Skip to comments.Karl Rove Says Christine O'Donnell Needs to Explain Witchcraft 'Dabbling' to Voters
Posted on 09/19/2010 1:16:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
Karl Rove, political mastermind for former President Bush, said Sunday that Christine O'Donnell, the Tea Party insurgent who won an upset victory in Delaware for the GOP Senate nomination, "can't simply ignore" the controversy stirred over the disclosure that she "dabbled in witchcraft" and has to find a way to "explain it and put it in its most sympathetic light and move on." "In southern Delaware, where there are a lot of church-going people, they're probably going to want to know what was that all about," Rove said on Fox News Sunday. "And again, she said it on television when she went on the ... the Bill Maher show." Rove was referring to an October 1999 appearance O'Donnell made on Maher's "Politically Incorrect" show where she said," I dabbled into witchcraft -- I never joined a coven... One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn't know it." O'Donnell had been on Maher's show frequently in the 1990s, and Maher has said he is going to show an O'Donnell clip each week until she agrees to appear again.
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Christine just laughed it off. She’s going to be a rock star of a candidate. She’ll destroy the Democrat.
“How many of you didn’t hang out with questionable folks in high school?” she asked fellow Republicans at a GOP picnic in southern Delaware on Sunday.
“There’s been no witchcraft since. If there was, Karl Rove would be a supporter now,” O’Donnell jokingly assured the crowd.
Obama needs to explain his dabbling with cocaine...
I’m sure there are lots of other “dabblings” that need to be explained.
“What do you people think about letting FNC know that we would prefer not to see Rove and one of my past favorites (that I supported on another blog about a month ago right here) namely Charles Krautheimer. He suffers from the same elitism as Rove.”
I wrote FNC two days ago, but also included Dana Perino. That was followed by sending Chris a donation if for no better reason than to (insert sign language) Rove.
That is actually a good argument. However, now your getting into a debate over who can win and what is it to be "electable". I was very young, but I can not remember thinking (or anyone in my family) that Reagan was unelectable. He was probably as conservative as we could get while STILL being electable. So he was a good choice and we are all the better for it. Goldwater may just have been the best we could do at the time. I wasn't born yet.
Lets say it was discovered during the 80' primaries that Reagan had a closet full of skeletons that would have later made him very unappealing in the general - then I would have said we shouldn't nominate him. No such skeletons existed though. He was a great example of nominating the most conservative candidate who could get elected.
Had O'Donnell had her same views, AND a good financial record, no sex discrimination suits against conservative organizations, etc, etc, I would have said she was a good choice over Castle. My problem is, she has so many skeletons that she is probably NOT electable in Delaware. In a year where that seat may give us control of the body, I would have preferred we nominate an (R) who can win.
Some people here, like yourself, have made some good points. I can definitely understand there are times to throw caution to the win and nominate only on principle - even if it means losing a few cycles. If we are building a movement, sometimes that will be necessary. All in all though, I think the Tea Party efforts would have been better spent helping someone like Angle (who is also not exactly a stellar candidate) instead of fighting on another front that we could have afforded to ignore this time around since at least we'd have gotten a Senator who would vote for a Republican for majority leader.
Why do you believe it is crazy to ask a representative why they associate with witchcraft?
Oh for heaven sakes, get over yourself. What a stupid question. She was a teeny bopper then, you ding dong. She is now in her 40’s, and isn’t “associating with witchcraft.” If you can’t figure out the difference in her being in her teens and her now being in her 40’s, then you have a bigger screw loose than you seem to claim she has. Give it up. You’ve had your say, and it is the equivalent of nothing said at all that anyone wants to listen to.
Sarah already had plans to go to Delaware. In an off the cuff remark after her speech at the Iowa Reagan Dinner the other night, she said that she wants to return to Iowa - after she goes to Delaware.
I can only assume this is a joke.
Actually, the GOP's Achilles Heel has always been, not who's the best candidate?" but "Whose turn is it?"
That has brought the GOP to this state.
