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The 3,000-Mile Oil Change Is Pretty Much History
New York Times ^ | Sept 10, 2010 | Alina Tugend

Posted on 09/12/2010 9:59:05 AM PDT by posterchild

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To: posterchild

I have known several guys through the years who never changed, just added oil.

One of them had one of those toilet-paper roll filters.

Another one had one of those Marvel Mystery Oil injectors under the hood—al of them did OK!

Myself, I haven’t gotten close (knowingly) to a doctor since I retired USMC in ‘72—a chiropractor friend of mine agrees this is why I’m still in one piece.

Makes some folks wonder—not me.


21 posted on 09/12/2010 10:14:26 AM PDT by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, Our 'Novembers' Are Gone,,,So Few Can "grok" It.)
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To: posterchild

I skimmed the article, looking to see if they were talking about SYNTHETIC oils. Thaey did not seem to make that distinction.

That said, it appears this is driven by some greenie California Waste organization (rolling eyes). So this revolutionary new guideline, may be just another save the planet, wipe you ass with a single sheet of TP, bit of environmental horse dung.


22 posted on 09/12/2010 10:14:46 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: EGPWS

My 84 Accord called for 7500


23 posted on 09/12/2010 10:15:03 AM PDT by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: posterchild

No. Change the oil once it tastes like burned rubber.


24 posted on 09/12/2010 10:15:56 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: HerrBlucher

I run the F350 on 6K, heavy duty service, changes, although I doubt I’ve carried anywhere near a half ton on the diesel beast.

Her Explorer goes in every 3K.

I too learned in the (very) old days, but I figure that it’s cheap insurance.


25 posted on 09/12/2010 10:18:07 AM PDT by benewton (I)
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To: urtax$@work

Thought it was an interesting topic however over the past couple decades I generally have been disabused of the idea that I can expect journalists to know what they are writing about.


26 posted on 09/12/2010 10:18:17 AM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: Glenn
I don't drive many miles so I am sticking to the four seasons change schedule regardless of miles.

I'm with you on that one.

One thing that will NEVER hurt a car is changing the oil and filter too often, especially if you live in a dusty environment like Vegas.

Goes for air filters too.

27 posted on 09/12/2010 10:18:24 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (People I know have papers for their mongrels.)
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To: posterchild

I was told by a mechanic once, that these new synthetics would last longer than the life of the average car, as long as every 7,000 miles or so, you drained the oil, changed the filter, put the old oil back in and topped it off. I’m not brave enough to try it myself, though...


28 posted on 09/12/2010 10:19:13 AM PDT by apillar
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To: happilymarriedmom

I have been reading a lot about oils and oil change intervals since my 5/75 bumper (which included oil changes and inspections) ran out in June. I have decided that two changes a year with a synthetic oil should be fine. I dirve ~16k miles per year. My ford dealership will change the oil for <$20, so I can’t be bothered to get under the car.


29 posted on 09/12/2010 10:20:29 AM PDT by wizwor (http://danvilledelivery.wordpress.com/)
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To: screaminsunshine
My old Jeep burns 6 qts in 3000 miles anyway. Rendering change uneeded.

Unless the addition of a new 6 qts to the dregs retains the last 3000 miles accumulation of metal bits and corrosive oils. In that case, it might be beneficial to remove even the last quart, otherwise it will accelerate wear-n-tear.

30 posted on 09/12/2010 10:24:01 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the world safe for Marxism)
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To: posterchild

Over the years I’ve changed my oil at 6-month intervals. The engines have outlasted most of the rest of the cars — no oil burning, no internal engine troubles, at 150k+ miles.

This includes a Volvo 260 6-cylinder (had it 21 years until a fuel leak-caused fire) that I’ve heard described as the “engine from hell” as they tended to self destruct, I think due to top-end lubrication problems. My Volvo specialist recommended/used 40-weight (vs. specified 30-weight oil), and a good grade (Castrol).


31 posted on 09/12/2010 10:24:31 AM PDT by VAarea
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To: urtax$@work; Grut

“Some people remain attached to the 3,000-mile oil change and have a hard time trusting the recommendations in the owner’s manual. If you’re one of those skeptics, you can send your engine oil out to be analyzed. Blackstone Laboratories in Fort Wayne, Ind., one of the best-known places for engine oil analysis, will send you a “free” kit.

You send back an oil sample and for $25, they’ll tell you all sorts of things about your car.

“We would compare what your oil looks like compared to the average Mazda5 of that year,” said Kristen Huff, a vice president at Blackstone. If there is a lot more lead in my oil than in a typical Mazda5, for example, it means I have a bearing problem, she said.

Her lab runs about 150 samples a day and a fair percentage of those are consumers looking to find out how often they need to change their oil, Ms. Huff said.

“Very often, it is the case that they’re changing their oil too often,” she said. “They do what their dad did with his ’55 Chevy.”


32 posted on 09/12/2010 10:25:48 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: happilymarriedmom

Yeah, my 98 ford had 3,000/6,000 oil/filter, at 5,000 I would have the oil and filter changed as that’s typicly (from what I’ve heard) what the rental companies do.


33 posted on 09/12/2010 10:26:23 AM PDT by Brellium ("Thou shalt not shilly shally!" Aron Nimzowitsch)
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To: posterchild

34 posted on 09/12/2010 10:26:26 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: wizwor

I take mine in also. If I had 10 cars or more I’d do it myself but with only 2 cars in the household I don’t have an economy of scale to buy quarts and filters , get dirty, dispense with the oil, etc just for 1 or 2 cars.


35 posted on 09/12/2010 10:27:18 AM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: posterchild
AMSOIL recommends oil changes every 25,000 miles. Works for me, too.
36 posted on 09/12/2010 10:27:55 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: wizwor

That’s not too far off the 3-5000 mile rec. Also when people ask the hubby if they really need to change it that much he will ask them how long they plan on keeping the car. If they trade in every two years then you’re probably not going to do that much damage if you only change your oil every 5-10,000 miles (depending on how you drive). But if you want to keep it for 200,000 miles...change it frequentley.


37 posted on 09/12/2010 10:29:15 AM PDT by happilymarriedmom
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To: Liberty Valance

synthetic was the worse stuff I ever used. castrol gtx

Yeah, the oil held up but I developed major leaks at 60k because the stuff was so slickery.

Now its good ole Pennzoil 3~5k a change.

Dad was right.


38 posted on 09/12/2010 10:30:56 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: posterchild
Viscosity, clarity, and color. The problem with recommending 7500 - 10K miles between changes is that most people (like my wife) will then never do it all. The result being what happened to her car. I was driving it one day, and noticed her oil pressure gage read “0.” I asked her when was the last time she checked her oil, and she responded “check?” Not what you want to hear at a time like that. I pulled the dip stick, and found it clean as a dinner fork. It was as if it had left the factory with no oil at all. When I added oil, it immediately went out the tailpipe in a cloud of smoke. The car was only two years old. Near as I can figure, her oil was changed at one of those quickie oil change places, somebody drained the old stuff, and failed to refill. Since she never checks oil level, the engine was a gonner.
39 posted on 09/12/2010 10:31:00 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will work for ammo)
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To: EyeGuy

Yep, the first thing I thought of too. All just a “going longer between oil changes saves the enviroment” mentality....


40 posted on 09/12/2010 10:31:06 AM PDT by Bud Krieger (Another President, another idiot....)
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