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Druids recognized as religion for first time in UK
Yahoo News ^ | October 2nd, 2010

Posted on 10/02/2010 2:10:14 PM PDT by TaraP

LONDON – Druids have been worshipping the sun and earth for thousands of years in Europe, but now they can say they're practicing an officially recognized religion.

The ancient pagan tradition best known for gatherings at Stonehenge every summer solstice has been formally classed as a religion under charity law for the first time in Britain, the national charity regulator said Saturday. That means Druids can receive exemptions from taxes on donations — and now have the same status as such mainstream religions as the Church of England.

Adrian Rooke, a Druid who works as a counselor, said Druidry appeals to people who are turning away from monotheistic religions but still long for an aspect of spirituality in their lives.

"It uplifts the spirit," he said. "The world is running out of resources, and in that context it's more important to people now to formulate a relationship with nature."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: archaeoastronomy; faithandphilosophy; malthusian; megaliths; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 10/02/2010 2:10:16 PM PDT by TaraP
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(MORE OF A DEMONIC CULTURE)

The move gives an old practice new validity, said Phil Ryder, the chairman of the 350-member Druid Network.

“It will go a long way to make Druidry a lot more accessible,” he said.

Druids have practiced for thousands of years in Britain and in Celtic societies elsewhere in Europe. They worship natural forces such as thunder and the sun, and spirits they believe arise from places such as mountains and rivers. They do not worship a single god or creator, but seek to cultivate a sacred relationship with the natural world.

Although many see them as robed, mysterious people who gather every summer solstice at Stonehenge — which predates the Druids — believers say modern Druidry is chiefly concerned with helping practitioners connect with nature and themselves through rituals, dancing and singing at stone circles and other sites throughout the country believed to be “sacred.”

Ancient Druids were known to be religious leaders, judges and sages among the Celts during pre-Christian times, although little evidence about their lives survived. There are now various Druid orders and about 10,000 practitioners in Britain — and believers said the numbers are growing because more people are becoming aware of the importance to preserve the environment.

The Druid Network fought for nearly five years to be recognized under the semi-governmental Charity Commission, which requires proof of cohesive and serious belief in a supreme entity and a moral framework.

After initially rejecting the Druid Network’s application, the Charity Commission decided this week that Druidry fit the bill.

“There is sufficient belief in a supreme being or entity to constitute a religion for the purposes of charity law,” the commission said.


2 posted on 10/02/2010 2:11:11 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: TaraP

Might as well do it now while the whole planet is going through an insanity phase.


3 posted on 10/02/2010 2:11:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help stamp out political correctness.)
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To: TaraP

Then I think they should add “Jedi” to the list as well.


4 posted on 10/02/2010 2:12:36 PM PDT by Taggart_D
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To: TaraP
Are they going to sacrifice their leaders, so they can read the future in their entrails while they writhe around?

Britain could be dredging up something more violent than Islam to prepare for the coming strggle...

5 posted on 10/02/2010 2:15:08 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Taggart_D

Then I think they should add jedi to the list as well.

lol


6 posted on 10/02/2010 2:15:40 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: TaraP

If you look at religion, music, theatre and art, you would think the world is moving backwards culturally.

It’s sort of amazing to see.


7 posted on 10/02/2010 2:16:27 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: TaraP

Gonna bring back the human scacrifice, too?


8 posted on 10/02/2010 2:17:42 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Taggart_D

Not without Sith they don’t.


9 posted on 10/02/2010 2:18:52 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: TaraP

Do you all think Hinduism and Shinto are “demonic” as well, or is that honor reserved only for old European polytheistic religions?


10 posted on 10/02/2010 2:18:52 PM PDT by Julia H. (This tagline for rent--only $999.99 a month!)
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To: TaraP

“Paging the XXth Legion! Paging the XXth Legion! Please report back to the Isle of Anglesley. Unfinished business!”.


11 posted on 10/02/2010 2:21:01 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Julia H.

I am speaking of Paganistic Religions and Practices...


12 posted on 10/02/2010 2:21:04 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: TaraP

-and believers said that the numbers are growing because more people are becoming aware of the importance to preserve the environment.

