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90 Days In Jail For Unlicensed Talking In D.C.
Liberty Juice ^ | 09/17/2010 | Chris Bounds

Posted on 09/17/2010 9:11:50 AM PDT by ChrisBoundsTX

I have always had problems with the government requiring a licenses in order to business. A government license requirement can have some common sense reasons, such building a nuclear power plant. My problem comes with a government license requirement giving the government enormous power to regulate your liberty and your pursuit of happiness. While I could surely find many cases of government abuse in this area, a reader from the Institute for Justice sent over one that will get under your skin!

In Washington, D.C. tour guides are everywhere. By bus, car, foot and even Segways you can follow tour guides around the beautiful city and hear great stories about its abundant history. If you are a history buff and enjoy telling stories you can even become one yourself. But not so fast! Now you must have a tour guide license, essentially giving you permission by the government to talk! Failure to obtain a license could land you in jail for up to 90 days!

Here is a video detailing the case the Institute for Justice is working on, involving two Segway tour guides Tonia Edwards and Bill Main:

Video


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: license; lping; rapeofliberty; tourguides

1 posted on 09/17/2010 9:11:52 AM PDT by ChrisBoundsTX
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To: ChrisBoundsTX

If your pursuit of happiness rolls over the laws of the land, who wins? As I recall, we have a RIGHT to pursue happiness, but the Founders wanted to create a nation of laws, not men.

So if a Right meets a Law, which one wins?


2 posted on 09/17/2010 9:14:21 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Lets hope the court decides that favorably on the side of the Constitution.


3 posted on 09/17/2010 9:16:00 AM PDT by ChrisBoundsTX
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To: rarestia
As I recall, we have a RIGHT to pursue happiness, but the Founders wanted to create a nation of laws, not men.

Not quite. Our Founders wanted to create a nation of men governed by laws. The difference is in the governance... laws are impartial while men govern by whim and patronage.

4 posted on 09/17/2010 9:18:26 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: ChrisBoundsTX
But not so fast! Now you must have a tour guide license, essentially giving you permission by the government to talk!

It is a TAX.

The government is ensuring that they get their cut of any revenue generated by commerce.

5 posted on 09/17/2010 9:19:37 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac

It is a tax and it is control. It is also a limitation to natural rights.


6 posted on 09/17/2010 9:22:48 AM PDT by ChrisBoundsTX
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To: ChrisBoundsTX

Nothing to see here, folks, just the gubermint regulating commerce. For you see, if the Segway riders and your run-of-the-mill Joe Pedestrians want to conduct groups of people around the Nation’s Capital and point out interesting things, they are free (key word: free) to do so as long as they are not doing so as a business. Engage in commerce and it is a whole different kettle of fish. It’s not that they are speaking, it is that they are charging money for a service.


7 posted on 09/17/2010 9:25:55 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: ChrisBoundsTX

“Now you must have a tour guide license, essentially giving you permission by the government to talk! Failure to obtain a license could land you in jail for up to 90 days! “

And yet, no license is required to publish 70,000 classified documents, about a hot war, on the Internet.


8 posted on 09/17/2010 9:40:44 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: NonValueAdded
How do you fit property rights into this equation? If one owns one’s property one is free to trade it. If people want to trade their property for something they feel is of equal value, one is merely exercising ones property rights. Now if you believe all property belongs to the government ... then the owner, that is the government can set the rules for trade.
9 posted on 09/17/2010 9:52:57 AM PDT by Mark was here (It's either Obama or America. There cannot be both.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Those 70,000 documents were leaked by the Obama Administration.


10 posted on 09/17/2010 9:54:20 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: ChrisBoundsTX

hmmmmm... time to schedule a drive in D.C. with my M-I-L in the back seat telling me where to go; “Oh Officer over here!!!” LOL


11 posted on 09/17/2010 10:53:54 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: rarestia
“So if a Right meets a Law, which one wins?”

Rights always supersede laws. After all laws can give governments the right to trample all over peoples God given rights. ie. slavery, the holocaust, communism's’ collectivism that starved to death millions in both the Soviet Union and China as well as many other places. Laws are only as just as the people who pass them.

On the other hand, as was pointed out elsewhere on this thread, this law doesn't prohibit people from speaking freely without a license, only for charging a fee for their speech (guidance)without a license. If they want to give free tours I believe they may.

12 posted on 09/17/2010 1:51:39 PM PDT by monday
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To: ChrisBoundsTX

There are many aspects of the business license regulatory regimes, in every state, that in many ways are nothing more than protection rackets to keep out competition from existing businesses, means of creating business cartels, and function much like the old “guild system” of the Middle Ages, that had to pass away in order for the industrial revolution to take off.


13 posted on 09/17/2010 3:28:25 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: monday

Was slavery actually codified as acceptable law or was it simply a practice that was so common at the time that no one thought ill of it?

I find it hard to believe that slavery was permissible by law and statute, but to be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.


14 posted on 09/17/2010 5:38:23 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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15 posted on 09/18/2010 2:28:48 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: ChrisBoundsTX

We wouldn’t want these tour guides to say something that is politically incorrect, would we?

We wouldn’t want them to point out that Lincoln was a Republican or that several Democrat presidents with memorials were slave owners. We wouldn’t want them to spread information that would cause unrest on the plantation ... like yelling fire in a theater.


16 posted on 09/20/2010 12:09:37 PM PDT by spintreebob
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