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More accusations made in close Senate race (Miller V Murkowski)
adn.com ^ | August 29th, 2010 02:05 AM | SEAN COCKERHAM

Posted on 08/29/2010 5:48:42 AM PDT by onyx

SENATE RACE: Miller's camp says GOP group is preparing for legal battle.

There were more allegations by the Joe Miller campaign of ballot-counting monkey business on Saturday as the absentees continue to pour into the Alaska Division of Elections. State elections officials now say there are 23,472 ballots to process, with more coming, and the first count set for Tuesday.

Miller currently leads Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski by 1,668 votes in the Republican primary.

Miller campaign spokesman Randy DeSoto said in an e-mail Saturday that there are many calls going out to Alaskans who voted absentee ballots, asking them who they voted for in the primary.

DeSoto said his basis for making that assertion is that a woman contacted the Miller campaign about getting a call, that such a call was brought up in the comment section of a story on the Daily News website, and that several people had called an Anchorage talk radio show to say they've received such calls.

"I believe, and time will prove it, (the calls) are being done for nefarious purposes," DeSoto said in the e-mail. "It is definitely not being done by the Joe Miller campaign. It is being done, I believe, by the National Republican Senatorial Committee or someone they contracted with as the beginning of a legal battle to throw out ballots."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: backstabber; dirtydealings; dirtytricks; followthedots; joemiller; miller; murkowsk; nrsc; palin; saboteur
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To: Brices Crossroads

Joe Miller is coming up on Face the Nation in 20 minutes.

I want to hear what he has to say.

I hope you’re right. I think he’ll ‘legitimately’ win the absentee ballots also.

I got an email from last night, which I posted. I know I pinged you to at least one of the postings.


51 posted on 08/29/2010 7:19:12 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: advance_copy; Brices Crossroads

The absentee ballots had to be postmarked no later than August 24, 2010.

I think that’s the problem with some of them.
Mass mailing once Murkowski saw she was losing..... on election night.


52 posted on 08/29/2010 7:25:11 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: screaminsunshine

No, I don’t think the absentee votes have doubled but the press is using the number of total (Dem & Pubbie) ballots. The number of Republican ballots issued from what I have read is in the neighborhood of 8,000 ballots. (Total requested ballots was about 16,000 -Dem & Pubbie)

I think the press is trying to get us stirred up and Dems are probably trying to instill doubt about outcome.


53 posted on 08/29/2010 7:31:51 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: onyx
If the GOP takes over the Senate Lisa is in line to be chair of the very important energy committee. She is now a very senior Senator and Alaska will be much better with her in a strong position rather then having two very junior senators. Most Alaskan do not understand the importance of the energy committee chairman.
54 posted on 08/29/2010 7:46:01 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: Texas Fossil

OK thanks. I get it now. I hope Miller wins I saw him on Face the Nation and he is really good. Very straight up.


55 posted on 08/29/2010 8:10:32 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: tongass kid

The whole point is that these committees are too important. Federal power must be rolled back.


56 posted on 08/29/2010 8:12:19 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: onyx
If the NRSC picks a side in this fight they will condemn themselves to irrelevancy for at least a generation if not an eternity.

That goes for the GOP as a whole too...

57 posted on 08/29/2010 8:17:44 AM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: onyx

There may be no party left for Sarah to redeem.

LLS


58 posted on 08/29/2010 8:26:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: screaminsunshine

Why do you think the energy committee is too important and what will Joe do to change the committee structure?


59 posted on 08/29/2010 8:28:31 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: tongass kid

Not just the energy. All of it. Too much power is centered in the Federal Government.


60 posted on 08/29/2010 8:48:44 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: onyx
23,472 ballots to process

How can this be...I read 16,000 were sent out how is now 23,472 to process?

