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America’s Ten Dead Cities: From Detroit To New Orleans
247wallst.com ^ | 8/23/2010 | 247wallst.com

Posted on 08/26/2010 10:45:30 AM PDT by dragnet2

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To: No Truce With Kings
I always liked the Railroad Museum and my wife liked the old mansion tours.
Yup, but you and that other couple weren't enough to make 'em selfsupporting.
81 posted on 08/26/2010 11:56:31 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: dragnet2
Live Galveston Beach Cam
82 posted on 08/26/2010 11:58:41 AM PDT by 38special (Remember in November!)
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To: No Truce With Kings

Plus there is not enough space to stack all those containers and cars that go up to Houston. And the majority of cargo is oil which goes directly to refineries which are in Texas City and Passastinkingdena since Galveston is a narrow barrier island.


83 posted on 08/26/2010 11:59:39 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: Springman

When I went to school there, the slogan was Detroit is the *sshole of America, and Flint is 60 miles up it.

Back in the 60s the license plates used to say “winter wonderland” one year alternating with “water wonderland” the next.

We called it the winter water welfare wonderland.


84 posted on 08/26/2010 11:59:41 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

“I live in CA and have never been to the Houston area. I have been to Dallas and have always admired the the pro-business attitude and environment of the Metroplex.”

Texas has always welcomed pro-business types, especially those living in anti-business states or places. I moved to Texas from Michigan 30+ years back, and have never regretted the move. So when ya get tired enough of California, move on down here. If you like the water and fresh seafood, Galveston County’s a great place to live. And there are plenty of nice places in the county.


85 posted on 08/26/2010 12:04:57 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (I can see November from my house.)
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To: dragnet2

Somebody please shoot Las Vegas and put it out of it’s misery. Las Vegas might not be dead yet, but it is in the ICU.


86 posted on 08/26/2010 12:06:02 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free ("I am pessimistic and fighting become despairing," Thomas Sowell to Walter Williams, 8-24-10.)
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To: dragnet2

Galveston ain’t dead yet. UTMB is hiring, and rebuilding from Ike. With property prices so low, and interest rates, many are buying, building, and moving back, increasing tax revenue.

Of course, with the economy in shambles, many Houston area families couldn’t afford a full/real vacation, so they went to Galveston instead this summer - which lead to a banner year in the old Bender household.

Smoke up Johnny!

/may have confused an old movie with the last sentiment or two.


87 posted on 08/26/2010 12:08:19 PM PDT by Ro_Thunder (Press want Obama = “Camelot II - The Return of JFK”, not “Peanuts II - that’s all you’ll have l)
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To: 38special
Live Galveston Beach Cam.....
88 posted on 08/26/2010 12:09:45 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: No Truce With Kings

It sure would be nice to live in a practical, sane, pro-business state like Texas. Thanks for the warm welcome. But with my wife’s family all here in Southern CA, I think that is easier said than done. I personally am very sick of the socialists who have run this state into the ground and are drowning it in an ocean of red ink.


89 posted on 08/26/2010 12:14:34 PM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: dblshot

Or to the Indian Casinos in OK. Ever been by WinStar on the weekends?

All from Texas.


90 posted on 08/26/2010 12:20:13 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: Howie66

No, I’ve only seen pictures. I have friends who go often...one there today who goes to a pulmonary doc...and goes early to eat sea food.


91 posted on 08/26/2010 12:23:37 PM PDT by lonestar (Barry is furious the big spill wasn't caused by EXXON...would have nationalized it by now.)
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To: nmh
"Cities run bt Demoncrats?"

Or, as I prefer to call them Dhimmi-crats.

92 posted on 08/26/2010 12:24:13 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: dblshot

“Plus there is not enough space to stack all those containers and cars that go up to Houston. And the majority of cargo is oil which goes directly to refineries which are in Texas City and Passastinkingdena since Galveston is a narrow barrier island.”

