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NRA endorses Betsy Markey
The Greeley Tribune ^ | 09182010 | Trteamer

Posted on 09/18/2010 7:05:23 AM PDT by Trteamer

The National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund endorsed Rep. Betsy Markey,

D-Colo. for re-election this November.

NRA Chief Lobbyist Chris Cox said in a news release that Markey will defend the Second Amendment rights of Colorado gun owners and has demonstrated those rights by her vote for legislation to restore self-defense rights in the nation's capital.

“Betsy has a strong record of supporting Second Amendment rights and has been a tireless advocate for Colorado's hunters and sportsmen. With roughly 11,000 members in the 4th Congressional District, we're very glad to have their endorsement,” said Ben Marter, a spokesman for Markey's campaign.

Markey faces Republican challenger Cory Gardner and two other candidates in the Nov. 2 election.


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What the press fails to report is that Cory Gardner, the Republican challenger also answered all of the questions correctly. Once again the NRA bites the hand that feeds them.

My family will not ever send the NRA another cent and will not be going to the Friends of the NRA functions ever again. They are not our friends any more, after endorsing the progressive leftist candidate. They should have kept their nose out of it and done no endorsement whatsoever since it is not an issue in this district. Bye bye NRA, I just scraped their life member stickers off my truck.....

1 posted on 09/18/2010 7:05:26 AM PDT by Trteamer
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To: Trteamer

The NRA has jumped the shark.


2 posted on 09/18/2010 7:06:23 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Trteamer

I don’t see how they think endorsing candidates from a party whose primary goal is the destruction of the Constitution is in any way protecting the 2nd Amendment.


3 posted on 09/18/2010 7:07:39 AM PDT by KansasGirl (No, I do not proofread.)
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To: Trteamer

hang the nra...


4 posted on 09/18/2010 7:08:12 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: pnh102

NRA must be for sale to highest bidder.


5 posted on 09/18/2010 7:08:48 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: pnh102

Brilliant on their part, they just pissed off the 11,000 members in the district....


6 posted on 09/18/2010 7:09:13 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Thanks Trteamer. There must be moles in the NRA — unless they’re doing this to HELP her opponent via the backlash...


7 posted on 09/18/2010 7:10:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Trteamer

Anyone who sends the NRA any more money is foolish. No, stupid. We have good alternatives to this once great organization.


8 posted on 09/18/2010 7:10:25 AM PDT by Conservative9
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To: Trteamer

They should add a question of whether they’d support a party leadership that was anti-1st Amendment and then they’d have to stop this crap.


9 posted on 09/18/2010 7:11:01 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Trteamer

I am due a renewal that will not happen. The NRA forgets that these anti-freedom dems most often vote in a block. Dumb-asses.


10 posted on 09/18/2010 7:15:30 AM PDT by BamaAndy
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To: Trteamer
I can't support any democrat let alone Markey. I have E-mailed her several times and got her form mail return and she did not answer any questions. She was quite underhanded in her last election and bows to the special interest groups in denver that put her in office. Who else had the NRA supported besides Reid and Markey?
11 posted on 09/18/2010 7:18:04 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: pnh102

And they are not alone in “jumping the shark”, after what has been happening during this GOP primary season. The “Elitist GOP”, the “Establishment GOP”, and all non-conservative members of the GOP has been exposed, as have those in the media and entertainment world, who have, either, GOP “Elitism”, or those who are, mostly pro-GOP, but not fully with social conservatism/far-right conservatism.


12 posted on 09/18/2010 7:20:46 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Trteamer

As I’ve said here many times, the NRA lost me when they endorsed John Murtha again in 2008. Endorsing any Democrat is endorsing keeping Pelosi as Speaker. And when push comes to shove they will vote how Nancy tells them to.


13 posted on 09/18/2010 7:21:55 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Pro Aris et Focis")
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To: Trteamer

Cory Gardner (R) gets an A+ rating from NRA Political Victory Fund and Markey gets the endorsement!!!! WTF


14 posted on 09/18/2010 7:29:28 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: Joe Brower

Ping.

Man, what is up with them lately?


15 posted on 09/18/2010 7:35:25 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanks Trteamer. There must be moles in the NRA — unless they’re doing this to HELP her opponent via the backlash...

