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Glenn Beck rally sparks debate over crowd size
Yahoo News ^ | 8-30-10 | Michael Calderone

Posted on 08/30/2010 10:53:29 AM PDT by Justaham

Glenn Beck kicked off Monday's radio show by thanking the many attendees at Saturday's "Restoring Honor" rally in front of the Lincoln Memorial — at least 500,000 by his count. Beck said he's "still waiting on the real number" and plans to look closely during his 5 p.m. Fox News show at photos of the large crowd assembled on the National Mall.

The rally — which took place on the 47th anniversary of Martin Luther King's famous "I Have a Dream" speech at the memorial — drew a good deal of controversy, with civil rights leaders holding a countermarch. But the event largely kept free of overt political references, as Beck (a longtime scourge of the Obama White House) had pledged it would. It stressed religious themes, together with celebrations of noncontroversial virtues such as charity and national service.

Even though Beck is still tabulating a crowd estimate, it can be expected to be significantly higher than the number CBS News reported over the weekend: 87,000.

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1 posted on 08/30/2010 10:53:32 AM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

Betcha the trash left behind by Al and his homies outweighed that left behind by the Beck attendees of all races.


2 posted on 08/30/2010 10:57:11 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: Justaham

Could focusing on the crowd size be a liberal tactic rather than actually addressing the content of what was said?


3 posted on 08/30/2010 10:57:21 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: Justaham

And the MSM doesn’t understand why we don’t believe them anymore.


4 posted on 08/30/2010 10:57:32 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: Justaham
seriously... I bet someone could write a computer program in less than an hour that could count heads from aerial photos, and give a nearly exact count.

But who cares, the mall was full and over flowing on to the sides.

5 posted on 08/30/2010 10:58:00 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Justaham
Yeah, let's not talk about the subject matter.....let's talk really loudly about the crowd size.

I hate the MSM.

6 posted on 08/30/2010 10:58:15 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Justaham

Is there any report about how clean the area was left by Beck’s attendees?


7 posted on 08/30/2010 10:59:49 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Justaham
The crowd estimate CBS News reported over the weekend: 87,000.

"If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside." (directly from the Rules for Radicals playbook [Saul Alinsky])

8 posted on 08/30/2010 11:01:45 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: Justaham

Certainly, rally organizers ordered commercial satellite photos?


9 posted on 08/30/2010 11:03:55 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Justaham

If Yahoo wanted to be “fair and balanced,” it would have used the much wider photos of the event site. That photo make it appear there are only a few hundred at the event.


10 posted on 08/30/2010 11:04:37 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Justaham

Beck DID NOT estimate the crowd size to be over 500 thousand.

Early in the program, he stated that he was happy to report the media had reported over one thousand people had shown up to attend the event. There was resounding laughter, for his lampoon.

Later in the program, he said he had read a report that estimated the attendees to number over 300 thousand and another to that estimated the crowd to number over 500 thousand. He didn’t come up with his own number, and didn’t say that either of these reports were accurate.

He did say at one point that there were an awful lot of people in attendance. (paraphrased) That’s about as close to a solid number as he got from what I watched.


11 posted on 08/30/2010 11:05:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Yeah, and what about all those “racist” comments? Can the MSM produce evidence of racial hatred at this rally — of the kind talked about by all the leftist pundits beforehand?

And were there any fights, people spitting on each other, white folks beating on the black members of the audience....?

I guess not.


12 posted on 08/30/2010 11:07:53 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: chargers fan
"Could focusing on the crowd size be a liberal tactic rather than actually addressing the content of what was said?"

No. The dem media meme is that it was a "large, primarily white, crowd which gathered at the mall". I have seen the "primarily white" language in at least 6 MSM reports. Some say "overwhelminly white". That's the spin.

13 posted on 08/30/2010 11:09:10 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Justaham
...the number CBS News reported over the weekend: 87,000.

And NBC estimated the crowd at 300,000.

14 posted on 08/30/2010 11:10:02 AM PDT by Robwin
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To: Justaham

The Wall Street Journal reported on the front page the crowd size to be in the tens of thousands.


15 posted on 08/30/2010 11:13:01 AM PDT by Dacula (So long and thanks for all fish.)
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To: Justaham

Too bad that FOX News didn’t cover this amazing event! Their ratings would have been 100% more than their coverage of the President;s address this morning! Incidentally, did the Million Man March get Federal Security? Did Martin Luther King, Jr. get Federal Security? Now did the Restoring Honor Rally get Federal Security? No!
FOX News is falling into lockstep with the FED? Very bad news!


16 posted on 08/30/2010 11:13:36 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Robwin

If the Parks Department was allowed to estimate crowd sizes using the blocks formula that has served us well, we would know the actual size. But that, would be racist.


17 posted on 08/30/2010 11:14:25 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Justaham
500,000 to one million people... there is no controversy except for satan worshiping dims and media wh0res that are covering for their satanic muslim and communist overlords.

LLS

18 posted on 08/30/2010 11:16:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: DoughtyOne

And it was very evident that he was deeply touched at the amazing turnout.


19 posted on 08/30/2010 11:16:53 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Seems to me that the left sees the controversy in that anyone is even DARING TO QUESTION their propaganda.


20 posted on 08/30/2010 11:18:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Justaham

The left has nothing better to do than to debate crowd sizes.


