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1 posted on 10/26/2010 10:33:37 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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This is still too much information for Burn All Toddlers First.

They should be forced by law to hire only people who use Cyrillic alphabets for this duty.

2 posted on 10/26/2010 10:35:59 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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I don't know about anyone here, but I want gun records, purchased legally by law abiding citizens, to be about the hardest thing on this earth to trace. The 4473s we will out shouldn't be sent to ATF or any other government location.

The government needs to have a damned reason in the first place to want to trace a gun, not pour over thousands of records fishing for evidence. I WANT THEM IMPEDED AS MUCH AS CAN POSSIBLY BE.

3 posted on 10/26/2010 10:38:23 AM PDT by Gaffer
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The government is prohibited from putting gun ownership records into an easily accessible format, such as a searchable computer database.

Since when does the BATFEXYZLMNOP obey the law?

4 posted on 10/26/2010 10:39:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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Who needs domestic terrorist when we have the BATF???


5 posted on 10/26/2010 10:39:45 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (A check is worthless until you actually cash it......VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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The government is prohibited from putting gun ownership records into an easily accessible format, such as a searchable computer database.

ONOZ! Being a JBT is hawwwd wuuuuk! It's no harder than it was when they took the job; maybe they should consider honest employment where they make something and the wealth of the nation is increased by their labors.

6 posted on 10/26/2010 10:45:02 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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“Those who wonder what motivates American gun owners should understand that perhaps only one word in the English language so boils their blood as ‘registration,’ and that word is ‘confiscation,’ “

They are effectively the same thing.
Registration means you need the government's “Permission” to defend yourself.

If there were registration, Does anyone actually think that the government would “Allow” you keep a gun that you try to register if they decided you weren't entitled to have one?

A “Background check” (for a gun you already own) would most likely be an integral part of any registration scheme, so right for the get go it would be a way of paring down gun ownership in this country.

They could call it whatever they want, but would effectively be a mandatory system of you having to obtain permission to have the right of self defense.

7 posted on 10/26/2010 10:58:25 AM PDT by Voice of Reason88 (One man with a gun can control 100 without one-Vladimir Lenin (The Statist view on guns))
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perhaps only one word in the English language so boils their blood as 'registration,' and that word is 'confiscation,'

Probably because "registration" is usually created as a tool to more efficiently implement "confiscation."

Anybody who believes the information the government has on you will not be misused just needs to ask those natural-born American citizens of Japanese descent who were imprisoned in concentration camps during WWII without trial. They were rounded up using census records, which the government officially denied for decades.

8 posted on 10/26/2010 11:00:36 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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We want the BAFT to be limited to cheap lined paper pads and number 2 pencils only for all their record keeping. Starve the beast by restricting its budget and personnel.


10 posted on 10/26/2010 11:37:08 AM PDT by RicocheT
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The government needs to integrate the functions of of Commerce, EPA (Environment) and the ICC (Shipping) into the BATFE.

Then, their acronym would be accurately descriptive... '-)

12 posted on 10/26/2010 11:45:45 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!)
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If elected President, my first act would be to sign an executive order eliminating BATF and firing all of its employees. The Federal government has no Constitutional authority to regulate alcohol, tobacco or firearms. None. Turn regulation of these items back to the states, as our founders intended. And that’s just for starters.


13 posted on 10/26/2010 11:53:41 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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It is a simple fact that tracing a gun purchase rarely if ever solves a crime.
14 posted on 10/26/2010 11:55:46 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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It is a simple fact that tracing a gun purchase rarely if ever solves a crime.
15 posted on 10/26/2010 11:56:10 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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So who cares where the gun came from that was used in a crime? You caught the dude, so put him/her in prison. The only thing you should be doing is looking at reported stolen gun records in order to return the gun to it’s rightful owner (if it was stolen).


19 posted on 10/26/2010 12:22:31 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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"Those who wonder what motivates American gun owners should understand that perhaps only one word in the English language so boils their blood as 'registration,' and that word is 'confiscation,' " according to an NRA fact sheet.

No not according to any NRA sheet you two twits, Sari Horwitz and James V. Grimaldi. According to REALITY.

Chicago's draconian Handgun Laws started with the mere matter of 'simple registration'. A little form the size of an Index Card. Pretty soon that 'registration' was slooooowly altered to NO MORE Handgun registrations being allowed. It became a defacto Handgun Ban, just by the passage of time. Handgun owners moved out of that cesspool - like me and my bride did way back when - or they passed away. Eventually, BINGO - no more 'Legal' Handguns in Chicago.

And if you were 'Grandfathered in', but then forgot to renew that yearly registration on time, they got you. You could NOT renew then, even if only a day late. You had to get that gun out of the city, MOVE OUT and take the gun with you, or turn it in to the Police to be destroyed.

So James and Sari, take your gun registration database and shove it up your 'word processor' - sideways.

27 posted on 10/26/2010 1:14:24 PM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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I understand what was the obvious point of the article, but I still come away from it realizing that the feds have way too much information and control over the sale and ownership of guns.

If someone can’t be trusted with their 2A rights, send them to prison for life. The problem is the courts, not the gun manufacturers, dealers, or gunowners. Don’t encroach on my rights because the juduciary is too wimpy to permanently remove these lowlifes from our midst, and that includes juveniles.


29 posted on 10/26/2010 2:23:45 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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