61 posted on 08/29/2010 8:52:52 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: tongass kid

She and her father just might have a huge interest in some scheme that her committee chairmanship can steer his way through a myraid of others.
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62 posted on 08/29/2010 8:55:44 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: screaminsunshine
How will Joe, the junior senator re structure the Federal Government to reduce the power of the Government? Do you know Lisa's voting record on less Federal Government?
Can you tell me Joe's plans on how he intends to make your statements work? Has Joe ever informed the public that he intends to re structure the Senate to reduce Federal Government? Does he plan to eliminate the energy committee?
63 posted on 08/29/2010 8:56:38 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: tongass kid

Yes . I heard him today on Face the nation.


64 posted on 08/29/2010 9:03:00 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: onyx
What is the scheme? I do not have knowledge of any scheme and I do know that the chairman is a very important position to open more of Alaska to natural resource extraction. Lisa fully supports natural resource extraction and will be in a very powerful position to make that happen. On the other hand any scheme Joe as a junior Senator may have for any thing just will not have an impact in the Senate. Ak Senator MB is a very junior Senator in the majority, what has he done for Alaska? Joe will do even less.
65 posted on 08/29/2010 9:04:32 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: LibLieSlayer; Mariner; shield; Al B.; Brices Crossroads; libbylu

This might prove to be the battle to end all battles.

I have a theory I am mulling.

The number of outstanding absentee ballots grew dramatically from election night’s 16,000 to today’s 23,000+.

Lisa knew on election night that she was losing. I am thinking her team could have dumped thousands of absentees into the mail to meet the postmarks, but those mass mailings will catch the eye of the Republican Lt. Governor in charge of the election. That’s why Joe Miller and his team are raising hell and that’s why Lisa has called-in the NRSC to help her.

I could be out to lunch and wearing tight tin foil, but at this point, anything is possible, and I can’t think of another explanation for the dramatic increase in the number of absentee ballots.


66 posted on 08/29/2010 9:06:00 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: tongass kid

The Murkowski’s are crooks.


67 posted on 08/29/2010 9:07:25 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: onyx

I’m keepin’ The Faith that Joe Miller will be the winner of this primary...no matter what they pull....


68 posted on 08/29/2010 9:10:31 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: onyx

Why do you call Lisa a crook? What has she done that makes you think that she is a crook?


69 posted on 08/29/2010 9:19:07 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: onyx

I wouldn’t put anything past the NRSC, John Cornyn and the establishment. The battle for the GOP has definitely begun and sadly, my senator John Cornyn looks to be on the wrong side. I hope Texans don’t forget this.


70 posted on 08/29/2010 9:20:37 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: onyx
Lisa Murkowski is starting to STINK
71 posted on 08/29/2010 9:20:48 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: onyx

Didn’t they say they only sent out 16,000 ballots? How can there be 23,000 ballots?


72 posted on 08/29/2010 9:21:00 AM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: Al B.

This is getting UNREAL, isn;t it?

I am calling Cornyn and Hatch, tomorrow.

Orin is second in line at NRSC.


73 posted on 08/29/2010 9:26:44 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: hosepipe

Are you hearing a lot about this locally?


74 posted on 08/29/2010 9:27:22 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: tongass kid

The Murkowskis ascension in Alaska is all about favoritism, with a wide open frontier with not a whole lot of people but a vast wealth of resources they have been right on top of anything that went boom.

Though its rather harsh to say corrupt they most definitely were involved in deals and back room handshakes for decades. They do not have a high opinion of honesty by most Alaskans.

And I happen to be an Alaskan, the old royalty of Alaska is a dying breed and the people of this generation made up of the “newcomers” or cheechakos see the light, and they don’t want family generations being their representatives any more.

All the more reason Joe Miller is the best person and image of the average Alaska, he is one of us.


75 posted on 08/29/2010 9:27:56 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Joe Boucher
At this point you are right. I quit calling myself a Republican sometime ago. I am a Conservative.
Both parties have gotten so corrupt it is unreal. The Republicans decided that they should be like Democrats and Bush might as well have been a Democrat the way he governed and spewed out new Entitlement Programs.
The Day Of Reckoning is at hand politically, in November we shall see.
Personally I am not excited at the prospect of John Boehner becoming Speaker of the House, no backbone and certainly not a Conservative in my book.
76 posted on 08/29/2010 9:33:05 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: McGavin999
Didn’t they say they only sent out 16,000 ballots? How can there be 23,000 ballots?

