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Gainesville minister: Quran burning canceled; ground zero mosque will move
The Tampa Tribune / The Associated Press ^ | September 9, 2010 | Ray Reyes and The Associated Press

Posted on 09/09/2010 1:43:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

GAINESVILLE - FBI agents visited today with a minister of a small Florida church that plans to burn the Quran on Sept. 11, as public safety became a paramount concern and President Barack Obama added his voice to the chorus of opposition. Elsewhere, hundreds of angry Afghans burned an American flag and chanted "Death to the Christians" to protest the planned burning of Islam's holiest text. Obama urged the Rev. Terry Jones to "listen to those better angels" and call off his plan.(continued)

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Their committing violence in response to this kind of proves his point, unfortunately. I guess freedom of speech and religion is for the Ground Zero Mosque crew, Jeremiah Wright, the Nation of Islam and Al Sharpton, not sad white guys with weird moustaches.
1 posted on 09/09/2010 1:43:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Burning a book doesn't make people violent, it exposes the violence that is already there.
2 posted on 09/09/2010 1:46:23 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (If Obama was the answer---that must have been one stupid question.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When will Obama send his FBI thugs out to visit the Imam who wants to build a mosque at the 9-11 Site?


3 posted on 09/09/2010 1:46:46 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many FBI agents visited Imam Rauf, eh?


4 posted on 09/09/2010 1:47:12 PM PDT by snarkbait (<<For Rent>>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gainesville police have assigned an officer to stay on church grounds for most of the day today. The officer is writing down the names of people entering church grounds along with license plate numbers.

... and if the police did that at a mosque...

5 posted on 09/09/2010 1:47:30 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess his mistake it that he never joined the Black Panthers.


6 posted on 09/09/2010 1:47:44 PM PDT by 444Flyer (We are the end of the line.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should come to my house, too, then. I’m drawing funny cartoons!


7 posted on 09/09/2010 1:47:53 PM PDT by fullchroma
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Well, Muzzies have been burning bibles nonstop and burning churches, crucifying Christians in Africa literally, and bombing Jews since the creation of Israel. I for one think that it’s better for the Muzzies that we are burning Korans instead of THEM.


8 posted on 09/09/2010 1:48:02 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After 9/11 and every terrorist attack since we are told that Islam is a religion of peace, a small percentage are radicals and we shouldn’t judge a billion people by the actions of a few. Yet every free world leader and even folks like Hannity are crapping themselves over fears of Muslim reaction to a parish of less than 50 members, begging them not to do it. Where is the reciprocity? Why the chants of “Death To America” over the actions of a small group of people? How is it that entire nations go crazy over the actions of a few?

The hypocrisy is mind-boggling. It also makes that “Let Freedom Ring” theme song on Hannity’s show sound pretty hollow as he uses his program as a one-sided begathon for tolerance.


9 posted on 09/09/2010 1:48:03 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The intimidation tactics are just starting.

“So Reverend, nice church you got here. Ever been to Waco, Texas? Great town, Waco. Those your kids?”

10 posted on 09/09/2010 1:49:00 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: tennmountainman

Obama is a pant load, his angel is Wright the American hater.


11 posted on 09/09/2010 1:50:21 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rarely do we see the defense of Christianity on the level of this effort to intimidate free speech.


12 posted on 09/09/2010 1:50:35 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Fox News is about 20% Saudi-owned, IIRC.


13 posted on 09/09/2010 1:50:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: Nachum

I’ve been watching to see how this would play out.


14 posted on 09/09/2010 1:51:14 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He should tell everyone that he is going to burn a US flag instead. And then cover a pile of Korans with it and some accelerants and burn away!


15 posted on 09/09/2010 1:51:40 PM PDT by magslinger ('This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Burn, baby, burn!!!!!!!!!!

He is exactly proving their totalitarian violent stance against this country. They didn’t need an excuse or provocation. This provocation helps draw out and display what they’re really about.

Good for him. Let the matches be lit.

What’s sickening is the candy-assed response from our elected officials/government and many voices from pundits, religious leaders, the bureaucratic elite and even our military. They show fear and weakness to our enemy through their desire to squelch this man’s political speech in favor of the enemy.


16 posted on 09/09/2010 1:52:34 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
CNN has an online poll asking if this pastor has a first amendment right to burn the quran, and 22% say no. So much for almost a quarter of Americans having even a basic grasp of the constitution. America is done and just waiting for someone to stick a fork is us. The liberals have undermined the nation too far to save it...they have successfully destroyed the nation.
17 posted on 09/09/2010 1:52:54 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WACO II

Did they bring tanks?