Christianity, if you actually bothered looking deep enough into it, also advocates a need to preserve the environment, but for the fact that it is made to benefit mankind. God created the Earth and the natural resources in it for our benefit. Greed, Lust, Gluttony, Sloth, Pride, Envy, and Wrath all hurt people, and are behind just about every abuse of that which God created for us.


13 posted on 10/02/2010 2:26:45 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: PzLdr

Gonna bring back the human sacrifice too?

Would you consider unregulated abortion to be a form of human sacrifice, in possibly the majority of cases performed?


14 posted on 10/02/2010 2:30:32 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: PzLdr

Gonna bring back the human sacrifice too?

Would you consider unregulated abortion to be a form of human sacrifice, in possibly the majority of cases performed?


15 posted on 10/02/2010 2:30:39 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: TaraP

Another fine sign of how the UK is leading the West into the Abyss of Destruction!


16 posted on 10/02/2010 2:31:35 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Morpheus2009

Sacrificed to the god of convenience, yes. Before a public holocaust takes place, the private, unseen one has to take place first in the womb.


17 posted on 10/02/2010 2:34:05 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Morpheus2009

Not sure what you mean, but as a *Christian* I realize what is happening to the world as GOD’s grace will become GOD’s Wrath which will lead to a enviromnent for one rich in all resources to bloom again....


18 posted on 10/02/2010 2:35:31 PM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: TaraP
A Druish princess


19 posted on 10/02/2010 2:41:15 PM PDT by JRios1968 (What is the difference between 0bama and his dog, Bo? Bo has papers.)
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To: TaraP

You just explained it better.


20 posted on 10/02/2010 2:45:03 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: MrEdd

Are they going to sacrifice their leaders, so they can read the future in their entrails while they writhe around?

No. They’ll save that for the peasants.


21 posted on 10/02/2010 2:48:11 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: TaraP
When are they going to recognize Islam as a political party?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

22 posted on 10/02/2010 2:49:02 PM PDT by The Comedian ("Progressive" is a code word for "Pending nitrogen cycle contributor")
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To: TaraP

I was an Elfin Druid when I was 12, I got better.


23 posted on 10/02/2010 2:50:49 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Taggart_D

They already have...


24 posted on 10/02/2010 2:59:15 PM PDT by Darth Tokarev (Liberalism: Using intellectualism to justify moral cowardice.)
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To: TaraP

Wait, wait, wait!

The article is totally erroneous. These modern Druids are a rather recent invention, and they are not descendants of the original Druids. The historical Druids themselves have nothing to do with Stonehenge, which is thousands of years older still.

Modern Druidism is a synthetic religion having nothing by name and a few superficial similarities with the original Druids.


25 posted on 10/02/2010 3:04:38 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: TaraP
Lady's, if they start sacrificing virgins, I volunteer to be your savior.

It's a tough job, but some body’s got to do it.

26 posted on 10/02/2010 3:52:00 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: TaraP

Link to Wicca at the US Air Force Academy. Some pagans got upset when a cross was placed at their site.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2444756/posts


27 posted on 10/02/2010 3:55:28 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Ronaldus Magnus – The last American President)
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To: TaraP

Complete humbug. Not just their doctrine, which goes without saying, but the claim that today’s “Druids” have anything more to do with the Druids of ancient times than both being located in the British Isles. Neo-Druidism is as much a modern made-up religion as L. Ron Hubbard’s Scientology.

Other than Roman descriptions, which are almost certainly unreliable (either that or the ancient Druids really practiced human sacrifice), we know nothing about the praxis of ancient Druidism, and nothing at all about its doctrine.


28 posted on 10/02/2010 5:39:57 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: TaraP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dogfT30fKHU


29 posted on 10/02/2010 6:50:34 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: TaraP
From the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth II, Westminster Abbey, June 2nd 1953:

'.... Seated again on the Chair of Estate, Elizabeth then took the coronation Oath as administered by the Archbishop of Canterbury. In the lengthy oath, the Queen swore to govern each of her countries according to their respective laws and customs, to mete out law and justice with mercy, to uphold Protestantism in the United Kingdom and protect the Church of England and preserve its bishops and clergy. She proceeded to the altar where she stated "The things which I have here promised, I will perform, and keep. So help me God," before kissing the Bible and putting the royal sign-manual to the oath as the Bible was returned to the Dean of Westminster....'