Sorry, not buying it. The election is not about her personal issues, it's about the future of our country, apostrophized by a Republican or Democrat senate.
If she doesn't win, it will be because Delaware voters prefer to elect a leftist. They have a completely clear choice.
OUTSTANDING thread! Thanks to all posters. Beyond idiocy.
Karl, you have the right to remain silent...
Karl Rove needs to STFU.
Do you mean someone like Arlen Sphincter?
Rove, Romney, Castle,
Karl Rove needs to find another line of work. As far as I am concerned, he’s finished.
He really, really, really doesn’t like O’Donnell, does he?
Just saw Rove on Fox telling Chris not to consider Rubio a “Tea Party” candidate because Rubio is “mainstream.”
Apparently Rove believes that a Tea Party candidate is by definition NOT a mainstream candidate.
Rove: Tea Party equals Fringe.
Rove is an actual enemy now, not just a prodigal son IMO.
The mercy and grace of God is everreaching! In my small-town high school, a kid who was very popular (because he had a great personality) was also the biggest doper one could imagine. He did pot, acid, speed, booze -- you name it. In his senior year, he became Born Again. Clean. I can't even begin to imagine the peer pressure he bucked. I saw it, witnessed it, and I still can't imagine it.
His courage, strength, and faith I am CERTAIN changed many more lives, straightened many more paths, than just his own. He was a beacon. I would rather have as a leader someone who dabbled and overcame -- now THAT is a resume.
Just saw Rove on Fox telling Chris not to consider Rubio a Tea Party candidate because Rubio is mainstream.
I missed that.
Rove is getting scary as are the folks at FOX who are giving him airtime.
Seems to me that if a RINO didn’t get selected then the GOP would rather a Democrat to win. No idea why but that is what it looks like to me. She doesn’t have to explain anything she did in high school unless it was a very severe type issue (like murder or something). Other than that, she was a teen. If that is all they found on her she seems pretty squeaky to me. Just a thought
We did get Obama care as result of their votes. Isn't that just great? You stand for something or you fall for anything. As to Scott Brown he is for cap and trade. What is the difference between him and the Democrat?People in MA. voted for something different than a RINO but they they got stuck with one. If you are being screwed does the title of the person doing it Matter?
Conservatives are being played for fools...again.
Wow Rove is really going all out campaigning for Coons.
Rupert Murdoch is not necessarily a conservative. He is just a smart businessman who probably has a lot of interest in maintaining the status quo, even if that means hurtling towards socialism like Europe.
He'll still be around to broadcast the news no matter what...
Rove also said, ironically, that "message beats resume every time."
Christine has the message. She can beat her thin resume and win, especially with her self-proclaimed marxist opponent. Karl doesn't like that.
Give 'em the message, Christine!
Dabbling in a little witchcraft is far less serious than blowing up the levees in New Orleans, Karl.
I agree,great thread and still reading.
When he popped off about O’Donnell the first time election night, I said to my wife, that is not just him making an opinion, it is a vicious attack. Later in the week he fluffed it off with a comment that he is a commentator and analyst now on FOX, not a political operative. I don’t know where he is in telling the complete truth here, but his attack on O’Donnell looked to me to be more political than ANALytical, it was devisive, mean spirited, petty and leaves me with a very unfavorable opinion of him as a person. If I did not know better, I would have thought he was Castle’s illegitimate son.
I am sorry if his big tent, go along to get along politics is not what the country needs or the GOP needs and he is upset about that. Then again, I am not in favor of amnesty either which he and his former boss seemed to favor. Good bye Karl, we hate to see you go, but go you must. Till then, put a sock in it and talk a bit about the whitchcraft (o)bama has been practicing. I did note he made a point of going to church today...perhaps those rumors of his primary affilitations are getting a tad close, so he needs to deflect them. Rove and that other nitwit Kathleen Parker will be quick to drink more of the Kool Aid there too I fear.
He backed Castle, may have contributed to his campaign (monetarily). And is now pissed that he didn’t win. Plus he thinks she can’t beat that scumbag lawyer. Simple as that.
