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Activist stomped outside Paul-Conway debate (Suspected terrorist tries to approach Rand Paul)
washington post ^ | 10/26/2010 | Washington Post

Posted on 10/26/2010 4:02:32 AM PDT by tobyhill

The Louisville Courier-Journal reports that a female MoveOn.org supporter was attacked by backers of Kentucky GOP Senate candidate Rand Paul on Monday when she attempted to approach Paul outside his final debate with Democrat Jack Conway in Lexington.

At one point, violence broke out when Lauren Valle of MoveOn.org approached Paul and tried to give him an "employee of the month award" from Republicorp. Republicorp is a fake business MoveOn created to symbolize what it says is the merger of the GOP and business interests controlling political speech. Television video shows Valle, of Washington, D.C., being pushed to the ground and at least one foot stepping down on her head.

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To: tobyhill
She was in disguise and attempted to approach Rand Paul.

I saw the video this morning and there's no justification for stomping her head down with your boots. Makes you guys look like Obama’s goons. What if she was a Tea Partyier with a costume and a sign. Wouldn't you be outraged?

51 posted on 10/26/2010 5:58:34 AM PDT by McGruff (A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs)
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To: longjack

I dont have a problem with this...

I dont F’ing care if the leftists do...

Honestly, Im game for putting any leftist POS who even thinks about acting stupid in the GD hospital.

It is NOT our fault it had to come to this. but it HAS come to this and its our duty to MAKE them understand that its in their best interests to go the F away. We have always been able to put these people down but have shied away from it because we know that once we start to cross that bridge we have to go all the way. We gave up A LOT to avoid this from happening but the F’ers just kept on pushing... Now they have pushed us onto that bridge and we ARE going to cross it. Enough is enough...

Act like a F’ing IDIOT at your own peril.


52 posted on 10/26/2010 6:10:46 AM PDT by myself6
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To: Connservative
Are you seriously condoning the assault of an unarmed woman?

Huh? Where did I say I condoned it? I commented on what happens when --- oh, never mind.

53 posted on 10/26/2010 6:11:15 AM PDT by BullDog108 ("There is no way to refudiate her strategery, so they misunderestimate her.")
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To: longjack
And immediately afterwords the ADN paper was making snide comments on why did Miller feel the need for bodyguards. The bottom line is this, when beliefs are morally sound and actions are driven with a true heart and soul it doesn't matter how protective a person can be. The derangement is real, the dangers are real, the weapons can be anything, its a wise decision to be reactive and I am not upset at all if and when I see an incident like this, that women could have been very well concealing an explosive device, or a chemical bomb.
54 posted on 10/26/2010 6:11:23 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: wtc911
This woman was assaulted, thrown to the ground and held there while some thug stepped on her head.

Nonsense. The guy stepped on her shoulder, apparently to restrain her, then she squirmed around and ended up with his foot on her head. He immediately moved it back to her shoulder.

55 posted on 10/26/2010 6:13:54 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: McGruff
"What if she was a Tea Partyier with a costume and a sign. Wouldn't you be outraged?"

But she wasn't, now was she...

BTW did anyone ever go to jail when those union thugs beat that poor guy almost to death for daring to protest clinton?

What about when they beat up that fellow selling his stuff outside a town hall meeting?

What about ANY M'er F'ing time these marxist bastards beat up, intimidated, etc the random conservative? heh....

F'em...

56 posted on 10/26/2010 6:18:05 AM PDT by myself6
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To: tobyhill

i think the whole thing was staged by moveon.


57 posted on 10/26/2010 6:20:57 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said)
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To: wtc911
I'd have shot the b**** and been done with it.

L

58 posted on 10/26/2010 6:23:12 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: nina0113

That’s what I saw. There was no effort to hurt her.


59 posted on 10/26/2010 6:31:20 AM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: wtc911
Your interpretation was that his foot was on her lower back and it slipped. You have changed your interpretation quite a bit since now you call it a shove.

Not really. I saw him shoving her to the ground with his foot to stop her from trying to get back up.

60 posted on 10/26/2010 6:34:29 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: wtc911
Just saw the video on Fox. People will go to jail. This woman was assaulted, thrown to the ground and held there while some thug stepped on her head.

If these assholes were SEIU thugs we'd be calling for a war. The truth is they were Paul supporters .


How do we know they weren't SEIU thugs pretending to be Rand Paul supporters?

I saw the video as well, and what I saw was not the behavior of typical Republicans. My first thought was those guys were plants by the left to give the MSM a nice photo op to frame Republicans as thugs.
61 posted on 10/26/2010 6:41:45 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: ILS21R
Of course it was, and the follow up actions is to flood the internet with trolling responses that its a sign of extremism. The next time it happens the person may have deadly intent, but because people read "concerned" posters on the internet they instead chose to freeze. And there will be a different sort of story in the news, now it will become injuries and or death. Take a stand and stand firm I say.
62 posted on 10/26/2010 6:47:27 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: af_vet_rr
I saw the video as well, and what I saw was not the behavior of typical Republicans.