Karl Rove works for the NRA??????

16 posted on 09/18/2010 7:40:39 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Trteamer

The NRA couldve simply rated the candidates. This is clearly a smack after the Reid flap. It is unecessary and stupid.


17 posted on 09/18/2010 7:40:48 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Trteamer

This liberal b***h also “pretends” to support the military. She sent my veteran husband a silly letter on how she greatly “supports the military” and is there for him.

Her commercials all talk about how she is going to stop the “excessive spending” coming out of Washington DC. SHE voted for the outragious heath care bill but she is now pretending that didn’t happen.

She is pretending that she is a middle of the road Democrat. She is a left wing liberal. Don’t be fooled.

The NRA will NEVER get a dime from us after this endorsement. Maybe the NRA likes to pretend what they believe too?


18 posted on 09/18/2010 7:42:44 AM PDT by KarenB
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To: Trteamer

Almost 30 minutes and still no NRA shills racing to their defense. Must be a busy day...


19 posted on 09/18/2010 7:44:03 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: Trteamer

There are NO good democrats anymore. We learned that during health crimes. Those demtards who voted against it only did so when Pelosi allowed them to b/c she had enough votes & they were in trouble with their voters.

There are plenty of lousy republicans, but absolutely NO good demtards. None. Nobody should support any demtard.


20 posted on 09/18/2010 7:45:15 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Conservative9

GOA got me as a new member. Most of my 2A pals have switched, including nra (small on purpose) Lifetime Membership holders.

FY nra!


21 posted on 09/18/2010 7:47:39 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: Trteamer
Very disappointing. I wonder if their magazine inserts will mention her opponent's A+ rating, This should have been a push. And this just dilutes the value of their endorsement - I wonder if they have considered that?

The NRA and their ILA wing are just as insider as is the GOP leadership. Too much cult of personality for my taste. Time for new blood.

22 posted on 09/18/2010 7:52:05 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: KansasGirl

“I don’t see how they think endorsing candidates from a party whose primary goal is the destruction of the Constitution is in any way protecting the 2nd Amendment.”

This must be like the Tea Party Express endorsing that D in ID - they think they have something to prove to RATS. This is what wrecked a potentially more successful Bush admin - this idea that constantly, they have to tip their hat, and cow tow to liberals and progressives, so they’ll ‘like’ us.

Guess what? Liberals and Progressives want to DESTROY you, the Constitution and the country as we know it.

It’s time [NRA, and Bush moderate types, and big tenters first et al] that you started to fight for what is right - Conservative ideals and principles - and quit worrying about whether those people ‘like’ you.


23 posted on 09/18/2010 7:58:06 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 45 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: mountainlion

“Who else had the NRA supported besides Reid and Markey?”

The NRA decided not to endorse either Reid or Sharron Angle:
http://sharronangle.com/septembertoremember/


24 posted on 09/18/2010 8:02:21 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 45 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Trteamer

Organizations like the NRA and National Right To Life have a record of endorsing inside the beltway incumbent politicians.


25 posted on 09/18/2010 8:04:21 AM PDT by Nextrush (Slocialist Republicans and Socialist Democrats need to go)
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To: SeattleBruce

The NRA decided not to endorse either Reid or Sharron Angle:
http://sharronangle.com/septembertoremember/

Good news Thanks.


26 posted on 09/18/2010 8:06:48 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: The Pack Knight
So anyone who lifts a finger to question your condemnation of the NRA is a "shill", huh? Have you even bothered to call the NRA and get their side of the story?
27 posted on 09/18/2010 8:10:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: SeattleBruce
The NRA figures it needs to be bipartisan, like Glenn Beck and John McCain; but they should take a lesson from NOW, NAACP and other special interest groups and support the party (not the person) since all Dems work for Nancy P and Harry R.
28 posted on 09/18/2010 8:17:18 AM PDT by Roy Baty
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To: raybbr

His nose would have to be way pointier.


29 posted on 09/18/2010 8:17:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: AAABEST; KansasGirl; Trteamer
I can't say I know enough about this to comment much, not yet anyway.