Yes, I also thought I read that "they" (the election authority-whatever it's called) state that there were 16,000 outstanding absentee ballots!

Yet, now 23,000+ have been received!

I can only think that "someone" mass mailed thousands on election night to make the postmark after "someone" started to watch the returns and saw that "someone" way behind.

Do you have any other ideas to explain this dramatic increase?

77 posted on 08/29/2010 9:33:57 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Eye of Unk

What unethical back room transactions has Lisa performed? Has Joe informed us of these deals? Do have details or are you just slinging mud?


78 posted on 08/29/2010 9:35:49 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: onyx

The number of questionable ballots went up, plus 500 or so early votes I think. If I understand right they have been sorting and will know the totals the republicans are working with tomorrow, will count them Tuesday.


79 posted on 08/29/2010 9:38:17 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: onyx
The Division of Elections said Saturday that it had 23,472 ballots to process so far. Most are expected to be cast for the Republican primary race between Miller and Murkowski, but a portion will be for the Democratic primary instead. The tally includes 13,740 absentee votes, out of a reported 16,000 absentee ballots that had been requested. There are another 9,069 questioned ballots, some of which will be disqualified. Elections officials said there are also 663 early votes that still need to be counted

Ah, here's the answer.

80 posted on 08/29/2010 9:39:32 AM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: tongass kid

You have to have lived in Alaska at least 15 years and involved in some way with what the Murkowskis had a hand in, I’m only slinging mud off what has been splashed on me the same as if I went 4 wheelin at Jim Creek.

Sorry if it sounds vague and I understand everybody outside of Alaska wants more scoops and news I just don’t have any.


81 posted on 08/29/2010 9:39:32 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: onyx

he Division of Elections said Saturday that it had 23,472 ballots to process so far. Most are expected to be cast for the Republican primary race between Miller and Murkowski, but a portion will be for the Democratic primary instead.

The tally includes 13,740 absentee votes, out of a reported 16,000 absentee ballots that had been requested. There are another 9,069 questioned ballots, some of which will be disqualified. Elections officials said there are also 663 early votes that still need to be counted.

The Division of Elections said it will determine Monday how many of the votes will be tallied in Tuesday’s initial count.

Subsequent counts are scheduled for Sept. 3 and Sept. 8.

Read more: http://www.adn.com/2010/08/28/1429399/absentee-ballots.html#ixzz0y0tA2UFW


82 posted on 08/29/2010 9:39:54 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: McGavin999; libbylu

LOL. Thanks, McGavin999 and libbylu.
It’s right in this article that I posted for libbylu! LOL.


83 posted on 08/29/2010 9:44:44 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: onyx
Some are confused.. and suffer role reversals.. Like Joe is trying to steal the election.. Not Lisa.. Not all here are internet able.. meaning they hear rumor and mainstream TV coverage.. if any at all..

Alaskans generally are like trying to herd cats.. like FR(lol).. We keep most of our dumbocrats in Anchorage.. but the politics is getting so stinky even dimocrats are stating see "THINGS" a bit more clearly..... Who knows maybe even a few of the RINOs can be shaken out of their slumber.. and SLAPPED into lucidity..