30 posted on 10/02/2010 6:53:42 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: docbnj

You answered the question that immediately popped into my mind - i.e. how much (if anything) do these guys have to do with the original Druids?

Thanks!


31 posted on 10/02/2010 7:12:46 PM PDT by DemforBush (You might think that, *I* could not possibly comment.)
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To: TaraP
Druids had human sacrifice at the heart of their religion.

Do these guys practice human sacrifice?

If yes they should be locked up for murder.

If no then they are just a bunch of posers and people should feel free to point and snicker.

32 posted on 10/02/2010 7:18:40 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The Doctrine of Nachofication: The belief that everything tastes better with melted cheese.)
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To: The_Reader_David
the ancient Druids really practiced human sacrifice

They did.

So did the Romans for that matter.

33 posted on 10/02/2010 7:20:51 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The Doctrine of Nachofication: The belief that everything tastes better with melted cheese.)
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To: TaraP

You actually think the ancient Druids and their modern hippy-trippy descendants are ‘demonic’?.

Good grief.


34 posted on 10/03/2010 2:52:07 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: FlingWingFlyer; I still care

Firstly, druidism has a long place in British history which long predates Christianity. So we have every right ro recognise it. Or are we only supposed to celebrate Christianity?.

Secondly, this version is basically a hippy trippy version, a harmless modern bit of new age. About as evil and demonic as worry stones and crystals.


35 posted on 10/03/2010 2:55:18 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Oh grow up.

Druidism has a long history in Britain, and it long predates Christianity. So why shouldnt we recognise it?. And this version is a harmless new age version, middle aged hippies with crystals and white shawls.

You honestly think this is a sign of cultural destruction?.

Good grief.

If we in the UK horrify you so much, kindly dont come over. Frankly, the last thing we need is silly and hysterical Yanks like you.


36 posted on 10/03/2010 2:58:56 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

Go look at the history of paganism and how it treats people.


37 posted on 10/03/2010 4:39:15 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: the scotsman

London has the highest crime rate in the world. Why would I want to go there and subject myself to that?


38 posted on 10/03/2010 4:40:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The Old Testament is a brutal tract, where God kills, forces a father to sacrifice his son, and says that anyone eating shellfish must be killed. Does that make all of Christianity or all Christians brutal and vicious?. Of course not.

Yes, ancient paganism was brutal. So was life then. All religions and cultures then were to our modern eyes brutal and vicious.

You cannot compare then to the new age religions now, which are nothing but rather silly hippies and their ‘dreamcatchers’, worry stones and blue healing crystals. The Druids in Britain 2010 are a bunch of aging hippies who live perfectly normal suburban lives.

Are you seriously suggesting that only pagan religions were and are brutal?. I find it frightening that in 2010 that people can get so hysterical about the ‘evils’ of paganism.
The worst thing about new age paganism/new age-ism is its banality.

Bet youre one of the people who thinks Harry Potter is demonic......


39 posted on 10/03/2010 5:26:59 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: Jack Hydrazine

We already discussed this on a previous thread, a thread where you strangely failed to respond to my post explaining the various British crime rates. So Ill do it again...

1—The UK dosent have a general crime rate. There are seperate crime rates for England/Wales, Scotland and NI.

2—The crime rate is higher per capita because Britain overall has TWENTY EIGHT crimes that come under violent crime on the statute books. Much more than America.

3—America’s murder rate is much higher than ours. Your gun death and gun murder rates are skyhigh compared to ours. You have 75% of the world’s serial killers roaming your streets.

AND YOU ARE SCARED TO COME HERE?......

Enjoy your ‘safe’ America.


40 posted on 10/03/2010 5:30:23 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

I didn’t say anything about not recognizing it.