It ought to be. Remember when the Code Pink chick rushed Condoleeza Rice with her fake-blood hands, and we all said, why didn't somebody down her? This woman apparently tried to rush the candidate (no video of that, just verbal reports), and she got downed, JUST AS SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN. If she'd been beaten, she wouldn't have been up giving an interview without a mark on her just a few minutes later.

63 posted on 10/26/2010 7:00:52 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Lurker
I'd have shot the b**** and been done with it.

____________________________

No you wouldn't have.

64 posted on 10/26/2010 7:22:29 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: af_vet_rr

Maybe they’re really aliens or cyborgs.


65 posted on 10/26/2010 7:23:34 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
Now wtc911... I made absolutely no personal or derogatory remarks about you... I just disagree with you on this article. Why is it so usual for me to get something wrong? In tens of thousands of posts that I have made, there are literally only a handful of posts where I made a mistake... and I corrected those mistakes and apologized if needed. Can't we debate this without slipping into personal attacks? Expect none from me.

rachael corey is another one of these leftists that got what she deserved. This woman would have been flogged 200 years ago. America has grown soft... dims and al qaeda have taken notice. Some of us are not so soft... and you will need all of us one day. Mark my words.

LLS

66 posted on 10/26/2010 7:28:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: nina0113

Is it too much to ask the identity of the man in the hat that put her to the ground?

Then I want the identity of the man with the foot on her back.

These people need to be prosecuted for assault. This cannot be tolerated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4bpgnkNN7Q

Don’t be so quick to assume it was Rand Paul people.


67 posted on 10/26/2010 7:29:20 AM PDT by jamz
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To: tobyhill

Paul needs to get out in front of this, denounce it and explain why his beliefs don’t condone this behavior. He can mention she was with Moveon.org but then say that the act of stepping on people is reprehensible.


68 posted on 10/26/2010 7:29:32 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: jamz
These people need to be prosecuted for assault.

Right after she's charged with assaulting the candidate.

This cannot be tolerated.

It should be ENCOURAGED.

69 posted on 10/26/2010 7:32:29 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: nina0113

I don’t see the connection.

Unless Rand was hit/assaulted by the woman...it didn’t warrant that response.

Look. I want Rand to win and he will smartly come out and denounce such stuff, but I want to be clear. Be pragmatic and come out and end this and find out everyone who’s involved. Transparency for all.


70 posted on 10/26/2010 7:34:58 AM PDT by jamz
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To: TheThinker
Bingo. He should also state that he understands that Moveon has demonstrated violence in the past and he would hope that Moveon would denounce such behavior.
71 posted on 10/26/2010 7:35:48 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: DCBryan1
I am going to give you the Post of the Day, award for your last two suggestions. You da man!

LLS

72 posted on 10/26/2010 7:35:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: tobyhill

I don’t recall Move.on stepping on people so I wouldn’t want to give them ammunition. If it was the SEIU, well, they were much more violent. However, this was just a random supporter and I’m sure Paul can illustrate this isn’t an official representative of his campaign.


73 posted on 10/26/2010 7:41:36 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: jamz

The part not on video tape is that she rushed through the crowd to the front where Rand was exiting his vehicle, someone then recognized that she was in disguise.

Based on current personal experience, I would have hoped someone in the crowd would have put her down and if the crowd hadn’t then I guarantee Rand Paul’s Security would have and it would have turned out a lot worse for her already ugly face.


74 posted on 10/26/2010 7:41:53 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Ah...I didn’t see that part.

WashPo sure didn’t waste anytime getting this on their page.


75 posted on 10/26/2010 7:43:34 AM PDT by jamz
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To: jamz

Running up to the candidate in disguise, while shouting and waving an unrecognizable object (is it a gun? a bottle of acid? who knows?) damn well DOES warrant that response, by anyone who happens to be around.

I have not seen video of that part (don’t think there is any) so am relying on the description of events. They didn’t beat her, they only restrained her. That video I *HAVE* seen. I have no problem at all with the way they handled it, and I’d have no problem with liberals who handled a conservative assaulter the same way. It wouldn’t even need to be a political candidate for me to find it appropriate for bystanders to step in to such a situation.


76 posted on 10/26/2010 7:44:44 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: jamz; tobyhill
Ah...I didn’t see that part.

Towards the beginning, you can see them pull a cheesy platinum-blonde wig off her. I might not have recognized it as such myself had I not been in a costume shop last night.

77 posted on 10/26/2010 7:46:37 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: TheThinker
No, they just rush stages with fake blood on their hands and besides she admitted she was fraudulently in disguise trying to present Rand Paul with a fake award. Prior to them tackling her, they couldn't have known she was from Moveon.
78 posted on 10/26/2010 7:47:02 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: jamz
Is it too much to ask the identity of the man in the hat that put her to the ground?

Then I want the identity of the man with the foot on her back.

... Don’t be so quick to assume it was Rand Paul people.


Thank you. I lack both broadband and cable to view this. The first question I had was how do we know this was a Paul supporter vs a complete set up to make Paul look bad?
79 posted on 10/26/2010 7:48:30 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: tobyhill

Thanks for describing the entire situation.


