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Obama agency busts plan to sell rifles to Americans
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Posted on 10/13/2010 7:14:45 AM PDT by keep your powder dry

Feds call popular gun a 'threat,' proposed shipments canceled

The Obama-run Washington bureaucracy has classified a common and reliable rifle, the M1 Garand, as a "threat to public safety in the U.S.," and the State Department has canceled plans by the Republic of Korea to return tens of thousands of surplus rifles to the U.S. for sale in the consumer market.

The stunning classification of an ordinary gun that was used in the U.S. military for two decades and issued to thousands of soldiers and Marines during World War II and Korea as a threat came in a document by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

It is being publicized by Examiner gun rights writer David Codrea, who said the federal agency appeared alarmed that there would be "no more controls [over imported Garands] than any other firearm."

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"If I read this right, what they're saying is, every gun poses a threat to public safety in the U.S.," he wrote. "This is the same rationale used in model-specific 'assault weapons' bans – the type of gun is somehow deemed relevant, even though untold numbers of such firearms are already peaceably owned in this country, and even though no supporting evidence for this conclusion exists beyond agenda-promoting speculation."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; democrats; obama; obamanation; rights; wheresthenra

1 posted on 10/13/2010 7:14:51 AM PDT by keep your powder dry
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To: keep your powder dry

They’ve got to prevent the emergence of the “Garand gangs.”


2 posted on 10/13/2010 7:19:58 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (/s, in case you need to ask)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Tell the Koreans to hold the phone; we’re getting this clear up.


3 posted on 10/13/2010 7:21:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: keep your powder dry

Apparently the document in question was written by Theresa Figuretta (sorry for the mispelling). She is Chief Counsels Office.

What I find particularly disturbing about the document is that it’s very racially biased and reeks of Jim Crow mind set.

There is a lot more detailed information here...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1100559

The author of that tripe needs to be forced out of her job. She’s definitely using her position to forward her racist and anti-gun agenda.


4 posted on 10/13/2010 7:22:24 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: keep your powder dry

EVERY gun does indeed pose a “public safety” problem...

if you define “public safety” as “the ability to impose our will on the populace without them having any means by which to resist”.


5 posted on 10/13/2010 7:22:27 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: keep your powder dry

I certainly do not want to be a “ threat to public safety” by buying a M1. I’ll just save a little more money and buy an AR-10.


6 posted on 10/13/2010 7:24:47 AM PDT by MCF
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To: keep your powder dry

You could get these through the civilian marksmanship program for years now.

www.odcmp.com

I wonder how long it’ll take for them to get shut down.


7 posted on 10/13/2010 7:25:15 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: keep your powder dry

first Obama admits to an interviewer that there IS no such thing as a shovel-ready project, and now they wade back into gun control with this. Could they possibly stumble or fumble any more leading into an election?


8 posted on 10/13/2010 7:25:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: keep your powder dry

The M1 does have a reputation of being key in the taking down of tyrannical governments.


9 posted on 10/13/2010 7:26:22 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: keep your powder dry

Just more reason why no 2nd Amendment supporter should ever vote for Joe Manchin or any Democrat


10 posted on 10/13/2010 7:26:22 AM PDT by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confuscius.)
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To: keep your powder dry

We all know what the Obamites are truly afraid of: the people. They ought to be.


11 posted on 10/13/2010 7:27:47 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: dennisw

Just more reason why no 2nd Amendment supporter should ever vote for Joe Manchin or any Democrat

...or give credence to an NRA rating associated with any democrat. The fact you profess support of the second amendment as a democrat, dumping the rest of the Constitution in the process, should give the clueless NRA all the information they need to make an informed decision. Something they seem unable to do, as they rate, and in some cases endorse democrat candidates and incumbents.


12 posted on 10/13/2010 7:36:52 AM PDT by wita
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To: andy58-in-nh
"...We all know what the Obamites are truly afraid of: the people. They ought to be..."

Geez! That sounds like a veiled threat.

Sure sounds nice!

13 posted on 10/13/2010 7:37:55 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: dennisw

Fox News had Manchin on a couple of times recently; and, as part of the segment, they showed 1 of his commercials in which he was holding a gun (don’t recall if it was a rifle or shotgun) and speaking. I was wondering if that wasn’t just for ‘show’. IIRC the ad also had the NRA logo/emblem on it.


14 posted on 10/13/2010 7:38:19 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: keep your powder dry

Gee, I wonder if the NRA will endorse another handful of Dim candidates. Sheesh!


15 posted on 10/13/2010 7:39:17 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: keep your powder dry
Did Clint Eastwood start another gun craze?


16 posted on 10/13/2010 7:41:59 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: skimbell

Nothing veiled about it. Our liberties are not theirs for the taking, nor have they ever been. Obama and his Ruling Class crowd hold a view of government that is fundamentally incompatible with that upon which the nation was founded, and one that is still shared by a majority of its citizens. Both sides cannot triumph.


17 posted on 10/13/2010 7:43:05 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: dennisw
You said the magic word ...

Folks, West Virginia has an actual conservative running for Senate. Please support John Raese.

18 posted on 10/13/2010 7:43:10 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BCR #226

“She’s definitely using her position to forward her racist and anti-gun agenda.”

Hoplophobes should not be in policy positions, or at least without a non-hoplophobe riding shotgun.

Anyone with a serious phobia should not be in a decision-making position when decisions involving that phobia are involved. The ADA should be invoked to provide reasonable accommodations.

Like an arachnophobe being in charge of a black-widow farm (to get silk for reticles).


19 posted on 10/13/2010 7:45:37 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: keep your powder dry

Why does this have to be a federal issue at all?

