Skip to comments.Soldiers "kill team" which allegedly murdered at random and collected fingers as trophies
Posted on 09/09/2010 3:46:45 AM PDT by Cardhu
Twelve American soldiers face charges over a secret "kill team" that allegedly blew up and shot Afghan civilians at random and collected their fingers as trophies.
Five of the soldiers are charged with murdering three Afghan men who were allegedly killed for sport in separate attacks this year. Seven others are accused of covering up the killings and assaulting a recruit who exposed the murders when he reported other abuses, including members of the unit smoking hashish stolen from civilians.
In one of the most serious accusations of war crimes to emerge from the Afghan conflict, the killings are alleged to have been carried out by members of a Stryker infantry brigade based in Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan.
According to investigators and legal documents, discussion of killing Afghan civilians began after the arrival of Staff Sergeant Calvin Gibbs at forward operating base Ramrod last November. Other soldiers told the army's criminal investigation command that Gibbs boasted of the things he got away with while serving in Iraq and said how easy it would be to "toss a grenade at someone and kill them".
One soldier said he believed Gibbs was "feeling out the platoon".
Investigators said Gibbs, 25, hatched a plan with another soldier, Jeremy Morlock, 22, and other members of the unit to form a "kill team". While on patrol over the following months they allegedly killed at least three Afghan civilians. According to the charge sheet, the first target was Gul Mudin, who was killed "by means of throwing a fragmentary grenade at him and shooting him with a rifle", when the patrol entered the village of La Mohammed Kalay in January.
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This story sounds like bullshit
as an active soldier, ill be the first to say: if this is true, we need to punish these guys to the maximum extent possible.
this is a disgrace.
Hmmm..sounds like another Leftist military fantasy...just in time for the elections.
> Hmmm..sounds like another Leftist military fantasy...just in time for the elections.
Mo, I think you’ve nailed it.
The Guardian is the most left leaning newspaper in the UK.
Just another leftist antiwar fantasy wet dream put to paper without any corroboration or evidence.
Our leftist, socialist rags from the Ministry of Propaganda, laughing known as “the press” are pretty much as leftist as any in the world.
They would have been all over this.
The author’s been watching too many Oliver Stone war films.
What the hell?
Our soldiers only do this under republican presidents.
So you are claiming this news paper just made this whole story up?
The story cites the existence of a charge sheet which is a military indictment or affidavit of probable cause. Which I’m sure would be easy to confirm if it infact does not exist. And I’m sure the army would gladly go on record refuting this if infact it is all a lie.
Who uses this term in the military? It´s ¨weapon¨, or M-4, etc. This story deserves more scrutiny.
I bet the recruit fingered them.
It is in the Army Times
When I was in the military, the “Times” - Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times, etc., though a private enterprise, was pretty much a propaganda arm of the military establishment and everything published had to be taken with a large grain of salt. Is this still the case?
Considering what I overhead USMC in Iraq bragging about, no BS at all.
I hate to say it but if you google it, it’s everywhere.
That doesn’t mean it has one whit more validity. You can Google conspiracy theories all day long and it doesn’t make them any more true.
This has the whiff of Vietnam-era leftist fantasies.
There has been too much of this accuse and defame first and no one will notice the debunking of it all later.
Still an AP (Associated Propagandists) story, of you bother to look closely.
[The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Aug 27, 2010 8:20:10 EDT]
Yes, I am. They have done it before, and they will do it again.
Why would the local newspaper of one of the soldiers print it?
It was covered in some, and was on CBS’s website.
I guess the dad of one of the soldiers charged is of no validity either.
This story will do far more damage than someone burning the Koran.
Let's see...... where have I seen this before? A PLATOON of soldiers, some of whom get 'high', lose their cool and torch a village, killing the 'citizens'?
Or just finished watching PLATOON.
to an active soldier like you — I salute you! God bless you and keep you safe
Allegedly? I saw this on mil.com, I think it was an AP story. No idea if these men did it but if they did, that’s danged lame and creepy. If they didn’t well this article 32(??) will most probably end their careers anyway whether they win the case or not.
In ancient Egypt, First Dynasty, when ever they did a KIA count they cut off the uncircumcised penises of the dead foes and presented them to the Commander as a head count(sic).
I was with A/2/35, Stone is an asshole.
In a controversial Guardian special report published in 2006, McGreal, who has covered both apartheid South Africa and Israel in his career, compared the two and alleged numerous similarities, citing the United States Department of State's annual human rights report for 1999. Among other claims, McGreal alleged that Israel's Population Registration Act is similar to an apartheid era South African Act of the same name. The latter categorized South Africans according to racial definitions in order to determine who could live in what land. McGreal alleges that the Israeli act "serves a similar purpose by distinguishing between nationality and citizenship. Arabs and Jews alike can be citizens, but each is assigned a separate 'nationality' marked on identity cards(either spelled out or, more recently, in a numeric code), in effect determining where they are permitted to live, access to some government welfare programmes, and how they are likely to be treated by civil servants and policemen."
Extensive responses to McGreal's allegations were offered by several media watchdog organizations, including the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America, the Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre,  Engage, and Honest Reporting, which viewed his claims as false and defamatory. The Guardian's letters editor reported that "more than 100 letters on the subject had been directed at the page, with roughly three endorsing the decision to deal with the subject, to every two against, most of the latter rejecting any apartheid analogy." 
Seven others are accused of covering up the killings and assaulting a recruit who exposed the murders when he reported other abuses, including members of the unit smoking hashish stolen from civilians.
A little bit of trivia I ran across, we like to talk about the past but sometimes we ignore the details.
I agree and God bless you for serving, but slander is a favorite tool of the Left and of Islamic radicals. I’d give the odds of this being based on truthful testimony less than 25%, and people will chew me out for not making the odds even lower.
The McGreal leopard cannot change its spots
From his attempts to smear the Israeli government for their alleged collaboration with South Africa on nuclear warheads to his latest egregious distortions of Pamela Gellers motives for her opposition to the mosque near Ground Zero, the Guardians Chris McGreals animus towards Israel and Jews remains unchanged and is a direct reflection of the divorced-from-reality Guardian World View and the twisting of facts to suit its preconceived conclusions. Let us examine ... [snip]