18 posted on 09/09/2010 1:52:57 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What really is appalling is the great uproar from the leftist scum who has the audacity to defend burning the American flag and wanted every pic and detail of Abu Ghraib and are ok with leaks regarding national security. This needs to be just as much about THEM as this minister. The FBI visiting him was over the top, but what do you expect from these thugs who rule with hypocrisy.


19 posted on 09/09/2010 1:53:10 PM PDT by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee. Wonder what they found? Matches? A lighter?


20 posted on 09/09/2010 1:53:35 PM PDT by albie
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To: Gabrial

Were they men in black?


21 posted on 09/09/2010 1:53:36 PM PDT by aeonspromise
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
"The hypocrisy is mind-boggling. It also makes that “Let Freedom Ring” theme song on Hannity’s show sound pretty hollow as he uses his program as a one-sided begathon for tolerance."

LOL...today Hannity is decrying appeasement with regards to the Ground Zero Mosque.

22 posted on 09/09/2010 1:54:07 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: chilltherats

Let’s all draw Mo-ham-ed and post it to Facebook, MySpace, blogs, etc.


23 posted on 09/09/2010 1:54:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: 6SJ7
The officer is writing down the names of people entering church grounds along with license plate numbers.

WHAT?!

24 posted on 09/09/2010 1:55:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Any chants of death to America in America? Hmmm? Hmmm?
That would be OK probably...We need to take our country back in Nov..


25 posted on 09/09/2010 1:55:15 PM PDT by aeonspromise
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well done, its about time the FBI got off their butts and did some crime fighting.
Now let me see if I understand. It is perfectly legal to burn a Koran, if it's your Koran. I go to Borders and lay out $10.00 for a paperback edition of God speaking to Man, kill the unbelievers and you will inherit the world(ie. our stuff).
I take my purchase home and announce I am going to burn this baby in my Weber grill. The FBI arrives to talk to me.
Wow, talk about a Dhimmi county.
26 posted on 09/09/2010 1:56:05 PM PDT by Hans
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the FBI has no business in this case period.


27 posted on 09/09/2010 1:56:28 PM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
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To: 6SJ7

Religious profiling and government intimidation.

It’s too bad this church doesn’t have some money. If they were well-funded like leftist groups and the muzzies are, they’d have been able to get an injunction against the cops by about 10am this morning.


28 posted on 09/09/2010 1:56:32 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FBI agents visit Gainesville minister...

Well, at least they did not shoot him...yet...

29 posted on 09/09/2010 1:56:32 PM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: PA-RIVER

Obama’s Waco.

I’m lovin it.


30 posted on 09/09/2010 1:56:54 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Hannity’s muslim ladies are on fire!


31 posted on 09/09/2010 1:56:54 PM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I haven’t watched Hannity the last few days. Are you telling me that he’s openly siding with zero, etc., against this church burning the koran?


32 posted on 09/09/2010 1:59:00 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: highlander_UW

Educate people and take the country back.... never give up...


33 posted on 09/09/2010 1:59:33 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Our nation has a choice, Vote or Die.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; STARWISE; maggief; onyx; hoosiermama; Liz; All

“The FBI spent about a half hour talking with Jones, but church spokesman Wayne Sapp would not disclose what they discussed. Agents leaving the church wouldn’t talk to an Associated Press reporter.

Jones said earlier this week that agents have visited him twice since he announced his plans in July, the last visit about two weeks ago.”

Hmmmmmmm.......
Does anyone know who was the first news organization or blog to give this story legs on a national scale? Does anyone else find it odd that this nobody preacher with 30 followers was suddenly thrust into the national spotlight right before the 911 anniversary and the November election?

Did the WH tip off the media to this story? Apparently the FBI knew about this book burning way back in July!! Something smells to high heaven with this whole thing.


34 posted on 09/09/2010 2:00:31 PM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: highlander_UW

Reality sucks. Sad to have to live through watching the downfall of the United States and 0bama and those traitorous btards that make up the criminal organization known as the Demonrat party will have their place in history as the culprits and are deserving of quite a reception when they take their last breaths from all those who sacrificed for this country.


35 posted on 09/09/2010 2:00:42 PM PDT by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

nail on head.
they say a mosque being built near where 3000 died.
Cross in piss.
Crap on a painting of the virgin Mary.
Burning flags.
Burning Bibles
are all 1st amendment rights.
Killing non muslims and we’re told to understand them and that they are small group.
but burning a koran is wrong and should not be happening.