Why can’t one of the states (New Hampshire comes to mind) offer to buy up the rifles from Korea, if they could afford it? This is hardly an “arms control” issue at the national level.

I’m sure New Hampshire Fish & Game, or whomever, would be immediately swamped with offers to purchase, and they could probably turn a profit, to boot!


20 posted on 10/13/2010 7:49:04 AM PDT by DNME (With the sound of distant drums ... something wicked this way comes.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

“In my opinion, the M1 rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised”
- General George S. Patton, Jr.


21 posted on 10/13/2010 7:53:58 AM PDT by keep your powder dry (With your pike upon your shoulder, at the rising of the moon!)
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To: keep your powder dry

Getcha one here:

http://www.odcmp.com/


22 posted on 10/13/2010 8:06:14 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: keep your powder dry
...the State Department has canceled plans by the Republic of Korea to return tens of thousands of surplus rifles to the U.S. for sale in the consumer market.

Source of actual cancellation?

...permission had been granted for the rifles to be shipped to the U.S., then it was rescinded.

By whom? When? WND is not my most trusted source for hard news. It is official? Does the ROK know about this?

23 posted on 10/13/2010 8:16:41 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: keep your powder dry

Doctors, automobiles, liberal judges, liberal politicians are all threats to public safety. Should they all be banned?

Well, at least the liberals should remain in the banned category.


24 posted on 10/13/2010 8:19:24 AM PDT by saltshaker
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To: andy58-in-nh
Nothing veiled about it. Our liberties are not theirs for the taking, nor have they ever been. Obama and his Ruling Class crowd hold a view of government that is fundamentally incompatible with that upon which the nation was founded, and one that is still shared by a majority of its citizens. Both sides cannot triumph.

Bears repeating

25 posted on 10/13/2010 8:21:03 AM PDT by 1forall (America - my home, my land, my country.)
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To: 1forall; andy58-in-nh

The ruling class seeks control
We the People insist on liberty

the two concepts are incompatible


26 posted on 10/13/2010 8:22:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Jeez - you’d think they would at least make the barrel a little more realistic.


27 posted on 10/13/2010 9:24:45 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Life is hardly more than a fraction of a second. Such a little time to prepare oneself for eternity!)
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To: keep your powder dry

I have been around a few, but maybe I am ignorant...

What exactly makes an M1 Garand more “dangerous” to public safety than, say... A browning BAR in any modern caliber, or a Ruger Mini-14/Mini 30, or a Remington 7400? The name? The fact that they came from a military depot?

Kind of like the old - add a pistol grip or a accessory rail to a rifle and suddenly make it a banned assault weapon...

This isn’t about public safety, it is about power and keeping it out of the hands of citizens.


28 posted on 10/13/2010 9:28:39 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: keep your powder dry

Guns, guns, who needs ‘em. Got Machete’????

Pretty soon we’ll just behead each other like Mexico does.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2010/10/dozens-of-americans-being-murdered-in.html


29 posted on 10/13/2010 9:35:15 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: TexasRedeye
...the State Department has canceled plans by the Republic of Korea to return tens of thousands of surplus rifles to the U.S. for sale in the consumer market. Source of actual cancellation?

...permission had been granted for the rifles to be shipped to the U.S., then it was rescinded.

By whom? When? WND is not my most trusted source for hard news. It is official? Does the ROK know about this?

We don't know. FOIA requests are being prepared for both ATF and DoS to obtain this info.

30 posted on 10/13/2010 10:01:09 AM PDT by gieriscm (07 FFL / C2 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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To: keep your powder dry

Yup that NRA has really done a great job!!!!!


31 posted on 10/13/2010 10:04:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

That’s the kind of picture that chills a criminals bones, a grey haired man who obviously is comfortable with the weapon. Not too many years to live left and the determination to live by his principles.


32 posted on 10/13/2010 10:15:10 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: dennisw
"Just more reason why no 2nd Amendment supporter should ever vote for Joe Manchin or any Democrat"
33 posted on 10/13/2010 10:16:01 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: keep your powder dry

There was a reason why guns and ammo flew off the shelves when Obeyme was elected.


34 posted on 10/13/2010 10:21:36 AM PDT by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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To: TheBattman

“What exactly makes an M1 Garand more “dangerous” to public safety than, say... A browning BAR in any modern caliber, or a Ruger Mini-14/Mini 30, or a Remington 7400? The name? The fact that they came from a military depot?”

Evidence indicates that the M1 Garand is a proven killer of communists. Therefore, the communists don’t want them back in the country.


35 posted on 10/13/2010 12:50:38 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: gieriscm

“...the State Department has canceled plans by the Republic of Korea to return tens of thousands of surplus rifles to the U.S. for sale in the consumer market. Source of actual cancellation?

...permission had been granted for the rifles to be shipped to the U.S., then it was rescinded.

By whom? When? WND is not my most trusted source for hard news. It is official? Does the ROK know about this?

We don’t know. FOIA requests are being prepared for both ATF and DoS to obtain this info.”

There is also now a pending bill before Congress to reverse the State Dept. decision. Co-sponsored by Duncan D. Hunter, among others.


36 posted on 10/13/2010 2:28:07 PM PDT by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

What’s wrong with the barrel?

Looks pretty much like mine.

Front sight’s perhaps “not quite right”, but that could be the lighting.


37 posted on 10/13/2010 5:43:11 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

There is no bore - just a shallow depression where there should be a hole.


38 posted on 10/14/2010 2:38:36 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Life is hardly more than a fraction of a second. Such a little time to prepare oneself for eternity!)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Possibly ... could be the lighting, though.

Did notice there’s definitely a “sling loop” or whatever those things are called where there should be a stacking-swivel.


39 posted on 10/14/2010 3:32:54 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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