This fight is O’Donnell vs Coons. Rove and Maher need to step off. Wake up folks and don’t let trolls control the message.
Karl Rove is not on our side. It is time for him to declare for the Democrats.
So what is so difficult for her to address the question and state it, as you present it?
After all, it’s such a simple little issue, why over 250 posts trying to hide it and attack those who simply ask for her to clarify?
(I’ve never met anybody who nonchalantly attends Satanic rituals and considers it happenstance, but then again I probably am not so well versed in these worldly affairs. I’ve just never had an inkling of finding such things to be either carefree or without consequence from the most senior of authorities.)
One thing about this election, the posers are emerging.
I’ve been in a house with Demons. What now
It may be that Karl is simply for the mushy middle type of Republican and not necessarily a dem. That's what I think, anyway.
But it doesn't make him less of an enemy, it just means that he is going to help lead the fight against the true Conservatives for control of the GOP. There is no question that this control is the prize both the Conservatives and the progressive-lite wings of the GOP are after.
I guarantee it is watched. This is nuts.
No, it is not a joke, but I find it interesting that so many people are attacking fellow conservatives when they simply express loyalty to legitimate authority in God and country.
If a candidate had murdered their parents, I also would find that significant information upon which to consider in my vote.
If they admit to attending Satanic rituals and had been associated with witchcraft, then I also find that significant.
If it isn’t a big issue, then why all the fuss and defensive posturing? Such actions betray the true intent of those claiming there is nothing behind the curtain.
Place your faith in Christ and remain in fellowship with Him.
Same guidance we receive for all situations.
Karl Rove needs to explain why he is endorsing liberals only!
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Thanks for reminding me of a great fun tune when I was a kid!
Time will tell in DE, there are certainly those who agree with your thinking and it isn’t without merit.
My complaint about Rove is, that at this point he isn’t helping anybody but the democrat. His hypocrisy in demanding explanations from ODonnell but not from Obama is clear, if people here on FR can see it, the average reasonable person hearing him can see it too.
If the situation were reversed with Castle winning and the Tea Party crabbing as much after the fact as Rove is, we’d hear nothing from Rove and the establishment pundits except condescending consention as to how unprofessional the Tea Party was.
Rove’s public negativity needs to stop. And let’s all hope that O’Donnell doesn’t have any more skeletons, and even that she could address the ones that are there.
I don’t believe Rove will emerge successful. This is his Waterloo. He’s done, along with the rest of the establishment. Throw the bums out. All of them. For how long have we had to hold our noses? and vote the “R”?
We have waited YEARS. Win or lose, doesn’t it feel good?
Your power of reasoning is hopeless. Let it go.
Rove is merely still trying to prove his relevance.
The Alternative Media allows the Power Brokers to be bypassed..essentially putting Rove out of business..
Her candidacy made it obvious to the world. He of course, takes it personally.
You know good and darned well that “Conservative” hard work is my creed. I am being lectured on this thread about my Creator. I am a God-Fearing fighter that keeps my family and friends above board. It’s all I have.
Rove is merely proving his irrelevance ... and the
evil of those who paid him (prostitute that he is).
America knows the backstabbers and sore losers, now.
Hey Karl ee, how about really going back and explain how candidate O’Donnell got her first name, and who her first name is derived from?
Hey Karl ee, how about really going back and explain how candidate O’Donnell got her first name, and who her first name is derived from?
...and furthermore how she hasn’t changed her name to one of those............
As a supporter of Castle and someone who believes O’Donnell cannot win, I still cannot defend the ongoing attacks by Rove following O’Donnell’s primary win. Rove has shown himself to be a blatant hypocrite.
God is all we all we have! Have no fear, many conservatives forgot Jesus. They are re-finding Him and re-assigning their conservative position. A year from now, it will be different. Remember, years ago, voting for the 'approved' candidate was the conservative thing to do. I'm excited about voting against the lesser of two evils. I've been many times been on the verge of losing faith, but, these past couple month, it's changing, and we feel it in the air.
Hope and Change baby!