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Obama to Propose Massive Tax Breaks for Businesses to Invest in Growth
Foxnews.com ^ | 9/6/2010 | Unknown

Posted on 09/06/2010 7:27:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

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To: Blood of Tyrants

Hey idiot: how about the Bush Cuts? I’m going to lose 2k out of pocket when those expire.


41 posted on 09/06/2010 8:10:26 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Moonman62
There's an older Mercantilist theory that if you build capacity (with no assumptions about increased productivity) then you will sell more, and make higher profits.

Mercantilism has been pretty well abandoned as an economic doctrine particularly since piling up unsaleable stuff has so many times proved to be a losing strategy!

If you increase productivity and make stuff cheaper, you will probably need fewer employees, yet the people still earning a living somewhere will have more disposable income because, lo and behold, they can buy stuff cheaper.

The unemployed remain unemployed under all these scenarios.

If you think there's still some fire in Mercantilism fire away ~

42 posted on 09/06/2010 8:12:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ronin

And I could easily write the script for the GOP to counter this.

First, tell Obama to bring these temporary tax cuts on and pledge to pass them, saying that they will take ANY tax cuts they can get, but explain why it won’t work.


43 posted on 09/06/2010 8:12:54 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Well, it also allows 100% deduction on labor, which is usually a large portion of capital investments. Normally, when you take a $5 million deduction (a deduction off your gross), you only get 36% (or whatever your tax rate is) off your taxes.

I think that this is different as it allows you to take ALL of the capital costs off your taxes.


44 posted on 09/06/2010 8:19:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"If you are struggling to survive, you aren’t going to put out more money for capital projects just because it is deductible."

I agree wholeheartedly.

However, not ALL businesses are struggling to survive, even now. Some have adapted to the new reality and are doing OK.

45 posted on 09/06/2010 8:22:10 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: muawiyah
Hmm, smart phone capacity ~ ? Are you going to build some of that here? Ask a relevant question.

Has the smartphone market added to our GDP or not? Has it created American jobs or not?

46 posted on 09/06/2010 8:24:09 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: muawiyah
If you think there's still some fire in Mercantilism fire away ~

I'm not talking about any particular "ism."

47 posted on 09/06/2010 8:25:08 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Sorry Obie, but GAAP ain't just that space between your ears.

I'm not an accountant, but I am an accounting student.

Aren't capital investments already fully tax deductible?

48 posted on 09/06/2010 8:26:52 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I couldn't tell from the story which were tax credits and which were tax deductions. I wouldn't put it past Obama and gang to count postponing when taxes are paid as a "tax cut" to brag about how they are helping businesses.
49 posted on 09/06/2010 8:29:50 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Just somethin’ that sounds good....we’ve all heard in before...still NO jobs...tankin’ economy....should of thought through the hideous actions you took against Americans and America months ago...the chickens have come home to roost...sucker...


50 posted on 09/06/2010 8:31:37 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That will really energize his radical voter base for the elections [/s].


51 posted on 09/06/2010 8:32:23 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You know the 2,000 page bill will mandate a 100% writeoff for only “100% green” infrastructure and projects


52 posted on 09/06/2010 8:34:40 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Whoopp de doo. No economic growth = no profits = no business taxes to offset with these brilliant deductions.


53 posted on 09/06/2010 8:36:19 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

A better answer than I could give...
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalexpenditure.asp


54 posted on 09/06/2010 8:37:14 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Without a continuation of the Bush tax cuts consumers will have even less money to buy the products of Obama’s envisioned expansion. This scam is what Obama will offer in exchange for allowing the cuts in expire in January.
55 posted on 09/06/2010 8:39:26 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: KarlInOhio

He already claimed that reducing your withholding while keeping the tax tables the same as a “tax cut”.


56 posted on 09/06/2010 8:40:18 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

He told the union masses that Republicans said “no” to middle class tax cuts. Hah. Even as he prepares to let those tax cuts expire...


57 posted on 09/06/2010 8:42:47 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Capital investments are depreciated over a number of years according to what is purchased & the amount.

I don’t trust Obama, et al, the devil is usually in the details.


58 posted on 09/06/2010 9:11:18 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Obama is going back to Lenin who was forced to relax state control in the early days of the USSR to spur free enterprise because the whole country was tanking under the reins of communism. It was strictly a temporary move. Lenin died and along came Stalin. 30-40 million people died is his forced centralization and collectivization.

No doubt 0 considers Stalin an historic hero but considers Vladimir Ilyich Lenin an example in temporal practicality.


59 posted on 09/06/2010 9:23:43 PM PDT by downtownconservative (Imam Obama has now noticed he has no clothes. His response? "That infidel Bush stole my clothes".)
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To: ReformedBeckite

True that...Why do they constantly talk of “targeted” tax cuts?? Almost every Congress person has never held a private sector job yet they are attempting to micromanage society by picking winners and losers in the business game. Sheer geniuses...they got the stimulus wrong, unemployment wrong. They are the party of WRONG!!!


60 posted on 09/06/2010 9:26:08 PM PDT by Semperfiwife (This is the "Ba-roke" era.)
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