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10 American Cities That Are Dead Forever
Business Insider ^ | 09/01/2010

Posted on 09/01/2010 9:31:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A city does not die when its last resident moves away. Death happens when municipalities lose the industries and vital populations that made them important cities.

The economy has evolved so much since the middle of the 20th Century that many cities that were among the largest and most vibrant in America have collapsed. Some have lost more than half of their residents. Others have lost the businesses that made them important centers of finance, manufacturing, and commerce.

Most of America’s Ten Dead Cities were once major manufacturing hubs and others were important ports or financial services centers. The downfall of one city, New Orleans, began in the 1970s, but was accelerated by Hurricane Katrina.

Notably, the rise of inexpensive manufacturing in Japan destroyed the ability of the industrial cities on this list to effectively compete in the global marketplace. Foreign business activity and US government policy were two of the three major blows that caused the downfall of these cities. The third was the labor movement and its demands for higher compensation which ballooned the costs of manufacturing in many of these cities as well.

24/7 Wall St. looked at a number of sources in order to select the list. One was the US Census Bureau’s list of largest cities by population by decade from 1950 to 2000 with estimates for 2007. Detroit, for example, had 1.9 million people in 1950 and was the fifth largest city in the nation. By 2000, the figure was 951,000. The city was not even on the top ten list in 2007.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americancities; dead; detroit; mi; obamnomics; progressivism; unionskilledthem
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To: Leisler
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Sorry ... that AIN'T a photo of Buffalo ...


It's the New Awlin's Lower Ninth Ward ... PRE-KATRINA !!!!!


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251 posted on 09/01/2010 7:52:59 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Cheetahcat

“Who the hell built up the Japanese after WW11”

Dang! I wasn’t alive yet for 1 and 2.

Then I go and miss 3 through 11! I must have been sleeping or on vacation or something.


252 posted on 09/01/2010 8:05:38 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nabber

“With all due respect to northern Freepers,”

Sometimes, when I read something that starts off with “with all due respect” it means that some ignorant flaming asshole is about to speak. Sometimes.


253 posted on 09/01/2010 8:13:11 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Well, Eastman Kodak and Bausch and Lomb are still there”

EK at one time employed over 20,000 people in Rochester. B&L was once a major employer with many product lines being manufactured there, as well as R&D and offices. Now EK has what, maybe 8,000 employees left, and B&L has some office workers.

Rochester may not be dead, but it is code blue. The ER docs just haven’t quit pumping on its chest quite yet.

Too bad. The surrounding area is wonderful country, great scenery, recreation, friendly folks, lakes, hills, valleys, and unfortunately all still in the state of NY so there is little economic activity left.

I love it here. (in the sticks outside of Rochester) I hate that it is in NY.


254 posted on 09/01/2010 8:28:57 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: longtermmemmory

By trying to force people together that wanted nothing to do with each other, these dim-witted liberal judges only worsened the situation. The inner-cities are like war zones and the schools are even worse. Little wonder many cities are dying.

Thanks for the 4-1-1.


255 posted on 09/01/2010 8:43:53 PM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: haroldeveryman
I'm not discussing the minute details of 1861-1865; I'm putting forward the idea that something on that scale would go a long way into fixing many of today's problems.
256 posted on 09/01/2010 8:44:14 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Vote McCarthy (MA-6)/Bielat (MA-4). MA-4 is Bwaney's district.)
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To: Nik Naym

“Who the hell built up the Japanese after WW11”

Dang! I wasn’t alive yet for 1 and 2.

Then I go and miss 3 through 11! I must have been sleeping or on vacation or something.”

Sorry Ace You lose for being the grammar queen!


257 posted on 09/01/2010 9:40:49 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: SeekAndFind
....is there any reason why New York would still be the financial capital of the USA in the future ? I am already beginning to see lots of financial firms move their operations to other states.

Or countries.

The office towers going up on the Jersey side of the Hudson should be a huge clue-by-four to the City leadership wrangling and wangling and letting Moslems interfere in redevelopment of the World Trade Center, that they'd better get off their butts and do something about their situation.

Nobody wanted to rebuild the WTC towers because they supposedly had so many occupancy problems in the first place, but the people saying that stuff, can't explain why New York firms are building high-rise office space over in Jersey.

258 posted on 09/01/2010 10:43:12 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: anymouse
Galveston has been dying for decades, long before hurricane Ike.

Well, about 1/4 of their citizenry died in the space of six hours one Saturday afternoon in 1900. That didn't help.

It's still an anomaly on this list because a) it wasn't really an industrial city or "big" city in 1950 -- third tier city among the country's big towns. And b) Houston had already basically replaced it as a port city before 1950.

The 1900 hurricane and Houston's building the Ship Channel in the 1920's pretty much bypassed Galveston, which was Texas's dominant dockland and entrepot before the 1900 storm. If Galveston's city fathers had built the seawall they'd been talking about since the 1874 Indianola storm, they'd have been okay in 1900, and then who knows where the development would have gone in the 1920's.

The 1900 storm was so bad, that in the 1960's the city's historians were guessing they might have lost as many as 6000 people, as opposed to the first-pass number of 3500 or so worked up by city fathers polling people who'd been involved with body recovery and disposal. By 1999, researchers had upped the toll to over 9,000 with work still continuing but finally winding down. So many people died in the storm, it took 100 years' careful work to figure out just a good, solid guesstimate.

259 posted on 09/01/2010 10:58:18 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: outpostinmass2

Boston is going to take a hit as education diversifies.


