Posted on 09/27/2010 10:18:09 AM PDT by julieee
10 Years Later, Abortion Drug Has Killed One Million Children, Hurt Women
Washington, DC -- This weekend marked the tenth anniversary of the Clinton administration approving the dangerous RU 486 abortion drug that has taken the lives of hundreds of thousands of unborn children and hurt women. The drug has killed at least eight women in the United States and dozens around the world.
http://LifeNews.com/nat6729.html
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Yeah it is.
I'm glad you agree.
If you read the article carefully, its own numbers are internally inconsistant.
Can you give me an example?
Do you consider being biased for life a bad thing?
The term "murder" has a legal connotation. The use of RU486 for its labeled purpose, the prevention of a possible pregnancy, is not illegal and, thus, the term "murder" does not apply.
Is the drug dangerous? All drugs carry some risk. If used according to the manufacturer's instructions, the risk with this drug is very minimal.
Do you deny that it kills babies and hurts women?
RU486, when used according to label, prevents the implantation of the zygote/embryo into the uterus. It is, at the very least, arguable whether that even fits the definition of "abortion."
Does it "kill" a baby? In my opinion, it does not. The lump of undifferentiated cells does not constitute a "baby," in my opinion. You may disagree about that, and that is your right.
In general, I am opposed to abortion, but I do not have a problem with the way this particular drug works when used according to the label instructions.
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What do you think about the above quote from the article?
Yes. From the article:
"Planned Parenthood continues to tell women that RU-486 is ‘extremely safe’ even after thousands of young women like Holly Patterson have died, hemorrhaged, suffered life-threatening infections and excruciating pain," Wright complained.
The numbers of women who died or suffered serious consequences listed in the article don't add up to "thousands," unless perhaps you want to consider the wiggle term "excruciating pain," which is not mentioned elsewhere in the article.
Also, see my post number 25.
"Mifegyne is sold outside the U.S. by Exelgyn Laboratories, made in France, and is approved for: Medical termination of intrauterine pregnancies of up to 49 days gestation (up to 63 days gestation in Britain and Sweden)
Softening and dilatation of the cervix prior to mechanical cervical dilatation for pregnancy termination
Use in combination with gemeprost for termination of pregnancies between 13 and 24 weeks gestation
Labor induction in fetal death in utero.[15]
Mifeprex is sold in the U.S. by Danco Laboratories, made in China,[16] and is U.S. Food and Drug Administration-approved to terminate intrauterine pregnancies of up to 49 days gestation. Under the FDA-approved regimen, a 600 mg dose is administered by a clinician following a counseling session. Two days later, a clinician administers 400 µg of another medicine, misoprostol, to induce contractions. In European studies, this method terminated 96 to 99% of pregnancies of up to 49 days gestation, but in one large multicenter trial in the U.S. conducted from September 1994 to September 1995, the efficacy was lower (92%), which the authors of the study suggested may have been due to lack of experience with this method in the U.S. and/or the design of their study.[17] In Europe and China, an observation period of several hours is required after administration of misoprostol. If expulsion of fetal tissue does not occur during the observation period, surgical abortion is offered. There is no required observation period in the U.S., but it is strongly recommended.[18]
According to the current RCOG abortion evidence-based clinical guideline:[19] All methods of first-trimester abortion carry a small risk of failure to terminate the pregnancy, thus necessitating a further procedure. The risk for surgical abortion is around 0.23% and for medical abortion between 0.1% and 1.4% (depending on the regimen used and the experience of the centre). Medical abortion using mifepristone plus prostaglandin is the most effective method of abortion at gestations of less than 7 weeks.
Conventional vacuum aspiration should be avoided at gestations below 7 weeks.
Early vacuum aspiration using a rigorous protocol (which includes magnification of aspirated material and indications for serum βhCG follow-up) may be used at gestations below 7 weeks, although data suggest that the failure rate is higher than for medical abortion.
Medical abortion using mifepristone plus prostaglandin continues to be an appropriate method for women in the 7–9 week gestation band. Mifepristone can also be used in smaller doses as an emergency contraceptive; if taken after sex but before ovulation, it can prevent ovulation and so prevent pregnancy. In this role, a 10 mg dose is not as effective as the 600 mg dose, but has fewer side-effects.[20] Mifeprex and Mifegyne are only available in 200 mg tablets.[21] A review of studies in humans found that the contraceptive effects of the 10 mg dose were probably due mainly to its effects on ovulation, and not inhibition of implantation, but "the knowledge of the mechanism of action remains incomplete." Treatment with 200 mg of mifepristone changes steroid receptor expression in the fallopian tube, inhibits endometrial development, and effectively prevents implantation."
Note the multiple references to abortion.
It was my understanding that those numbers are from this country only, and that they are from 2006. Does that make a difference to you?