I did a search on Markey and found that she was one 65 dems who signed a letter written to Eric Holder on 3/17/09 to not reinstate the so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" which sunset in 2004. She has also written or backed other pro-gun bills, as well. So gun-rights wise, she does seem to ignore the DNC's party line on civilian disarmament.

But I agree with KansasGirl's assessment that backing dems is a bad idea in the long term and broader sense, especially if there is a Repub who scores as well, RKBA-wise. This does seem like a matter of being too single-issue, and going with the greater electability chances for the incumbent.

But like I said, this is the first I heard of this, and I haven't been tracking the races in Colorado. I'm going to call the NRA-ILA and ask them about this, though.

Thanks for the ping, AAA. Back to my paying job...

30 posted on 09/18/2010 8:22:51 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Trteamer

A cheap attempt to show they are not affiliated with a political party.


31 posted on 09/18/2010 8:23:28 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Osama and Obama both hate freedom and have friends that bombed the Pentagon)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Cory Gardner (R) gets an A+ rating from NRA Political Victory Fund and Markey gets the endorsement!!!!”

If the NRA felt Markey was so great there was no need to make an endorsement in this district. Gardner is not theirs or our enemy. The NRA is insane.


32 posted on 09/18/2010 8:23:36 AM PDT by Luke21
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33 posted on 09/18/2010 8:25:02 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: AAABEST

They have done this all along. They are just under greater scrutiny these days due to the spread of information on the Internet.


34 posted on 09/18/2010 8:28:47 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: Joe Brower
So anyone who lifts a finger to question your condemnation of the NRA is a "shill", huh?

No, just those whose knee-jerk reaction is to whine any time someone questions the NRA even when they do something that is obviously not in the interests of gun owners.

Have you even bothered to call the NRA and get their side of the story?

Don't have to. Here is their own press release. It's pretty much exactly what the article at the top of this thread says it is.

Of course, they don't bother to explain why, between two candidates with 'A' ratings, they pick the one who will help Nancy Pelosi - who the NRA gives an 'F' - remain Speaker of the House.
35 posted on 09/18/2010 8:33:44 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: Trteamer
I'm incensed at the NRA's endorsements of people like Betsy Markey. They were set to endorse Reid until they were inundated with membership cancellations and cancellation threats, including myself. Reid and Markey are not true friends of the 2nd Amendment and if push came to shove, they'd vote to sell out gun ownership in a heartbeat if their vote was really needed in a tight situation. Markey already proved that with her vote for Obamacare.

Cory Gardner is a principled conservative and has deeply rooted pro 2nd Amendment beliefs. Gardner is at least 20 points ahead in the polls, and Markey has most likely has already been cut loose by the DCCC during their latest triage exercise. Gardner is also slated for a leadership position in the Colorado state GOP, and has been tapped as a Young Gun, putting him on the fast track as a national conservative GOP leader. Gardener is 5th a generation Coloradoan, with degrees from CSU and CU.

It makes no sense for the NRA to endorse Markey rather than Gardner.

I would dearly love to cancel my NRA membership and enroll in an alternative gun rights organization. I know that there are several effective alternative gun rights organizations, though how effective I could not say at this point, as it's not something I've studied.

I do see Amicus Briefs filed in the McDonald v. City of Chicago case by several national gun rights organizations, including:

National Association of Gun Rights

National Shooting Sports Foundation

Gun Owners Foundation



Also, there is our own Rocky Mountain Gun Owners and the Colorado State Shooting Association

Can anyone else comment about the relative effectiveness of the organizations listed above?
36 posted on 09/18/2010 8:39:44 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the Right Stuff!)
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To: catnipman

http://www.kc3.com/Links/national_organizations.htm


37 posted on 09/18/2010 8:49:39 AM PDT by Roy Baty
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To: catnipman; All
And of course...

Gun Owners of America (GOA)

Second Amendment Foundation (SAF)

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO)

38 posted on 09/18/2010 8:50:46 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Joe Brower
To be fair, I can think of two reasons to back Markey. First, she isn't running for Senate, so she won't have a hand in voting on Obama's judicial nominees. Second, they probably want to reward Democrat incumbents who make pro-gun votes (or, in other cases, who at least support NRA-friendly pork).