84 posted on 08/29/2010 9:47:59 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: tongass kid
Doesn't make any difference it's time for a change. The Status Quo is over.
The Republicans have become as corrupt as the Democrats, the values of Small Government, Limited Debt,Free Booting Capitalism and our foundation on Judeo-Christian Principles has eroded and needs to be reconfirmed.
Throwing out as many Politicians that have forgotten the Founding Fathers Principles is the only course of action left and yes it Starts with Lisa Murkowski and her Ilk.
85 posted on 08/29/2010 9:48:08 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Eye of Unk
I have lived in Alaska for 65 years and have worked with our Congressional Delegation for decades. I also understand that there are Alaskans that are good at mud slinging without providing details. I have worked with Uncle Ted, Frank, Lisa, Mark and Don. Please tell the goods you have on Lisa.
86 posted on 08/29/2010 9:50:25 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Throwing out as many Politicians that have forgotten the Founding Fathers Principles is the only course of action left

Republicans AND Democrats. You said it!

87 posted on 08/29/2010 9:51:00 AM PDT by jslade (People that are easily offended OFFEND ME!)
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To: McGavin999; Al B.
There are another 9,069 questioned ballots, some of which will be disqualified.

Now that's interesting. Do you supposed that means those ballots were put aside and never counted at the polling places? Or received in the mail?

Very confusing.

88 posted on 08/29/2010 9:51:32 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: hosepipe

That’s good to hear! Thank you, dear hosepipe.

Joe Miller was on Face The Nation this morning.

He’s a wonderful conservative and a very smart and capable man.


89 posted on 08/29/2010 9:54:27 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Please tell me how Joe is going make all of this happen? Joe probably does not know where the bath rooms are in the Senate building and you think that the potential loss of a very important chair is not important? Why is this chair not important to Alaska?
90 posted on 08/29/2010 9:55:08 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: tongass kid

Are you related to Lisa? I am not from Alaska. My guess is the republican who ends up heading the chair will do just fine. They will have two years to practice up anyway, Bambi will veto anything meaningful. That is a pretty lame excuse to me.


91 posted on 08/29/2010 10:01:34 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: tongass kid; Eye of Unk

FR is not a court of law, your honor. Owing that you’re in academia, there was never a doubt in my mind that you were a Murkowski supporter. Uncomfortable truths were exposed about your friend Frank, when Sarah Palin defeated him, and now her endorsement has unseated his daughter. That is, unless Lisa can manage to swipe the election from Joe Miller.

You’re more concerned with Lisa’s chairmanship, than you are that she will not vote to repeal obamacare. Very telling.


92 posted on 08/29/2010 10:03:42 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: onyx

You may be correct... I trust no one any longer but... GOD, Sarah, Rush, Mark Levin, Michelle Malkin, Glen Beck and Michelle Bachman. I certainly no longer trust any elected republican and all dims are my enemy. I feel better knowing the actual numbers breakdown on these ballots. Have a great Sunday FRiend!

LLS


93 posted on 08/29/2010 10:04:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: tongass kid

The truth is out. You won’t have a seat at the table when Miller is sworn in. And you don’t like Sarah. Better just say that, your head of the committee crap does not fly with we who tote guns and cling to our bibles.


94 posted on 08/29/2010 10:05:36 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: LibLieSlayer

A happy and blessed Sunday to you, too, dear LLS.


95 posted on 08/29/2010 10:07:14 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: tongass kid
Well the Revolution has to start somewhere.
So your point is that the State of Alaska is better served by a Senator who will try and keep her seat by hook or crook instead of abiding by the election results?
That is like making a deal with the Devil, let me keep my corrupt people, you go somewhere else.
Change and I mean Real Change has to start somewhere, I live in Arkansas and Sen. Blanche Lincoln is Chairwoman of the Agriculture Committee, by your reasoning I should overlook her Leftie Liberalism and keep her on because she has that Committee spot.
Well no deal, if we as Conservatives are committed to acting on our principles and trying to make the change necessary to save this country and get it back on track then that means electing people that feel the same way.
Murkowski isn't one of those people. Joe Miller may or may not work out but he stands for change and a new direction and I trust that yes he will find his way to the Senate Washroom without too much trouble.
96 posted on 08/29/2010 10:10:35 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: tongass kid

If you are a Lisa Murkowski fan, what are you doing on Freerepublic. This is a conservative site. Lisa Murkowski is no conservative, and I daresay neither are you.