I hope this pastor says I had no intention to burning it but wanted to make a point and show the hypocrisy of the white house, the far left and islam.

They muslims acted violently and then they say they’re a religion of peace.

As for Hannity I’ve had it with him, the man is a coward who cannot talk about social issues like the homosexual agenda, abortion etc, tells a soldier yesterday on the radio that we should not provoke them and that this will endanger our troops.

if Hannity had served and been in a war like the soldier he was talking to then he would know that we’re in a war and we’re already in danger.


36 posted on 09/09/2010 2:00:48 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: magslinger

The flag? I think not. He should make a show of wrapping the koran in bacon strips before he sets fire to it.


37 posted on 09/09/2010 2:00:51 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Fox News is about 20% Saudi-owned, IIRC.”

I wish I had the post to reference, but no Fox isn’t owned by anymore than about 6% IIRC. I believe it slightly less than 6% actually, but no more than.


38 posted on 09/09/2010 2:00:53 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Saudis have a Religion Police,and now it appears, so do we! All hail Hope & Change!
39 posted on 09/09/2010 2:00:55 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Gus the Scotty dog likes cheese!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Eat Mo-Ham, Eat M0-Chicken and Eat Mo-Pork!


40 posted on 09/09/2010 2:02:26 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: tennmountainman

Good Point!

So, when is the PC General Petreaus, Secretary of State Clinton, and Obama going to condemn the Afghan muzzies for shouting “Death to Christians” and burning an American flag?

And what the hell is a cop doing gathering people’s names and license plate numbers at the Gainesville church?

And when is the FBI going to start visiting all these radical imams who are preaching hatred in the mosques?


41 posted on 09/09/2010 2:02:55 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The rallying cry of American patriots.....REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I do not advocate “incitement” of this kind due to the very real dangers to the lives of Americans all over the world..... but the simple fact that there are such pervasive fears about the possible/likely effects of such an act shows what we are dealing with. Islam the “religion of peace” (sic) breeds vast numbers of followers who will slit our throats for any reason or no reason, for the mere “provocation” of some obscure nobody in Florida.

Do so-called “leaders” in Islam struggle to get their followers to stop burning US flags to prevent ordinary Americans from going on killing sprees against Muslims? I didn’t think so.


42 posted on 09/09/2010 2:03:15 PM PDT by Enchante ("The great enemy of clear language is insincerity." -- George Orwell --)
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To: Typical_Whitey
Educate people and take the country back.... never give up...

I'm not giving up, I'll continue to fight to the end...but I'm also a realist and I'm convinced the liberals have succeeded in destroying the nation. We are saddled with 2 parties, one evil the other stupid...the stupid party is too late to stop the evil party.

43 posted on 09/09/2010 2:03:24 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

‘..we are told that Islam is a religion of peace, a small percentage are radicals and we shouldn’t judge a billion people by the actions of a few....’

exactly. I hope the Minister does not go throught with this....2 wrongs don’t make a right. BUT, where are the leaders asking the Afghan people to stop the anti-American, anti-Christian protests because they shouldn’t judge all Americans or all Christians by the actions of a few?? Did I miss that....?? Has any member of the media asked this question? Why is the media covering this...?


44 posted on 09/09/2010 2:03:33 PM PDT by 4integrity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IRS visits are probably not far behind.


45 posted on 09/09/2010 2:03:38 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: highlander_UW

That’s about the same number of “strongly approves” for Zero. It tells me that 80% of the country understands that he has a right to do this.


46 posted on 09/09/2010 2:03:48 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: Joe 6-pack

Hannity is a coward who will not talk about homosexuals video of folsom fair etc and their agenda, abortion or says we should not provoke muslims.

He sounds like a broken record with his stupid Clinton impression, his dead fish comments and talks about the same issues for weeks.
Then he has for his guest the miserable think he’s tough Beckel


47 posted on 09/09/2010 2:04:35 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: b4its2late

Or maybe some New Black Panthers w/night sticks?


48 posted on 09/09/2010 2:05:22 PM PDT by Clioman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Certainly the aclu is representing thew Rev. Right?


49 posted on 09/09/2010 2:05:31 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: chilltherats

“....they show fear and weakness to our enemies...”

Excellent point.

The muslims respect strength....they laugh at and exploit weakness. Petreaus of all people should know that, but apparently not. The same goes for our other so-called leaders.


50 posted on 09/09/2010 2:05:54 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The rallying cry of American patriots.....REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!)
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