But that pales before the key issue: What is the best thing for gun owners that could happen in 2010? That would be for Republicans to take back control of Congress. This endorsement, in a toss-up race in a conservative-leaning district where the GOP has a good chance at beating a Democrat incumbent, works against that result.
39 posted on 09/18/2010 8:53:20 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: Joe Brower; Trteamer
The National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund endorsed Rep. Betsy Markey,

And MileHi cancelled his membership yesterday after 25+ years.

40 posted on 09/18/2010 8:57:54 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: The Pack Knight
Of course, they don't bother to explain why, between two candidates with 'A' ratings, they pick the one who will help Nancy Pelosi - who the NRA gives an 'F' - remain Speaker of the House.

I found this article, which quotes GOP contender Cory Gardner's spokeswoman, Rachel Boxer, as saying "The NRA has a 'strict incumbent endorsement policy.'" I would have to concur with that assessment.

And as I note in a previous post on this thread, that's not a good policy.

41 posted on 09/18/2010 8:58:29 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: MileHi
I'm still a member, but I don't send them any money besides that. I only donate directly to specific candidates of my own choosing.
42 posted on 09/18/2010 9:00:02 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Trteamer
The NRA has always endorsed pro-Second Amendment Democrat incumbets. As well it should: the Constitution is not a partisan document.

However, it's a fair question whether you can fairly call "pro-Second Amendment" anyone who votes for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker and John Conyers for Chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

I think that you can, but only if the incumbent in question is shown not only to be "personally" supportive of the RKBA, but actually is making aggressive moves to change public policy on the Second Amendent and to change the Democratic Party's position about it -- in other words acting as if the RKBA not only exists but is important.

Are they fighting to change platform planks? Are they recruiting and supporting pro-RKBA candidates in solid and swing districts? Are they organizing to get pro-RKBA members into leadership? Are they engaged with RKBA advocacy and scholarship groups, and wholesalers and resellers in the firearms industry? Are they writing op-eds against gun control and cooperating actively with Republicans on RKBA issues?
43 posted on 09/18/2010 9:06:08 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: Trteamer
NRA is another group that we can do without very nicely. GOA is much better. I'm a life NRA member but I regret it.
44 posted on 09/18/2010 9:26:20 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: only1percent

What good are gun rights if the Democrats tax and spend us to death and ruin our country in the process, not to mention destroying our moral values.


45 posted on 09/18/2010 9:45:37 AM PDT by Roy Baty
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To: NonValueAdded

The next NRA election will be interesting.

The current leadership doesn’t understand the Culture War we’re fully engaged in.


46 posted on 09/18/2010 10:09:36 AM PDT by IGOTMINE (1911s FOREVER!)
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To: IGOTMINE

Sarah’s advice to Rove at yesterday’s dinner would equally apply to the NRA leadership.


47 posted on 09/18/2010 10:33:19 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: only1percent

Very well said and you get to the heart of the matter. When the potential endorsee is part of the anti-RKBA party, you cannot be blind to the harm that a party-line vote can cause. Unless there is a record showing RKBA will come before party, then you have the tie-breaking data to not endorse.


48 posted on 09/18/2010 10:38:38 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: IGOTMINE

The next NRA election will be much like nearly all the elections since the “Cincinnati Rebellion.” After that scare the “Ruling Class” of the NRA (yes, they have one) changed the rules so that now the members only get to vote for Tweedledum or Tweedledummer.

Remember the Director who stated publically that ordinary citizens didn’t need military-style weapons? Remember the hue and cry for his head on a platter? He got re-elected. It’s always that way too. The only way it will ever change is for something drastic to happen. Perhaps if the membership were to go from four million to two million while that of the GOA were to swell by a similar amount they would change their ways.

I don’t know but I’ve done my part.


49 posted on 09/18/2010 10:40:30 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: The Pack Knight

I can’t believe there could be any nra shills here.

Who elected these commie INFILTRATORS?
Who is Chris Cox? I thought he was a good guy.

We’re getting way to many of this sort of thing.
But who didn’t expect it?

We didn’t up our renewals. This really sucks.


50 posted on 09/18/2010 12:05:50 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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