While a common belief, the storage space issue is mostly a myth. Containerization encourages just-in-time. A ship can unload containers and reload new ones in hours — two, three day max. A container just sitting around acting as a portable warehouse is costing someone money. They tend not to sit at port storage yards for weeks like cargo did back in the 1950s. They are put on railroad cars and shipped out in a day or two.

Ditto all the cars that get unloaded. If Galveston has space for all of the cars of people driving there to board cruise ships (it does), it has space to hold unloaded cars from car carriers bringing them from overseas until they get loaded up.

A better case might be made that Galveston lacks the rail capacity, but while that may be true today, it wasn’t in the 1960s. I believe that at least two sets of railroad mainlines going to Galveston Island in the 1930s have been removed. I know that there used to be a rail line paralleling 146 that isn’t there today — removed sometime in the 1980s.

The real reason all the port facilities were built in Houston was that the land on which they were built (mostly in the 1960s through 1980s was cheaper than land in Galveston and that Houston was more business-friendly to new shippers because it was hungrier than Galveston for that type of business back in the day.

Nowadays? I suspect that Houston is still more business-friendly, but I suspect that Galveston land (with deep-water access) is now cheaper than Houston land (with deep-water access). Certainly the cruise ship industry found Galveston a better buy than Houston back in the 1990s.

As for petroleum products, I think Freeport is where the bulk of those go in. With pipelines it doesn’t really matter where the refinery is relative to the port.


93 posted on 08/26/2010 12:29:30 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (I can see November from my house.)
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To: SandRat

Younger freepers might find it hard to believe that Detroit was once a vibrant, industrious American city.

Video #1: Detroit 1965
http://www.archive.org/details/DetroitC1965

After 55 years of solid blue Democrat leadership, Detroit fundamentally changed.

Video #2: Detroit 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhJ_49leBw

It is truly shocking to compare the Detroits depicted in these two videos.

There really are two Americas: socialist, welfare-state hellholes like Detroit that are utterly dependent upon the federal government and the American civil society comprised of productive business, professions, families, and other voluntary civic, social, and religious organizations. The Democrat dream is to eliminate the latter to unify America in the former ... just like they’ve done in Detroit.


94 posted on 08/26/2010 12:34:08 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Skepolitic

Remember the Hudson’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, going downtown to see all the animations for Christmas the Hudson’s had in it’s windows, and standing in line for hours just to talk to Santa then go through Hudson’s Toyland?


95 posted on 08/26/2010 12:39:14 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: No Truce With Kings
Well let me amend my comment and I think we can agree that there is not enough low cost land that can be used for yard space. Container trucks back up on Industrial er, excuse me, Harborside Drive (name change tells you something right there) and I-45 isn't a clear commute north anyway. Could Galveston have gone industrial versus their idea of being a resort, sure but there really isn't enough room for both. Have you ever seen the backup on I-45 after a nice weather weekend. You'd think the idiots that run metro could at least open the HOV lanes on Sunday night into Houston but noooo, let those cars sit next to it. Which begs the question if Galveston is a dead city, how come there is so much traffic to and from it? Sounds like Yogi Berra's quip that he no one ever goes to that restaurant anymore, it's too crowed.
96 posted on 08/26/2010 12:42:38 PM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: dragnet2

I call BS on the inclusion of Galveston. They just had to stick in a city in Texas to try to make it look “fair”.


97 posted on 08/26/2010 12:49:23 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

Found is strange that Galveston wound up on this list. I would think with its close proximity to Houston’s thriving economy and busy port, it would be thriving as well.

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It is geographically close, but is out of the way. The Port of Houston - which was created because constructing the artificial port was cheaper than paying New Orleans longshoremen - receives the trade.

Galveston has been bypassed commercially, and barely staggers along on tourism.


98 posted on 08/26/2010 12:56:36 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Pining_4_TX

Galveston is barely a city - and the 1900 Hurricane pretty much ended any hope of growth it ever had.


99 posted on 08/26/2010 1:00:02 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Psalm 144

And it’s been bypassed ever since 1900. The cargoes went to Houston after the hurricane of that year and they never came back.

Mostly Galveston exists for tourism and Spring Break.


100 posted on 08/26/2010 1:01:04 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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