I’m a devout Christian, but I’m not big on “demonic” worries. I actually do read Harry Potter and such (and consider it a strongly Christian book, actually). The moralities and plots exhibit strong Christian morality. If the setting was different, Christians would be lauding it.

My thought is (and I admit, I have a strong bias) is that Christianity is such a superior religion. It is based on so many superior philosophies, and so many great thinkers of the world came out of it. I know it is not PC to say that nowadays, but IMHO this is so.

It is a remarkable faith that leads to logical thinking when rightly devined. Even PBS had a special here that called Calvinism the Father of American Democracy. Worshipping natural forces is something we have been called out of - as the Bible says, “worshipping the creature rather than the creator” is a step backwards.

I listen to the music nowadays, look at the art, look at the theatre, and I see pure self indulgance and mediocre. I would be ashamed to have Bach hear our music. Heck, I would be ashamed to have Cole Porter hear our music.

I see advances in science, but not much else. Culturally we have moved backwards.


41 posted on 10/03/2010 6:30:26 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: TaraP

To those that understand this:
“Awen”!


42 posted on 10/03/2010 6:52:36 AM PDT by Prussianone
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To: the scotsman

And those 1960s and later hippies and pagans took your guns away from you which has caused the violent crime rate in the UK (including Wales, Scotland, et al) to soar to unprecedented heights. Leftists, whether pagans or hippies, are doing their part to turn your country into a third world hellhole! I hope you are enjoying bending over and taking it because that is all a subject can do.


43 posted on 10/03/2010 7:55:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: the scotsman

Do you go into the Islamic zones where the bobbies don’t tread while eating a plate of chops and gravy?

I feel safer going to Israel than I do the UK!


44 posted on 10/03/2010 7:57:19 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Firstly, Britain is not a third world hellhole. Can you actually speak in anything other than hysteria?.

Secondly, Britons are not subjects and have not been since the Nationality Act of 1981. Of course as someone with such a laughable idea of what Britain is, you wouldnt know that.

Bet you think we all know the Queen and have posh voices.


45 posted on 10/03/2010 9:01:20 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: Jack Hydrazine

And yet we are still a safer country to live in than America.

Oh the irony.


46 posted on 10/03/2010 9:02:18 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Oh dear, ‘Islamic zones’.

Honestly mate, prise yourself away from hysterical headlines and actually visit Britain and you will see that for all our troubles, we are a million miles from the mass violence, mass Muslim state you and too many Americans seem to think we now are.

And to say that we are less safe than Israel is just drivel. There has been no major Irish terrorism on the British mainland for several years, and bar July 7th 2005 and the attack on Glasgow Airport, Britain has stopped any Islamic terrorism. Israel on the other hand is rife with terrorist violence and unrest. And if you think Britain’s crime rate is so bad that you feel unsafe, then that just proves that you are taking your cue on Britain from misleading and hysterical headlines.

Honestly mate, your hysteria on pagans and Britain is actually embarrassing.


47 posted on 10/03/2010 9:08:01 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: TaraP

Will they be allowed to practice the cannibalism and the human sacrificial rites of their predecessors?


48 posted on 10/03/2010 10:49:18 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: the scotsman

So, do you think that the large numbers native UKers that are fleeing the UK for Canada, Australia, and the USA are hysterical, too?


49 posted on 10/03/2010 11:42:29 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Do we have problems?. Yes.

Do we have serious problems?. Yes.

Are we a hellhole circling the drain?. No.

And btw, the obvious point you missed is that those are BRITONS leaving the country. They know what is right and what is wrong with Britain 2010, much more than an American who gets his ideas on the UK from FreeRepublic headlines.

And I also dare say that many of those who left are sad that they did so. Still patriots, but who felt that life for their families was at the time better in other countries.

And as Britain gets better, who knows, many may come back.

Remember, Britain was in the doldrums in 1979 and people fled. I think youll agree that from 1979, and a certain lady, Britain went from being a near joke to a powerful dynamic nation that won wars and led the world.


50 posted on 10/03/2010 11:48:49 AM PDT by the scotsman
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