260 posted on 09/01/2010 11:08:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Jim Scott

Sad, hartford was considered a Jewel of a city by Samuel Clemmons at the turn of the 20th century. It now needs a thorough cleaning and criminals locked up.


261 posted on 09/01/2010 11:10:50 PM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Leisler
Now we don’t seem able to build much, nor maintain what we have. How can that be .....

Because nothing, but nothing, beats the business appeal of dirt-cheap, rock-bottom labor.

Beating people to death in their pay packets and driving them down the ladder of existence is one of the biggest, fattest, margin-plumpingest, ego-chuffingest perks available in the world of business. It's beyond catnip. It's just the cat's ass and the bee's knees. You will never, ever get businessmen to leave that alone, no more than you'll stop old Chinese fat guys from buying girls' virginities, rhino horns, and tiger bones.

Screwing your employees is corner-office Viagra. A lot of office Napoleons would tip out to management and work for free.

262 posted on 09/01/2010 11:10:50 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: GOPsterinMA

“I’m putting forward the idea that something on that scale would go a long way into fixing many of today’s problems. “

Thanks for the reply. Sorry if I seemed argumentative. I wasn’t sure where you were coming from. This was a pretty wild thread. Lots of debating going on.


263 posted on 09/02/2010 1:19:11 AM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Lombard street, Buffalo

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/nyregion/13vacant.html


264 posted on 09/02/2010 4:35:46 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: SeekAndFind

Heres a link to a map I got off FreeRepublic

http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/04/migration-moving-wealthy-interactive-counties-map.html

Map: Where Americans Are Moving
Jon Bruner
More than 10 million Americans moved from one county to another during 2008. The map below visualizes those moves. Click on any county to see comings and goings: black lines indicate net inward movement, red lines net outward movement.


265 posted on 09/02/2010 6:22:15 AM PDT by jokar (The Church age is the only age man will be able to glorify Christ, http://www.basictraining.org/)
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To: Nik Naym

Sometimes you’re right, sometimes you’re wrong...


266 posted on 09/02/2010 6:23:09 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: SeekAndFind
I don’t think the writer of the article denies that Galveston is a tourist town.

His explanation of the town’s demise is as follows:

The cause of Galveston’s demise is unique. It had become something of the Sodom and Gomorrah of the southern US. There was a large gambling industry there, some of it illegal, which was controlled by criminals.

In the late 1950s,Texas state authorities successfully attacked local organized crime. The regulated tourist trade could not replace the illegal business.

Galveston’s port and hospitality industries had begun to improve, but where trampled by the effects of Hurricane Ike in 2008. The event destroyed a large part of the city’s tax base, and set back the tourism industry once again.

I don't think the author understands Galveston. Here is a Houston Chronicle article written a year after Ike: Link. From that link:

... slowly healing, but it may take a decade to fully recover.

About 75 percent of Galveston's businesses are back, and officials say those that left are being replaced by new enterprises.

Tourism, the island's lifeblood, has rebounded, although it's suffering from the depressed national economy.

The city's Hotel Occupancy Tax is down an average of 31 percent this year, reflecting the lower room rates. Gaskins said nationally hotel occupancy rates are down 40 percent, but the occupancy rate has averaged about 80 percent in Galveston. Any effect Ike had on tourism has disappeared by now, Schultz said. “I don't think there is anything that has to do with Ike,” he said.

I gather Colonel Bubbies on the Strand is open. Link. Why else would tourists come to Galveston?

267 posted on 09/02/2010 8:50:00 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: haroldeveryman

No problem! Debate is good!


268 posted on 09/02/2010 8:52:36 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Vote McCarthy (MA-6)/Bielat (MA-4). MA-4 is Bwaney's district.)
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To: Cheetahcat

“Sorry Ace You lose for being the grammar queen!”

Nah. You lose for not having a sense of humor.


269 posted on 09/02/2010 12:21:08 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nik Naym

“Sorry Ace You lose for being the grammar queen!”

Nah. You lose for not having a sense of humor.”

Try this the next time \s So I will not confuse you with the sissies. Regards.


270 posted on 09/02/2010 12:36:44 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: SeekAndFind

Add Harrisburg, PA. to the list. Since they elected a black female mayor, they are sinking faster than the Titanic!


271 posted on 09/02/2010 12:38:53 PM PDT by Palladin (Remember Lepanto--Sink the Mosque!)
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To: Cheetahcat

“Try this the next time \s So I will not confuse you with the sissies. Regards.”

Maybe I should have used \h ?

Anyways, my tag line explains it all.

Cheers!


272 posted on 09/02/2010 6:05:03 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nabber

“Sometimes you’re right, sometimes you’re wrong...”

You’re right.


273 posted on 09/02/2010 6:08:55 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nik Naym

“Try this the next time \s So I will not confuse you with the sissies. Regards.”

Maybe I should have used \h ?

Anyways, my tag line explains it all.

Cheers!”

That is cool.


274 posted on 09/02/2010 6:28:34 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why isn’t Bridgeport CT on the list?


275 posted on 09/05/2010 7:06:14 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: haroldeveryman
Another factor that came as a surprise: a shortage of certain job skills and technical ability in the US.

Yup, and this morning watching the news I heard that the next industry Hussain is attacking is private tech schools.
Gee, if I were the cynical type I'd almost think Hussain wants the country to fail.

276 posted on 09/05/2010 7:27:06 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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