80 posted on 10/26/2010 7:50:19 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: All

If you go in to enemy territory next to people who are passionate enough to get out of their homes and attend a political meeting, regardless of party affiliation, expect to NOT get a warm welcome when you crash the scene.

This is not a political thing, it’s a social thing. If someone did this in a church, wedding, school, funeral, you can bet they will provoke some kind of reaction which was the woman’s intent.

If you are going to go to jail for assault, at least do it right. The woman seemed to walk away with little harm done and mission accomplished. The news is all about her and nothing about the candidate or meeting.

This will now encourage loons everywhere to try this. Next time, send her out in an ambulance and strike some fear in to the hearts and minds of potential interlopers. That would put a stop to such foolish behavior.


81 posted on 10/26/2010 7:50:25 AM PDT by texan75010
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To: texan75010

then we become no better than the purple-shirted thugs that beat up Kenneth Gladney.


82 posted on 10/26/2010 7:52:55 AM PDT by jamz
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To: tobyhill
I mean, who knows? As the election gets closer, and some of the more desperate (and unhinged) among the libs start freaking out, can the thought that the Republican/Conservative candidate that looks like they're gonna win needs to be stopped by assassination be far behind?

God forbid it comes to anything like that.

83 posted on 10/26/2010 8:02:08 AM PDT by hoagy62 (.)
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To: texan75010
The woman seemed to walk away with little harm done and mission accomplished.

It's too bad that it would be counterproductive for Paul to prefer assault charges against HER (though he's up by so much that it might be okay). I don't expect there'll be any filed against the men who restrained her.

84 posted on 10/26/2010 8:06:24 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: LibLieSlayer

Parts America may have grown soft but don’t assume that because I recognize the wrong in this guy stepping on the woman after she was down and under control puts me in that group.


85 posted on 10/26/2010 8:34:03 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: tobyhill
The part not on video tape is that she rushed through the crowd to the front where Rand was exiting his vehicle, someone then recognized that she was in disguise.

______________________________________________

Not for nothing, but were you there? Did you witness this? Because if you didn't and it's not on the tape then how do you know?

86 posted on 10/26/2010 8:36:32 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: longjack
As far as anybody knows, these MF's are potential assassins and should be dealt with as such.

We know better than to go up to one of their candidates or elected officials in a menacing manner and violate personal space, the left had better get a clue quick.

87 posted on 10/26/2010 8:41:18 AM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: wtc911

Fair enough... but remember your’s is just an opinion too... but a little less sympathy for the left’s foot soldiers would be nice. IMHO.

LLS


88 posted on 10/26/2010 8:47:34 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Again, don’t mistake my recognition of a wrong as sympathy for the victim. I never said I felt any. My only concern is that by, to me, clearly over-reacting this dope crossed the line and that will come back to bite us.


89 posted on 10/26/2010 8:57:13 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

Witnesses


90 posted on 10/26/2010 8:59:25 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
I've watched this video twice and I have yet to see anyone step on her head. One guy did have his hands up around her head for a moment, but the guy that had his foot on her shoulder did not place it on her head at anytime that I could tell.
91 posted on 10/26/2010 9:10:22 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (I know more about Christine O'Donnell than I do about Barack Obama.)
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To: tobyhill

Witnesses whom you know personally?


92 posted on 10/26/2010 9:10:59 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
Also, be aware that she admitted she was going to approach him, in disguise, to present him with an “award”.

I guarantee this situation will not hurt Rand Paul because the normal people of Kentucky understand this Moveon clown was there to stir up trouble and she got less than what she deserved.

93 posted on 10/26/2010 9:14:05 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: wtc911
Also, be aware that she admitted she was going to approach him, in disguise, to present him with an “award”.

I guarantee this situation will not hurt Rand Paul because the normal people of Kentucky understand this Moveon clown was there to stir up trouble and she got less than what she deserved.

94 posted on 10/26/2010 9:14:09 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

While I disagree that she got less than what she deserved, I hope that you are right about it not hurting Paul.


95 posted on 10/26/2010 9:17:09 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
“At one point, violence broke out when Lauren Valle of MoveOn.org approached Paul and tried to give him an “employee of the month award” from Republicorp. Republicorp is a fake business MoveOn created”

Please read. The ones taking her down would not have known previously of her intent but based on an educated guess, it wasn't to shower him with praises. Also note, she was in disguise. A person with good intentions don't usually find a need to wear a disguise.

96 posted on 10/26/2010 9:21:16 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: wtc911
It won't hurt Rand because word is already out with the Kentucky voters that this was an attempt at a cheap trick by Moveon and they got busted.
97 posted on 10/26/2010 9:24:05 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: wtc911

We will just agree to disagree... after being attacked by the left myself (Florida... Bush vs gore). I revel in the worm turning.

LLS


98 posted on 10/26/2010 9:39:13 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: tobyhill
Who would have thought some nutcase would shoot President Reagan to get a date with Jodie Foster?

Security, amateur or pro, gets justifiably active when someone 'rushes' a candidate or celebrity.

99 posted on 10/26/2010 10:49:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Hacklehead

Over at yahoo the howler lib monkeys are having a fit over this.
That joy will be short lived.


100 posted on 10/26/2010 10:51:14 AM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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