21 posted on 08/30/2010 11:20:53 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Paperdoll

According to Park Services info the Reflecting Pool area holds 250,000. The adjacent “overflow’ field holds 250,000. Combine that and add the uncountable masses underneath the trees for shade and those massed at the Washington monument and those gathered around the Lincoln memorial and you come up with just a tad more than 87,000 !


22 posted on 08/30/2010 11:23:32 AM PDT by winged1
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To: Justaham
It's the juvenile way of looking at the ralley.

It's the size of the message, not the crowd, that counts. But liberals are always getting confused and trying to kill the messenger, so what's new.

We've heard about the tousands and thousands sitting under the trees, but what about all those who could not attend, for one reason or another.

People who are out of work, can't afford to travel to Washington, pay food, room and board, and transportation...and look at the millions that the liberal congress and obama have added to the ranks of the unemployed.

Even a lot of people who still have jobs are hanging on to them for dear life,and did not want ask for time off to go to Washington.

Thank God for the people who were able to attend, but they should never forget the millions of us who watched and listened from afar, and are totally with them in belief and spirit...and, at the polls in November.

So let the LSM writhe and moan about crowd sizes, it doesn't mean a thing; the very fact that it has them and the left all riled up and questioning such trivial nonsense is proof of the impact it had on them.

If I could wave a majic wand and say, I want all the people in the USA who are Conservative and want our country back...RIGHT NOW... Washington, DC would not be able to hold them all.

BAck in my old radio days we had a saying, "If a thousand people call in, or write, you can bet 10,000 are listening."

Watching the libs go bananas over this rally is almost as much fun as watching dozens of clowns getting out of a volkswagen.

BHO Jack


23 posted on 08/30/2010 11:27:49 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: Justaham

I look at it this way, just as I did after the 9/12 rally. The libs grossly understated the crowd size last year too. While most accounts put the size over a million, the lefties insisted it was only in the “tens of thousands.” I say let the libs stay in denial about the crowd size. It seems to give them some measure of momentary comfort in their pathetic little irrelevant lives. The truth is on our side.


24 posted on 08/30/2010 11:28:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Justaham

We were there and a white, Bell Jet Ranger helicoptor, with blue markings (not News, medical or military - just normal general aviation numbering), made two full laps of the area at two different altitudes (estimate about 1000 & 2000 feet). There were 2 photographers sitting in the open door, filming the crowd. The two passes, at different altitudes, gave them a decent view of the crowd, including thousands under the trees (seeking some shade).

That was when Glenn made the comments about “somebody is interested enough to violate the air space”. Either Glenn’s team got permission or they took the chance - either way, I think it was Glenn’s team that took the pictures and will generate a credible estimate.


25 posted on 08/30/2010 11:34:36 AM PDT by Tandem (Restore honor and the other pieces will fall into place.....)
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To: MrB

Absolutely.

LLS


26 posted on 08/30/2010 11:41:22 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Paperdoll

It sure was. I’m glad he didn’t succumb to a blubber fest though. Our young men get enough of that indoctrination in the media and at school. Let them see a man that can keep his composure once in a while too.

Thanks PaperDoll.


27 posted on 08/30/2010 11:45:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: Justaham

As I said on an earlier thread... an Ohio State football game gets over 102 thousand in their stadium. I think there were more there than that.


28 posted on 08/30/2010 11:45:35 AM PDT by Grammy
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To: Justaham
MSM: I count 10 people that were in attendance (at least that is when I stopped counting).


29 posted on 08/30/2010 11:56:49 AM PDT by BushCountry (I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparison to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
The left has nothing better to do than to debate crowd sizes.

Crowd size isn't the only "thing" where size is an issue for domoRats.

30 posted on 08/30/2010 11:58:09 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Grammy

Exactly, and at Michigan there’s over 110K ;)


31 posted on 08/30/2010 12:11:18 PM PDT by fuzzylogic
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To: Paperdoll

I was disgusted having to watch that Saturday morning CNN newstwat rolling her eyes and such... pitiful excuse for coverage.


32 posted on 08/30/2010 12:11:33 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Justaham

If our Liberal Media was around in 1863

Philadelphia Gazette November 20th 1863
Reported by: Christopher Jedediah Mathews

LINCON ADDRESS SPARKS DEBATE OVER CROWD SIZE

In his address at Gettysburg yesterday, Mr. Lincoln said, “The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here”, and Lincoln is dead-on right. The actual crowd size is highly disputed. It looked puny to me. And people were seen leaving in droves bored by the long speeches that preceded Lincoln. Lincoln’s address itself was not delivered well, it’s words poorly chosen. And without a microphone (because they haven’t been invented yet) the people in the back had a hard time hearing him.

On to more important news - In last night’s Emmy’s, “My American Cousin” lost out on an Emmy for Best New Comedy Play. Certainly this play will not survive another season, nor will Lincoln’s speech. Mark my Words.


33 posted on 08/30/2010 12:28:20 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Justaham

If there were only 87,000 at Glenn Beck’s rally, then there were only 33,000 at MLK rally.


34 posted on 08/30/2010 12:31:25 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: fuzzylogic

LOL

GBBM

(Go Bucks, beat Michigan)


35 posted on 08/30/2010 2:27:39 PM PDT by Grammy
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