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Jurors must reveal race and ethnicity
Times Herald Record Middletown, NY ^ | 9/12/10 | Heather Yakin

Posted on 09/12/2010 3:54:39 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

GOSHEN — Starting Monday, everyone who shows up for jury duty in New York will be handed a questionnaire that asks for their race and ethnic background.

The intent — to make sure jury pools are a fair cross-section of their communities — is pure, but the execution comes across as a little "don't ask, don't tell." The requirement was created by Judiciary Law Section 528, newly minted on June 25 by Gov. David Paterson's signature.

In guidance sent out by the state Office of Court Administration, jury commissioners are instructed to hand out the information cards to jurors. They can say that the state requires them to collect the data, and the law is printed on the back of the card. They can advise jurors to use black or blue ink.

They are told not to say anything else about that card or why it's being distributed and not to offer any opinions on why the data is being collected or how to answer the questions (other than truthfully). They're told not to offer the jurors a chance to ask questions — and if they ask anyway, have them come to the front of the room to ask in private.

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To: LiteKeeper
How do “race” and “ethnicity” differ?

Etymological speaking "Ethnos" is the Greek for nation (Strict meaning a foreign nation) so you could have someone of sub-Saharan African parentage who was ethnically Finnish. (ie culturally and linguistically)

Bit I don't think that's what they mean

21 posted on 09/12/2010 4:33:48 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Pardon him...he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe ... are the laws of nature)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Current federal government policy is that employees cannot challenge an individual on what race or sex they claim to be no matter what their appearance.

In their whacko, leftist, politically correct eyes you are now what you claim to be, not what you look like, act like or what other information may be on other documents.

This is supposed to somehow protect minorities, homos. transexuals, etc. but it opens the door for all kinds of manipulation and some downright funny stuff.


22 posted on 09/12/2010 4:34:41 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama demands proof we have medical insurance but he can't prove he is a citizen.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Aquaman doesn’t have no stinkin’ cape.


23 posted on 09/12/2010 4:34:56 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
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To: Impala64ssa

Descendant of Noah here.


24 posted on 09/12/2010 4:37:00 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: Drango
Aquaman doesn’t have no stinkin’ cape.

You mean Seaman?

25 posted on 09/12/2010 4:38:42 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Pardon him...he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe ... are the laws of nature)
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To: Personal Responsibility

I escaped from the Klingon penal colony on Rura Penthe. However, nobody believes me because conditions here are worse.


26 posted on 09/12/2010 4:43:35 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Darksheare

“I’m a Celt! And I have Mead!”

Hey! I’m a Celt and I’m brewing some mead.


27 posted on 09/12/2010 4:46:10 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: Impala64ssa

Actually, I am against the whole jury choosing system. They should take the first however many people, and each lawyer gets to toss off one person. The ONLY other reason someone can be tossed off is if they know someone involved in the trial. Otherwise, sorry, they are on the jury. End of story. This whole business of choosing juries is completely and totally NOT with justice in mind.


28 posted on 09/12/2010 4:46:38 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: South40

I have bee called to jury duty 6 or 7 times over the years. They have never picked me, they always pass over me. They just want to waste my time, I guess.


29 posted on 09/12/2010 4:47:58 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Iron Munro

Actually my Mom did a lot of family research and we have Cherokee (it appears, they did not live on the reservation) on both sides of our family tree, so sometimes I do put Native American on things. Just because. I WAS born here, and so were my ancestors. Maybe pretty far back. At least as far back as I can go.


30 posted on 09/12/2010 4:51:55 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea

Not at all. I had to tell a Court that you are outside of your jurisdiction. (They were) Not the smartest folks even though they think they are.


31 posted on 09/12/2010 4:53:33 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Impala64ssa

Jury Quota’s and Jury affirmative action.

That 12 bucks you get for jury duty is a lot of money.


32 posted on 09/12/2010 4:53:51 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: dljordan

Don’t let the lawyers know that.
[They’ll want some, and lawyers on mead..]


33 posted on 09/12/2010 4:53:57 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: brytlea

It’s an honor, really, to be passed over. They want people who cannot think for themselves and they love minorities for this very reason. They assume, of course, that all minorities are liberals because liberal minorities fit that mold quite well.


34 posted on 09/12/2010 4:54:25 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: eyedigress

There’s something about me they never like, but they always make me come sit there. :(


35 posted on 09/12/2010 4:55:50 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Impala64ssa

As a college educated, white Christian male business owner that has worked his entire life without receiving govt aid once... If I went to trial and wanted a jury ‘of my peers’... Would they be the local subway employees that would never relate to 80 hr weeks... Or people of similar demographics?

Yea, I know... I’d get stuck with the subway employees that believe more in socialism than capitalism


36 posted on 09/12/2010 4:58:50 PM PDT by sten
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To: eyedigress

My 6-great grand mother was born in Capetown in 1640, so I am a legal AA anthough Blonde & blue eyed


37 posted on 09/12/2010 5:08:02 PM PDT by barb-tex (Nov. 2!(Election Day) Dia de los Muertas. ( Day of the Dead), Them or Us. Nov 5, Guy Falkes Day)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Thereza Heinz-Kerry is African.........


38 posted on 09/12/2010 5:10:13 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: barb-tex

I take it that is “American-Athabaskan”....


39 posted on 09/12/2010 5:10:35 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: South40

I’m sure, except they always pick my husband (which annoys him because he’d rather be at work) and without giving any personal info about him, he does not fit any of those criteria.


40 posted on 09/12/2010 5:18:19 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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