I have no particular reason to doubt the accuracy of that quote.
What I think of it is this:
First, the number of complications, in comparison to the number of uses of the drug, is fairly small. All drugs carry some risk in their use.
Second, some of these complications likely resulted from using the drug improperly, i.e., not in accordance with the manufacturer's label instructions. An example of this is cited in the article: Planned Parenthood (and I am no fan of PP) prescribed the use of the drug vaginally. The manufacturer does not recommend the drug be used in this manner.
Third, it is likely that some of those who prescribed this drug have tried to stretch the timing of its usage. It is supposed to be used only within a certain time after unprotected intercourse, and not beyond that time window. The drug , when properly used, prevents implantation of the zygote/embryo in the uterus. If used after the embryo has implanted, complications can result.
Is the possibility of abortion, however small, acceptable with the use of contraception?
That "lump of undifferentiated cells" is a product of the union of a human sperm and human egg, thus having the usual compliment of human DNA. That makes it identifiably a human being.
That "lump of undifferentiated cells" is also undergoing cell division and multiplying and differentiating. That makes it living.
Deliberately ending the life of a living human being is murder.MO< Age and appearance are pretty poor criteria on which to base the humanity of a person. Where do you stop?
First, I appreciate the calm and reasoned approach you have taken in your posts. That is not always the case in these threads.
I had to do a little research...at the online PDR, for one. I remember having this discussion a few years back when the issue of this drug first came up. It seems that my information is out of date.
Mifepristone is now approved in this country for termination of pregnancies up to 49 days (seven weeks). That was most certainly not the case originally! And, yes, that does make a difference, to me, at least.
I still don't have a problem if it is used as a "morning after pill," which is the way it was originally billed, but its use at a more advanced stage of pregnancy is another matter.
I still think that the article is somewhat less than rigorous in its use of the numbers, and I am a bit of a stickler for accuracy, but I am going to have to rethink my position on this drug, or at least on its use.
WRONG.
This IS NOT Plan B (which would be unnecessary if "Plan A" involved teaching these sluts to keep their clothes on), RU-486 is designed to end a pregnancy.
Or are you one of these types who doesn't consider abortion murder?
Does it "kill" a baby? In my opinion, it does not. The lump of undifferentiated cells does not constitute a "baby," in my opinion.
Just a "lump of cells" huh?
In general, I am opposed to abortion,
But you just don't want to prevent others from having them? Why are you opposed if it's just a "lump of cells"?
I, like the garbage-can world we live in (as Keith Green used to say) have become jaded to the horror of abortion. May God forgive me for not doing more to preserve life for the unborn.
Remember your history fellow Freepers…that you recall your disgust at those Nazi sympathizer-townspeople who "just didn't get it"...who when the WWII German death camps were discovered by the US Army, that these people - who lived next to Auschwitz and the other Holocaust camps - they were rounded up and almost literally had their noses rubbed with the truth -- this when Eisenhower ordered them to come into the liberated death camps and help bury the dead with their own hands.
For me personally, no doubt that of my many sins (though I believe I’m saved from them by Christ's blood)...that on my judgment day...I do fear Him that He'll similarly show me my jadedness – and ask me why I allowed abortion to happen just like those Nazi townspeople...saying you could've done more.
So PLEASE fellow jaded FRiends...I urge you to send a surprise check to your local PRC. In my dreams, wouldn't be nice if there was a response to fund our local PRC's like we did Christine O’Donnell.
Hey troll, learn to read. The article NEVER claims that thousands of women have died from RU486, it points out the FACT that it has killed a million babies.
No, it is most certainly not "murder" in all cases. If you are attacked in your home by a crazed rapist and you kill him, his life is ended and you did it deliberately, but it is not "murder."
As I said, murder is a legal concept, and the use of this drug is legal, so, like it or not, it is not "murder."
Whether it is right or not is an entirely different question. See my post #33.
So, if some leftist can convince the judiciary that murder doesn't exist than NOTHING would constitute murder?
I'm no troll, and I can read just fine.
Here's the quote:
"Planned Parenthood continues to tell women that RU-486 is ‘extremely safe’ even after thousands of young women like Holly Patterson have died, hemorrhaged, suffered life-threatening infections and excruciating pain," Wright complained.
For me to agree with this would require complete suspension of disbelief.
Here's the quote:
"Planned Parenthood continues to tell women that RU-486 is ‘extremely safe’ even after thousands of young women like Holly Patterson have died, hemorrhaged, suffered life-threatening infections and excruciating pain," Wright complained.
Again, NOWHERE does this say that thousands of women have died from RU-486; that little symbol after the words "died" and "hemorrhaged" is a COMMA. It speaks of the effects RU-486 has had on THOUSANDS of women, some have died, more have hemorrhaged and suffered life-threatening infections, and even more have had excruciating pain.
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