romney's endorsement released a lot of money that was on the sidelines and, more importantly, allowed party machinery to kick in with hundreds of the faithful going to work for McCain to one degree or another. It was Romney's appearance that clinched it for McCain, not Governor Palin's. If McCain was in trouble with the base, Romney would have been back.
Hayworth didn't help any when, at about the same time, he came out with his "I saw Jesus" remarks. In the West that is code for anti-Mormon.
Id rather be at a tailgater with J. D. Hes a big, friendly bullsitter but I cant shake the feeling that hes going with the flow. He says all the words in the right order to the point that it sounds programmed. Given time, maybe, but not now.
Its difficult to measure what effect the tea party movement will have. Ordinarily I could tell you how the vote would go, county by county, precinct by precinct and sometimes household by household. I cant this time but I really dont think that the tea party will have that much impact by the way that the campaign has shaped.
How said, J.D. did all he could, and he won the debates. But he has found that the people of AZ are as immovable as the Grand Canyon that they claim to revere.
I've no doubt, really, that the well-being of the Republic is a high priority for Senator McCain.
It's probably right there behind the well-being of Senator McCain...
You support someone who says he’s glad Obama won the Presidential election?
When did jd say that?
well, we’ll see, won’t we?
B T T T
Thanks for all of your work, and for keeping us informed of events.
Thank you, BQ! THAT is what really frosts me about Mr. Campaign Finance Reform. I haven't revisited the CFR thing in a while, but I have to guess that there is a provision for this very thing---funds left from national runs used for the candidates re-election. (And, what has HRC done with her left over dough?...hmmmm?)
Yeah, Campaign Finance Reform, indeed.
candidates = candidate's.
I really hate seeing that stuff just after hitting "post"
It’s so disgusting how far gone we are that certain elites get to do whatever they want to, and rules (and cameras watching us everywhere) are only for the little people. ARGGGHHHHH
I hope so........ I still think her tax stance was wrong...
I missed your post, glad to see you found it without our help... tomorrow I will go to the polls and do my part for JD.
And yet, they purport to represent us. It is sad.
Everything’s so upside-down right now. I don’t know if I should take a news-fast (after the primary tomorrow, here in AZ, and after the Nov elections) or what. Gotta hold out hope for the moment, I guess.... keep walking door-to-door, all of that... We have a proposition on the ballot here against CommieCare so that’s a good thing...
There's is a good article today outlining the too close relationship between McCain and lobbyists. The author is a liberal who doesn't like conservatives like Hayworth, but he makes the point about Mccain and his lobbyist friends like Rick Davis that I talked about in my article, Indians, Lobbyists and Arizona Politics...OH MY!
John McCain Still Pallin' Around With Lobbyists
Aug. 21, 2010
[snips]McCain has sullied his carefully crafted legacy by swinging sharply to the political right, betraying his once hard-forged positions on everything from immigration reform to global warming.
In many respects, the McCain image as a "maverick" and "reformer" has always been something of a charade. McCain's seminal role in the Keating Five scandal during his first term in office forever tarnished his reputation. Indeed, there are many who would argue that what we are now seeing is the real McCain--stripped bare of the fanciful narrative--whose guiding light is neither public virtue nor principle, but raw ambition and a lust for power.
"There are two John McCains," a close friend of the senator's told New York Magazine's Joe Hagan. "The one I love is a very big man, and he's willing to take on big issues in a big way. Then there's another side of John, he'll admit, that is petty and angry and petulant and small, and that side has overtaken the other one."
For all his proclamations about congressional earmarks and fiscal transparency in the federal budget, McCain has always run with a close coterie of DC-based lobbyists, particularly during the campaign season, when his political ambitions merge with those of special interest groups who have poured money into his campaign coffers.
At the center of McCain's lobbying controversies has been uber-lobbyist Rick Davis, his on-and-off-again presidential campaign manager who, according to Hagan, has sold what was left of McCain's soul to the devil this summer in the blistering Arizona desert.
Davis has long been a shady and controversial figure around McCain. A University of Alabama drop-out and former political operative in the Reagan White House, Davis worked his way into McCain's inner-circle in the late 1990s by forging a relationship with McCain's wife, Cindy, who once described Davis to Katie Couric as "our closest friend."
During the 2008 campaign, it was Davis--who after being demoted for a second time by McCain--was assigned the task of overseeing the selection process of the senator's running mate, a process which he bungled badly. Not only did he fail to lay the political groundwork for McCain's first choice of Joe Liebermann....
Davis himself was the focus several negative stories directed at the McCain campaign. First there were the revelations that Davis had worked for the Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska and had set up a meeting in Switzerland with McCain and Deripaska, whose "suspected links to anti-democratic and organized-crime figures are so controversial," the Washington Post reported, "that the U.S. government revoked his visa."
Then came the revelations that Davis's lobbying firm was paid nearly $2 million by Freddie Mac--the controversial federal mortgage giant that was placed in receivership during the middle of the 2008 presidential campaign.
Davis and McCain were also linked to gambling interests in a celebrated New York Times expose that featured an account of McCain tossing $100 chips at a craps table in a Connecticut casino with Davis at his side--this at a time when McCain was regulating the operation of Indian casinos as a member of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee.
Less well known was what one senior McCain advisor called a "kickback scheme" orchestrated by Davis to skim five percent of all expenditures from the McCain campaign into a partnership, Management Alliance Realty, Inc., created by Davis's friend and lobbyist Scott Reed and Reed's controversial client, Indian-casino developer and lobbyist Richard Fields. According to the Wall Street Journal, Davis also formed a company (3eDC) overseeing McCain's internet campaign contributions for which he initially charged the campaign more than $1 million.
For all the controversies, Davis is once again riding shotgun with McCain in Arizona, serving with another controversial lobbyist, Charlie Black, as senior advisors to the campaign. It has been based on Davis's advice, according to Hagan --with apparently little regard for public perception of McCain's integrity--that McCain has denied his "maverick" legacy and is sounding more and more like the right-wing Republicans with whom he once waged battle.
The sad truth of the matter is that having his lobbyist pals at his side probably hasn't hurt him. He has raised nearly $20 million to Hayworth's $2.5 million. He may have once branded himself a political reformer, but with John McCain, the democratic process has always come with a price attached.
Oh me too Carolyn, I’m hoping we can hold her feet to the fire, but we’ll just have to wait and see. Her popularity will plunge to earth so fast it will make your head spin should she turn out to be a McCain republican.
I know that feeling! I do that every now and then. I watch re-runs of shows and just veg out.
Hahah, me too... but then something ticks me off on a show and I have to start flipping around... ("Law and Order," for ex. is so political now, it probably always was but seems soo brazen with their agenda the last few years). Old black and white movies, or westerns, are safe... :0))
Perhaps there will be a FR "virtual election night" thread...yeah...that's it...
Just spoke with JD’s office and he will be reading this when he gets to the office. So say whatever you want to say, and say it now!!!
Wow about your invitation, way cool!! And thank you very much Maggie!
I *might* be going to one of the victory parties for the CD8 runoff, we’ll see (here in Tucson, nothing too glam :0), but maybe I’ll see you online afterwards or something.
Ok, I hope very much it's a victory party.
Sorry if this posts twice...
She’s a 51-year-old retired federal probation official: union member (JD is too conservative for her). She likes that fat, taxpayer pension.
There will be.
I'll be there, then! Have a good night!
LOL, clever observation which was lost on me.