Oh, you wanted the goods. Try this on for size, pop:

“In July 2007, Murkowski stated she would sell back land she bought from Anchorage businessman Bob Penney, a day after a Washington watchdog group filed a Senate ethics complaint against her, alleging that Penney sold the property well below market value. The Anchorage Daily News noted, “The transaction amounted to an illegal gift worth between $70,000 and $170,000, depending on how the property was valued, according to the complaint by the National Legal and Policy Center.” According to the Associated Press, Murkowski bought the land from two developers tied to the Ted Stevens probe.

In 2008, Murkowski amended her Senate financial disclosures for 2004 through 2006, adding income of $60,000 per year from the sale of a property in 2003, and more than $40,000 a year from the sale of her “Alaska Pasta Company” in 2005.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Murkowski

The links are in the Wiki piece. Look it up. You live there (allegedly). Don’t you read your own papers?


97 posted on 08/29/2010 10:10:35 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: libbylu
Not related to Lisa. The chair of the committee is very important to Alaska. The majority of State revenue comes from oil. The present oil fields are in decline and we need to open up new wells. Only an Alaskan sitting in that chair will not trade Alaska's oil interest away to support other legislation. With out the opening of new wells, Alaska will soon suffer declining State revenue, decline in PFD, and a new State income tax. This is reality for Alaskans and Alaskans need to protect that chair. What indication do you have that the non Alaskan R that ends up sitting in the chair will do just fine? How do you know that person will not use the position to promote his/her state to the detriment of Alaskans?
98 posted on 08/29/2010 10:12:43 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: onyx

Please tell what Lisa has done that is unethical? Details please or are you just throwing mud? I did not see Frank’s name on the ballot. Did you see his name on the ballot?


99 posted on 08/29/2010 10:16:49 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: tongass kid

My respects to to for living here as long as you say, I am still called a newcomer in some respects and I have been living here full time since 1992.

I remember the day I drove my 1977 Chevie PU into Fairbanks direct from Lake Tahoe on a job offer from Jim Binckly Sr. owner and patriarch of the Riverboat Discovery sternwheeler based near Fairbanks, I was the chief engineer on a near identical vessel the “Tahoe Queen” in Lake Tahoe and I even worked on our local competitor on a smaller sternwheeler nearby, I had dreams of living in a frontier state with nothing but my ambition and faith in myself.

But it was march in Fairbanks the Discovery was on blocks, the Chena was froze over and the job offer was nothing but a whimsical ploy to a cheechako such as myself by a person who later committed suicide, facts which you might be very aware of sir.

So after sacrificing some very expensive Snapon tools I migrated to warmer and more populated Anchorage, I became a service manager at the now long gone auto service center at C street and Northern Lights, I even forget them now.

Fast forward many years, I found my niche in the concrete industry at a family owned outfit in Wasilla, I saw in the shadows the manipulations of what companies were given the concrete contracts, who was given favoritism. Fortunately our company eventually backed off trying to be the lowest bidder when our competitors who have been around longer were bidding at a loss to get the contracts.

Its still all about favoritism, especially in construction and I doubt it will ever change much, such is the nature and demands Alaska has, its boom and bust, those that win fight dirty, those that live by the rules fall behind and if they don’t think well ahead fail eventually.

Ted Stevens had his hand with Howdie Construction, they in turn inflated the jobs, made them last longer and was full of bad engineering, I am constantly reminded of their ineptness from the bad expansion joints at the overpass on the Seward Meridian overpass to the constantly breaking down paving equipment brought up from the lower 48.

The first Walmart in Wasilla was too small, they moved across the Parks Hiway, then it had to be supersized, Wasilla had phenominal growth some years ago and I have seen it up front having participated with building many a school, overpass and any other project needing concrete, and politics played its hand surely.

No, I am not going to bring up Murkowskis affiliations, as an Alaskan you should know what they are, I don’t preach to the choir.


100 posted on 08/29/2010 10:18:10 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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